2:01 PM BBT: Cameron talks with Izzy in the Comic room
Cameron tells her that things are hitting Reilly hard and he's trying to look out for her. No one knows where anyone is. Alliances fall. Everyone feels like they're behind.
They're a bunch of chaotic people up there. Reilly is losing her sh**.
Mecole tells them about her conversation with America outside
Hisam thinks America will be the first to jump ship when that side isn't able to provide what she needs. He spoke with Jared and Cory and Reilly is running the other side. So if they win HOH next week, that's who to target
Cirie says it has to be a backdoor, so maybe let Luke know and put him up as a pawn
Hisam says they can put up Jag and Blue as the pawns
Cirie agrees. Worst case scenario, Jag or Blue goes home
Mecole says best case scenario Jag
HIsam leaves
Mecole says she likes that idea better than Cory and Luke because they can say they're extending an olive branch by not putting them up
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Mecole talks more about her conversation with America
Cirie says she feels like the other side are trying to find out where she (Mecole) is. They have jobs
Cameron says he would rather be grouped with people he trusts where he wouldn't be seen as the saving grace, or like the father figure
Izzy says she likes him but she's not sure she knows how she can trust him
Cameron says he knows where he wants to be but he doesn't know what's going on from here. He's feeling pressured. The more he hangs around the more open they are talking with him.
Izzy says he feels like he's part of the conversation
Cameron says he does but he feels like there's more to it
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Izzy says for her she doesn't know if she can... she hasn't been planning on committing to people until next week's vote
Cameron says there's a lot riding on perceptions on what kind of player/person you want to be. That's what him and Red were talking about last night. Here's the kind of person he is. What kind of group is there for him. He just doesn't know
Izzy says the second part of her figuring out how to move forward. On her end, from the conversations she's having, his name isn't coming up as a target. She shares that with him hoping to build trust and wants to know if he's heard her name because she's also aware of how she's perceived
Cameron says not in a threatening manner. The conversations up there are more or less as Hisam is a wildcard, as in they don't know what he's doing. He's very perceptive and he has put things together, some of them extremely dead on. Some of them a bit paranoia driven. A lot of his sh** is dead on and that's what got them all... That's why he left last night and started hanging out with Red like what the hell is going on. They're talking weird to him now and he doesn't know why. He's heard Hisam more than anything, and it's because of that. She's cool. They're like Izzy's cool but it's understood that the people she's hung out with is because she likes and associates with them. Sitting at the table eating pizza with them was clear. They're so close. It's not the same with the others. They're all out for some weird thing. But it's easily seen where she stands, and who doesn't love Cirie and Felicia. So if she's lumped in with them her name doesn't bounce. She's with people everyone loves. She's just good people that is a fan of the show.
Izzy says she knows that that could be seen as threatening. She's not naive to that also
Cameron says the same way people look at Cory. Smart, understand the game, they're fans. The majority of the people in the house are like yeah they watch the show.
Izzy says she's heard that about her and Cory but America's a superfan and she's never heard her name
Cameron says he doesn't know why. ... As far as he can tell she's close with Blue. She's always in different places. It's not as if she's reaching out to try to discuss things, she's just always there when people are discussing things, and that's why her name isn't coming up.
2:37 PM BBT: Cirie talks with Felicia in the Comic room
Cirie talks about her conversation with Mecole and that America said she wants to talk game with her and Felicia. So if America doesn't come and talk game to them, it's just a spy mission
Felicia says America has talked game with her. Yesterday was the first time. She said she really liked her
Cirie says America told her that. She said she was gonna look out for her, she didn't say anything ...
Felicia says that's her game
Cirie says if that's her game why does she feel like she needs to talk game to them now? We'll see
Izzy and and then Cameron come into the room
Cameron leaves
Izzy tells Cirie and Felicia about he rconversation with Cameron
Izzy says he said he knows what it looks like, and he knows where he's clumped
Cirie says "same thing"
Izzy says he said he's very tight with Red, so she wants to talk with Red and clarify what they talked about by the pool, and he said he's tight with Bowie, which they know is a lie because Bowie said he comes up to her. She told him the perception is also she only sees him in the HOH room.
Cirie asks if she said that?
Izzy says yeah
Cirie says okay
Izzy says Cameron said first person who wins HOH, you usually hang in there, and he sees her as a little sister, and then he used his kid as leverage. He was like Frankly, she reminds him of Stevie.
Cirie says oh it's that serious. He's never going against her then
Izzy says Cameron said Reilly's freaking out and taking this hard. They've heard that. The other side is crumbling. So he said he doesn't know where he stands, and Red also doesn't know where he stands
Cirie says he said Red feels like... oh maybe that's what Red's telling him
Izzy says that's what they said they were talking about by the pool. So she said he has close relationships with these people are these the people he's going to work with in the game? Cut the sh**, and she said with that, why is he telling her all of this
Cirie says she's so proud of her
Izzy says she wanted to just cut the bullsh**
Cirie says that's right
Felicia says that's what she says, you have to just be direct
Izzy says he was also using cryptic things. She told him he asked her to talk to her, so who is he talking about? So he was like "I don't know, I feel like they", he's calling them the cool kids. He was like they got together but he doesn' treally think they know together, and last night at the kitchen table it seemed like you all really like each other.
Felicia says it's on like popcorn
Izzy says so she told him he thinks he has these close relationships and that's the foundation for something? Who is he trying to work with? Red or Reilly?
Cirie says oh my God. They should be the "stop beating around the bush bitches"
Izzy says she said however much of it is true, it's a lot of information. She asked why he's telling her this. He said he thinks she's very smart and she understands the game and she's good with everyone. Everyone loves her. She asked if he's trying to work with her. She said her view of this is that there are two elements to proving trust. The first is your vote, and she knows Reilly said she was lucky for this easy week, but we're not getting anything from this Thursday because it's gonna be unanimous. So she's not gonna learn anything from that. He kept interrupting her. The second element is she's gonna extend an olive branch to him. She has not heard anyone say his name as a target, can he say the same for her? What is he hearing about her? He was like thank you. He was like everyone thinks you're very smart and a superfan. He was like but frankly they like you. She doesn't buy any of it. She thinks they're talking about her. But he said he's heard them say Hisam's name constantly. They are scared and threatened by Hisam. He said he knows she hangs out with Cirie and Felicia and who doesn't love them, but Hisam, he doesn't know who he likes or who he's with.
2:52 PM BBT: Luke talks with Cory in the Have Not room
Cory says what he said up there is basically where he stands but he wants to know what he thinks.
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Cory tells Luke the people he feels most comfortable with are the people in here. The conversation they had up there with him is probably the longest he's talked to him. He and Jared also talk
2:56 PM BBT: Felicia and Red leave the Comic room. Izzy continues talking with Cirie about her conversation with Cameron
Izzy says she asked Cameron what he's thinking about doin gif he wins HOH next week. Cameron said he hadn't thought about it. She told him stop. They've all thought about it. She doesn't feel comfortable telling him what she thinks but they've all thought about it. Cameron said honestly he doesn't know. I thinks whoever wins HOH... It's gonna be a battle. They got interrupted a couple times. Then she said so he doesn't know what he would do. Is his plan basically to go with the side that wins HOH? He was like he's not saying that. They went into the storage room and she said to him "I really enjoyed that talk" and that she'd like to have another talk with him. She's not willing to think past next week. Same thing she said to Luke basically. Would he be interested to continue talking and figuring out a way to at least vote together next week, and then they can talk about something past that? He said absolutely and then shook her hand. She knows, she doesn't trust it
Cirie asks if she washed her hand. Just kidding. They have to find time to facilitate time between the two of them, Jared, and Cory
Izzy says he asked her why her and Cory aren't working together. She said she sees him spending a lot of time with Cory.
Cirie says she wonders how close him and Cory are. Is Cory telling him he's trying to get... or if Cory's telling him about Jared working with them
Izzy says Jared's name didn't come up though
Cirie says she knows but if Cory's telling him everything, he has to say about Jared, and he might tell Reilly and them, and Blue. But who cares though. He said Hisam's name, they have to tell Hisam ASAP. He knows that though. Blue basically told him "it's too early". Once someone tells her it's too early she's just walking away.
Izzy says it's complicated because she doesn't want to tell Red about that
Cirie says he's gonna tell Red. They have to make sure people in their seven feel good.
Izzy says Cameron pulled her to talk to her, did he know about that?
Red says yeah he did the same thing to him
Izzy asks what they talked about
Red says he was like he thinks he's on the outs with the cool kids. It seemed genuine. He told him he called out Reilly's alliance and he was like well that's news to him. He told him he included him in it. He said he wasn't part of an alliance. He was trying to develop something but when he went up there all they do is talk around him
Izzy says he said that exactly to her as well
Red says he loves the guy
Izzy says he was very transparent in saying how much he feels connected and close to him. He also mentioned Bowie. She doesn't know if they're really close, so that seemed sketch
Red says he really likes Bowie, there's the music connection for him. It's basically the exact same conversation they had then
Izzy says he was telling her that, he was also tellin gher he's close to Reilly. She thinks he was trying to hint at working with her but he wasn't really saying that. She asked if he was open to work with Red. And he said all he knows is he loves him and they don't really talk like that but he doesn't know. And she asked if he wants to work with Reilly and he said he doesn't know.
Red says they talked last night and he needs to d more work. He was like as much as he loves him a two person alliance isn't gonna get them anywhere, and he doesn't throw that word around loosely. And he said he feels like he needs to do some work tomorrow. He thinks Cameron is trustworthy. He was feeling him out. As much as he likes the guy there's always been that air of he hasn't been up there, is it (??) or...
Izzy says yeah, she wasn't giving him anything
Red says him either. It didn't seem disingenuine
Izzy says unlike the two of them she bonded with really quickly, she doesn't have that immediate click with Cameron. She can't read him so well. SO she was basically listening to words. He said they're throwing Hisam's name around upstairs as their target. She asked if they're talking about her.
Red says he said that he liked Hisam. Reilly sighed and looked off. It seemed like well dang.
CIrie says she was clear with Hisam. She told hi mteh too early talk for any of them to. So HIsam is probably aware she'd do that if his name was mentioned to her.
Red says last night he told Cameron just to be clear after this conversation he's not in an alliance with anyone (??), and he was like no
Izzy says this is consistent because he said it was something really quick and then it fell apart. She just left it at being like she said to him the only way to truly show... she said to him hwo can she trust him? This is the first conversation. It's a good conversation but, she siad his vote and giving information about whether or not they're hearing each others' names, that's currency, and that's how you build trust
Red says Jag is trying to get to a point to talk game but he dropped hi moff into the weeds hard
Izzy asks if the way he's talking game so odd right now
Red says he knows what it is, they're going to everybody and trying to get. He thinks they're looking at him as a prospect for what they have, and he 100% knows that
Izzy says she said to Cameron with him and her, she only wanted to be thinking about next week's vote, and then assessing. SO they shook hands, which she feels like means something to him
Red says they're country boys
Izzy says she said if they can continue this next Thursday and figure out a way to vote together, then they can talk
Red says Cameron said he loves his room. This is his chair because he's close to him and Bowie. Izzy's a super fan. He talked with high interest which at first made him wonder if it was fishy, but then it didn't come across as that as the conversation went on. He felt like he was truly on the outs of their
Izzy says they f***ed up
Red says they're young and they're emotional, and that's what they can count on. And that's why the professors are gonna take them to school
Izzy tells Red to take care of his gut because they have an HOH on Thursday and they need him. Whatever he has to do
Red says he approached later today too at certain times, but Jag has really been trying. He keeps taking him off into the weeds about their life instead of the game. He doesn't want to look somebody in the face and straight lie to them
Izzy says that's what they were talking about last night, each one of them have a role. That's not who he is, that's not what he does
Red says when it comes down to it he will not say he's in an alliance. He's not stupid
Izzy says she thinks what they're doing has worked so well. Because she was asking questions and he was giving her so much. She thinks she was fully in control of that conversation
Red says you can call him the professor of Mycology because he's about to keep them in the dark and feed them sh**
Red leaves
Cirie says if he had a conversation with Cameron last night, why are they just now finding out about it? That's the type of thing that makes people sketchy. The way Hisam came, the way Izzy did, why is that not happening? That's only a question. Because he knows that they're checking consistency. She's not impressed by them saying the same thing. She's been in here by herself with Red.
Izzy says last night when they talked, Red and Cameron had already had their conversation
Cirie says no the conversation when he went to the living room and never came back, he was outside with Cameron, and he came in and went to bed. She gets it, he couldn't have told them last night but she's seen him all day today. And they keep running to him with information, why do they only find out information from him after they tell him something? Especially with Cameron. She doesn't... at all. Maybe super paranoid
Izzy says she thinks they should continue to reiterate that you have to tell immediately. Or is that suspicious
Cirie says she doesn't want the tone to be like he's answering to somebody, but she though tit was understood that this is exactly what Hisam's saying. When was he gonna tell them this? He knew Cameron was gonna come to her, so he could've been waiting for Cameron to come to her so then he could say yeah they talked and he said the same thing. She doesn't know. Maybe it's her.
Izzy says she still thinks they're in a good position
Cory tries to assure Luke that if there is a big alliance, they're sure that he won't go after them, but he's on the outside of it. They haven't brought him into anything. He asks Luke if he thinks he's bullshitting him
Luke says no but when he talks to Reilly she always brings up his name. She told him to go talk to him. Whether there's an alliance (any size)... he's been offered olive branches
Cory says take the olive branch and then when they come back here, think about it. He doesn't have to lie to that person. But if someone's like "yo Luke I wanna work with you" and he's like "yeah I'll think about it" he feels like he would walk away from that like "what does that mean?". He doesn't have to be like "Yeah you me, we're going to the final two"
3:13 PM BBT: Izzy says a little part of her is like are they actually just this dumb?
Cirie says we've been wrong about a few things so possible. But she's skeptical. She's been wrong about a few things already so she doesn't know. Obviously she feels a certain type of way but she doesn't get a feeling of Cameron. And Cory as Cory is she doesn't get the same feeling she gets off Cameron.
Izzy says they have to talk with Cory
Cirie says she's nervous now because she doesn't know how much information Cory is giving to Cameron. They're gonna let him do the talking.
3:15 PM BBT: Cory continues his talk with Luke in the Have Not room
Cory says he feels like he's getting all the negatives without the positives. He's getting the negatives of being in the thing without getting the positives of being in the thing
When Reilly says come speak to him, she thinks she knows the two of them are tight. She knows he and her are tight. If it's just that four as a group protecting each other, he feels they're gonna win a lot of comps down the road.
3:22 PM BBT: Luke talks with Red in the storage room
He says he's trying to talk to everybody and get a rundown. He talked to some people and got his mind sorted
Red tells him wherever he is, he'd like to work with him. There will be definitive lines by next week.
Red names the people he thinks are in the other alliance, including Jared. The reason he knows that is because he's been back and forth with Cirie
Luke says at first with Jared, it sort of came off as fake
Red says Jared being like that and not approaching him is how he knows. They're not stable up there.
Luke says they're sloppy. A couple of them. He's in the workout, he's trying to talk to somebody and they're talking over him
Red says they'll watch people like sharks. They'll ask questions and the other will listen. A good strategy, like someone told him. Any time someone extends an olive branch, you accept it. On whatever side
Luke says but he just said don't jump the gun
Red says no don't jump the gun, but that doesn't mean don't accept, because if you don't, now you're no the outs. What you do with that and what kind of game you want to play is up to you. If someone approached him with an alliance and he didn't want to take it, it would be hard for him because that's the type of person he is. He's not gonna look anybody in the face and accept an alliance and be like "I've got you to the bitter end". He can't do that. You'll know he's doing it because it'll look weird.
Luke says the sh** he's seen has made him fiery.
Red says that's what he needs to check in the game. He's vocally emotional.
Luke says people react to that in very negative ways. He told people he's gonna be talking to people.
Red says keep it jovial. The way to prove which side you want to be on is your vote, and what information you take back to the other. That's the only currency they have in this game. If you want to prove your loyalties in whatever line he wants to be in. He's not trying to push him in one direction or the other. Right now everything's about to shift.
Luke says everybody was talking that too early sh**. He talked to Reilly and she said he hasn't been approaching her.
Red says he thinks Jag is the push in that group. The shotcaller
Luke asks what makes him think that
Red says demeanor. And the other ones look to him
Luke says he looks like a pawn. What makes him think he's the shotcaller
Red says smart
Luke says he's just kind of there and makes jokes
Red says everyone in his room, he's chatted them, all day he's been trying to talk to him all day. But because he doesn't trust him and he sees what he's doing to other people, he's treated him like a mushroom. Keep him in the dark and feed him sh**
Luke says he should hang out with him now
Red says after eviction and that HOH, that's when they'll see where people's loyalty lies. Hopefully he'll always see he's not a bullsh**ter. He tells him things but he's never gonna come to him with bullsh**
Luke says like how Jag is a supergenius
Red says not a supergenius
Luke says he has to keep an eye on him right?
Red says watch where he goes, watch what he's doing. Watch the way people are interacting.
3:41 PM BBT: Cory talks with Izzy in the Comic room
Cory talks about his conversation with Luke
Cirie joins and leaves
Izzy asks Cory about Cameron
Cory says they vibe, but he thinks about if he won HOH who he'd put up. He thinks her, Cirie, Jared. He feels good about Mecole. He'd never put up Reilly because she saved him.
Izzy asks if he thinks there are people he wants to work with
Cory says what the can't tell is if Luke wants to work with
Izzy says as in adding Cameron to that list
Cory says he didn't mention Cameron one time, but if he knew Cameron was with them... The only people he mentioned by name were him, Matt, and Reilly. He thinks it's because he saw him nominated, and then he wasn't nominated anymore.
Izzy asks what the deal with Reilly was
Cory says they talked, he's from Nashville, he's the youngest, she's the second youngest, and if she says him, it goes without saying, he's not going after her for a long time.