10:22 AM Kirsten talks briefly with Cory and Blue in the bathroom about comps
Kirsten leaves
Blue celebrates the veto players
Kirsten pulled Blue's name, Reilly pulled Hisam's, and Felicia pulled Bowie's for veto
Jared walks past them
Blue says she's super excited. She thinks it worked out perfectly
Blue tells Cory she told Reilly that she thought it would be beneficial to tell Hisam she would've chose him for veto
Blue tells Cory she came up with the name Family Style for the alliance. And they have the most diverse group.
Blue asks Cory when someone wins the veto, when does the person who wins, when's the veto ceremony
Cory says usually it's Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. Tuesday is the actual ceremony
Wednesday's the last day to figure things out, and Thursday if they have to. Thursday's HOH. Friday nominations. Veto the next day. Space space space. Veto ceremony.
Reilly had to spend all night talking to everybody. He's glad the veto worked out the way it did. If someone else wins, it's okay. They nominate one other person. Random person, Felicia, Cir-, and anyone in the Comic room. The one bailout they might have is Luke.
Blue says when she's been talking to people they assume that the group is Reilly, Matt, Luke, him. Some people think it's Cameron too. Some people don't Because they see CAmeron with Red, and they don't see REd with that group. The fact that there's four more people being her, Jag, America, and JAred, that's strong because they're silent. What she's gonna try to convince America, Jag, and Jared to do is stay quiet.
Cory says if anyone says a word, it's over. He's happy because there's so many people he connects with but it's hard to go beyond that because it's weird. And they talked about having other people and he's trying to figure out who his other people are gonna be. Because Cirie, he's been talking to more than most and he thinks right now he's just been trying to play up he's a little boy, he's such a big fan. It's really easy to play up because he feels that way to a certain extent but he's really, he knows the game at the end of the day. He's not super active. He's confused why people would think he's part of the power structure because it's not exactly been like he's been dominating this week, who can stop him. They've gotta get that threat out. Just based on MAtt and Luke, that doesn't shock him, but it's funny. He's flattered.
Blue asks if he has anyone in the house he's nervous about, that he doesn't get along with.
Cory says there's people he hasn't had a chance to have a real conversation with and then, there's no one he has negative... The people who would win HOH that he wouldn't feel easy, he has to talk to Izzy. Because he feels like they should get along just based on who they are. They just haven't had the chance to talk yet. He feels like he'll have time for that. He's trying to buddy up with Red. He'll win some competitions. If Felicia comes out and wins three HOHs, amazing. But he doesn't feel as concerned about becoming best friends with Felicia because it'd have to be a certain type of competition. So right now, of the outside of the group, he doesn't know what Luke would do but he doesn't think he would do him.
Blue says she was asking because between the two of them, her wildcards are Luke and Red. When it comes down to saving her ass, she doesn't...
Cory says he hasn't talked game with Luke but he feels confident when it comes to Luke, when he says they're from the same hometown, Luke went to the same high school ten minutes from his. He almost feels like it's an oversight in casting. He almost feels like he should go like "bro, I've talked to some people, Blue, big fan of you, Cameron, big fan" and maybe someone random. He feels like he'll be fine. He's not sitting there like his target is this person and then backdoor... no shot. And then Red, he's trying to be genuine and then use the genuineness to form that relationship with Red, but Red has so much life experience and he doesn't. And he's been trying to have that mentor-mentee kind of thing going. He just doesn't know how many active conversations he's involved in. That room scares him. The comics room. There's nothing to do but talk. So if he wins HOH. It's weird because most people don't think ti would be them but then you start to think who would it be?
Blue says after they talked last night she went downstairs to talk to Hisam and basically what happened, she was like what's up. But they were talking and part of her safety bubble is him and Izzy, and she feel slike she's been planting good seeds, she feels really good with them, they're all part of the queer community, so they have that connection. What kind of bites her in the ass now is when they were talking about it, he was like he wants to talk to her and Izzy. She hadn't had a one on one with him until last night so she didn't really know. She knew he wanted to work together btu she didn't know to what extent. So when they talked about it yesterday, he said he could definitely see something happening here, and he's the one that told her, he definitely sees and alliance happening, and she's like who do you think it is and he's like the typical alliance that Big Brother always has. It's the Reilly, Matt...
Cory says yeah all the jocks like Cory
Blue says yeah Cory, that big motherf***er
Cory says conversations with him have been bizarre. Night one he comes up to him and he's like aggressive like "You and I, we got this sh**". He's like okay. And then he talks to Hisam later after HOH, he's like "Hey man I really appreciate you coming up to me". It's nice for someone to come up to him instead of him having to do this. Hisam was not giving him f***ing anything. In his head it was very transparent. He's another guy who's gonna have competitions. No doubt. Smart guy too
Blue says this is where she comes in too, where it's. She's gonna butter him up. The part that bites her in the ass is when they were talking about it they were talking about getting a little personal, he's like being gay and Muslim, it's really hard for them to get representation, blah blah blah, and then he was like he wants to create an alliance that aligns with his values, and that's where her and Izzy come in. So she's like f***, moral compass bro. So now she needs to tread super lightly. So she said yeah totally, she could see something happening probably but just to be transparent, she's trying to play this game as strategic as possible so she doesn't want to create an alliance just for numbers. She wants to create a core group and she hasn't talked much game to people, and she's trying to downplay her relationship with them
10:43 AM BBT: Cirie talks with Reilly in the open room
Cirie: So then what?
Reilly says in her heart she's just manifesting that this goes easy peasy. Every perso nin the house is on the same page. She's trying to think of a replaecment nom right now. She's comfortable with most people. The only one she hasn't talked too much to is Luke
Cirie: Okay, okay. Yeah
Reilly says she has no bad feelings about him but he's the one person that didn't come to her room and talk
Cirie says she told America she likes her, and she'd love to play with her in any capacity. It was just kind of like. It wasn't like sure, but it wasn't like no. So, but that's it. She doesn't want to be sketchy, running around. She feels like she's good with them. She doesn't want to...
Reilly says she's good
Cirie says then they've got Izzy too. Ms Felicia, so whatever she needs them to do, protect her, however she has to repay her she's willing to do.
Reilly sees Kirsten, they change topics
Reilly says all goes well, everything she knew she wanted to happen is going to happen
Cirie: Yeah, and you got me. Whatever you need
Reilly: Yeah
Cirie: Dead ass. I know you gotta do your stuff but just know you keep me as a number. Okay?
Reilly: 100% You have my back, I got you
Cirie: (hug) When I know something like I did this morning, I'll let you know
Reilly: And that's the thing, I was just upstairs, everyone was kind of like visiting or whatever
Cirie: See I can't do it though. When everybody's there, I'm not gonna be like hey come here
Reilly: Right. I was like guys like I'm really happy with this. I don't know if everyone's on the same page but I'm pretty sure we're all (??) it's the same common denominator. ... Make it clean, make it easy, let's not make it any worse. ... The only goal right now is that veto necklace is not around her neck, and we are smooth sailing
Cirie: The only person... no everybody. If anybody wins you're good
Reilly :If anybody wins
Cirie: Except her
Reilly: Disaster. Disaster. Literally, that's the kind of sh** that happens in Big Brother. Never underestimate anybody. The odds are in our favor but disaster situation the only person I can think of right now is maybe Luke just because he hasn't talked any game with me
Cirie: Okay
Reilly: At all. So I feel like he doesn't have anybody
Kirsten starts walking over
Reilly changes her volume and starts talking about the veto competition
10:50 AM BBT: Blue continues her conversation with Cory
Blue says she was like f***, now she's gotta play with her moral compass and her values and her whatever, so she was just telling him. Now she needs to tread lightly. She was like yeah totally she hears him but she really wants to create an alliane where she really trusts, so she's gonna keep it really small, maybe give her full trust to one or two people, whatever whatever. SO she thinks basically what she was trying to allude to him was that she would keep him and Izzy but she doesn't want to have a big alliance, just so, because she's loyal to the eight. When their eight makes a decision, she can go to Hisam and Izzy, and talk to them and hopefully be almost like the leader figure or voice of reason and whatever their eight says, she can then have them join them without being with them.
Corysays eight's a good number but... is it actually eight votes? Because say Reilly's HOH, there would be 7 actually people voting, and then, a 7-7 tie, they could break that, but it never hurts to have extra. If it's a 7-6 vote every week, it's not gonna become difficult to figure out what's going on.
Blue says yeah so with that being said, she wants to protect, especially Hisam as much as she can personally. She's letting people in their eight know, she's gonna want to protect him until their group has no other choice until she is the last person standing voting for him, she's the minority vote when it comes to him
Cory says what he wants to do, he's concerned just in the sense of Hisam is putting him in that group of four, so, and this might sound convenient, but ultimately he feels it would be good for her game, good for his game. He vibes with everyone in the room, but there's levels to these things. ... the eight but, what does she think he should do in regards to Izzy and Hisam because before he came into this game he decided there's lines he's not gonna cross. When it comes to the alliance she's talking about. He's not gonna try to sow seeds of distrust, because that's horrible. It makes sense. So he's trying to figure out what his role in all of that is.
Hisam walks in, and they change topics.
Cory asks Hisam what he thinks the comp is gonna be. Hisam says the martini comp from BB23. It's gonna be something like gears, some puzzle, but also something big. It's mental.
11:05 AM BBT: Cirie talks with Izzy on the couch about her talk with Reilly
Cirie: She said that's the only person that she hasn't talked game with
Izzy: I think she trusts you a lot
Cirie: I don't know. I'm nervous now
Izzy: You questioning it?
Cirie: Right. I don't know, but maybe I'm overthinking it. Because if you trust me so much, why ain't I in your eight person alliance?
Izzy: No, I know
Cirie: So how much can you trust me. I'm the 9th or 10th in your eight person alliance so I don't feel that great about that. I'm thankful for the little hosting gig but, don't get it twisted. I ain't your favorite. I ain't high up on the list
[Cirie knows about the alliance]
Cirie and Izzy talk about what the veto comp might be
Cirie tells him she's doing fine. Everybody has told her that she's not a backdoor target.
Cirie tells Hisam that they need Luke.
Hisam asks why
Cirie says there's an eight person alliance. They might bring Luke in it, but he's not in it. And they might try to bring Red in
Hisam says Red is with them
Cirie says she knows. Red asked about him, and she said 100%. But without Luke it's a tie. Luke is the tiebreaker. The scary thing is do you tell him and he goes and tell everyone? How do you tell him?
Hisam says they probably have Cory
Cirie says they have Cory
Hisam asks if they have Jared
Cirie pauses and says she thinks Jared is low on the totem pole, and she doesn't think so
Hisam says he's swayable
Cirie says if they can get Jared, and she thinks they can, they're still short. He (Hisam) can try to get Luke, but he's been acting like he's clueless. He has to let him know that there are sides. If he gets Luke that would be great.
Izzy returns to the group
Hisam asks if they have Blue
Izzy nods
Hisam says Blue told her yesterday that Jag is her number one
11:37 AM BBT: Jared talks with Reilly and Jag in the bathroom
Jared asks Reilly how her talk went
Reilly gives a thumbs up
Jag asks about the talk
Reilly says she hadn't talked to Cirie since noms, so she said she wanted to talk to her and Felicia, and Cirie said everyone's on the same page
Felicia walks in
Reilly says she just talked to Cirie and everyone is on the same page. Their odds are good for veto and at this point everyone is ready to get this over with and move forward. She hopes she feels comfortable. She promises she's in the clear. ... The odds are very much in their favor. So don't even sweat.
11:54 AM BBT: Mecole talks with Cory upstairs over chess
Cory says he thinks they vibe pretty well
Mecole agrees
Cory says the best part about it is he doesn't think it's a Matt and Luke situation where everybody's gonna be like come on. They don't have to meet every day. Everything he has, if he ever hears her name, straight to her
Mecole says absolutely, she appreciates that, and likewise
Cory says he wants the paranoid voice in his head, even if it's a you coming to her and saying they think he might be in an alliance with whoever, an all guys alliance, all the alpha males. Cory, Matt (laughs)
He asks if there's anyone she feels like is probably alright
Mecole say she feels like she has decent conversations on a general level with Cameron. She doesn't think he trusts her to talk game to her but he feels very easy to talk to and that's fine. She's in the room with America and Felicia and Kirsten. They haven't talked game but just being in that similar space. She feels like she's sitting in a space with the idea that because she hasn't talked game as much as she would like to, she doesn't think anyone really trusts her yet to
Cory says he doesn't feel like it's much of a risk
Mecole says same. She doesn't feel like she's putting herself in a position where people are like she's sneaky. She feels like good about this, and it makes her hesitant with other people because she doesn't feel like she sees anybody alone. People are always together. She's watched enough to know that conversations are happening
Cory says the way a normal season plays out, he doesn't think that goes well for you
Mecole says for sure, isolation is dangerous
Cory says right now he feels like to a lot of people he's the puppy dog in a lot of ways, following people around
Mecole says same
Cory says he thinks it's fine but it's been so hard to have an actual conversation as two people talking to each other. Veto obviously matters a lot. He's a lot more worried about HOH
Mecole says she thinks the consensus about what she feels which is what she mentioned with him and Jag is she thinks they stay the same
Cory says if one of them wins for sure, but outside of that...
Mecole says she'd be surprised. That's a very ballsy move so early
Cory says he wouldn't be thrilled if he was Reilly
Mecole says she feels like if you are not part of a situation that she feels comfortable with, it could likely be you. So she doesn't think anybody...
Cory says Reilly is clearly super smart
Mecole says absolutely. She doesn't think putting Reilly in a position this early and possibly putting someone else on the block... because even if you don't, even if you're not making the choice, you indirectly put them in. You're indirectly threatening someone else
Cory says the way he sees it, if things stay the same, they're going to next week
Mecole says she thinks next week's HOH means the most because the nominees were already set. This was a 50/50 chance for the two sets of people that were already up there
12:00 PM BBT Cirie talks with Bowie in the Comic room
Bowie says she just said she wanted to make sure the oldest person isn't leaving first. Reilly said absolutely not
Cirie says she said the same thing to her. She asked Reilly who else could it be, and she said the only person that hasn't talked game with her is Luke
Bowie says Reilly is not having a showmance
Cirie says she doesn't think Reilly is in a showmance but she's smart enough to use her strength for the guys to... The faction is the replacables and the superheroes. They have Cory
Bowie: Oh they've got names?
Cirie: (laughs)
Bowie says she thought she said they're called the superheroes
Cirie says her, Bowie, Izzy, Mecole, Red, Hisam. They're not in the major alliance. And Luke
Bowie asks if they're sure about this other
Cirie says and Luke. Luke is not in it for whateer reason but he was talking stuff, so she doesn't know. They have Cameron
Bowie asks how they know this
Cirie says her little birdie. They have Cameron, they have Blue, and America. So they're right now in the minority. But one of them could win the head of household. There's still that option. But it's telling that you have an alliance that she wasn't invited to
Bowie says yeah, but that's fine. It's gonna happen. She doesn't think they should be scared that someone's got one
Cirie says the only scaredness about this is the scaredness about the boys thing
Bowie says the numbers game
Cirie says because their numbers are the minority numbers
Bowie asks if Red knows
Cirie says he's with (us)
Bowie asks if they're sure
Cirie says yes. They had a conversation with him this morning in the bathroom
Bowie asks if they're sure sure
Cirie: Don't do that to meeee
Bowie: I was joking
Cirie says she thinks he's an honorable person
Bowie says she likes him
Cirie says he said that
Bowie says they'll just go with it. Who cares
Cirie says she wants to be sure sure
Bowie says it would just be if he was a spy
Cirie says she knows, it would be terrible
Bowie says she (Cirie) hasn't said about. Never speak about it
Cirie says what for
Bowie says exactly
Cirie says 3, 2, 1 is all she knows
Bowie says she was thinking, because Reilly and her were saying they want to trim up the Have Not room
Cirie says it might not be another voluntary thing
Bowie says yeah, but she doesn't think it's good if they're... because it's done
Cirie agrees. And the fact that Reilly picked her, she was thinking maybe she liked her somewhat? She's just afraid of the next HOH if it's not one of them, and she gets really sketchy
Bowie says they might not be first pick anyway
Cirie says she hopes not but she doesn't know because if Luke is the only
Bowie says actually if Luke goes up, he would get voted before Kirsten and Kirsten would next week, unless she wins head of household
12:08 BBT Mecole and Cory continue their upstairs conversation
Mecole says she definitely thinks they need to be on the same page
Cory says he just hopes they don't have to worry about it
Mecole says she just doesn't want it to be like "I haven't talked to her, let's put her ass up as the replacement nominee"
Cory says right now he feels like his biggest problem. First of all f*** this Nether bullsh**. He thinks it'll resolve itself over time, but there are some people he hasn't talked to, and it's mostly people downstairs and he wants to do that as soon as possible, just make it not seem as stiff as "Hey do you wanna go have a conversation"
Mecole says she feels like she has good general conversations with the people downstairs that she would be willing to be like look, Cory is (??)
Cory says he has he feels like good access to Luke. He feels like he gets along with Reilly. He thinks they both vibe with Cameron. Jag and him have a good rapport
Mecole says she wants to build something with Jag. She hasn't been able to talk to him that much
Cory says it's something as simple as him saying to Jag that he's been talking to her and thinks she really likes him. If they could just cover for each other in that way... The main important thing for them is being subtle because that's why he was searching for someone who wasn't like (??). He wants someone who has a different thought process, background, everything. He doesn't think there's any shot people are gonna look at them and be like, "dynamic duo", f***ing showmance. It really is impossible off one conversation to fully trust somebody but his thought is, once someone fully commits to him it makes it easier to fully commit to them. Because he thinks everyone's scared to take the leap but everyone wants the leap to be taken
Mecole says she thinks that's her
Cory says he's gonna be honest, he doesn't see either of them having a tremendous amount of power anytime soon so he thinks their job has to be get as far forward as they can until things are gonna start to shift. Because then they can start trying to figure something out. Right now it's just about getting through. He thinks she'll agree. His thought is get through the first couple weeks, he thinks he'll be alright
Mecole agrees
Cory says the first couple weeks are kind of a crapshoot
Mecole says the scariest weeks. Based on aesthetics, the people who would be considered the strongest, she feels like would have the most conversations with each other. At some point they're gonna have to turn on each other. THey can't all be strong and coexist.
Cory says he thinks everyone is all kumbaya until they're in trouble.He doesn't think they're in trouble but he doesn't think they're in great shape
Mecole says absolutely. They may not be the immediate options, but at some point
Cory says just doing the math, say Bowie Jane wins. Big fan, they've had fun conversations, but he's thinking if not him then who. And as much as sitting on the eviction block might be exhilarating, he's gonna avoid that as much as he can.
Cory asks if she feels good about Jared
Mecole says she feels like she hasn't had real conversations with Jared
Cory says he feels like they were vibing up there but it was also one of those like they were vibing, that was it.
Mecole says exactly. She doesn't think she's seen Jared in a secluded place by himself
Cory says he's the exact same guy who he feels like if he went to him he would be like "You should probably talk to Meme". He thinks he's someone who would be willing
Mecole says she would be surprised if he wouldn't be but she just hasn't had conversations. She hasn't the opportunity to. Generally speaking, she likes his vibe. And also based on looks, he gets along with people but maybe he's trying to feel it out
Cory says he also doesn't know, and they might be delusional, if he is part of that thing, he can't imagine Jared is at the top of it. He was a nominee. Even if it's him going to them saying Cory and Mecole aren't doing sh**, then it could do nothing but help.
Mecole says she would love to have that conversation with him one on one, but she would love to have that moment. Because they were in the first comp together. So she would love to have a general conversation with him to see where his head is. To see what the vibe is. She thinks it could be good if she puts some effort into it.
Cory says it's also another person who could win where he feels fine
Mecole agrees
Cory says he's not sure he'd feel grand, but he'd feel fine
12:15 PM BBT: Cirie, Izzy, and Bowie talk in the Comic room
Hisam joins
Bowie says she was just telling Reilly once they realized they were all little lies, then they were like oh cool now they don't need to worry about any of it
Izzy says Red just initiated that they're his people and he loves Hisam, so they were just saying this is the squad that's for this side.
Hisam says so that's 6
Izzy counts them plus Felicia, Mecole, and Red, that's 7
Hisam asks if they need 8
Cirie says 8 is a tie ... there's 17 people right now
Izzy says three people don't vote
Izzy says 7 is the numbers for next week
Hisam says provided that their side wins. Because if their side wins, they can put two of them up
Izzy says then one of them doesn't have a vote so it's 6
Bowie says so it's better to not
Izzy says no, they want to set a new tone. ... Izzy asks what they think about Luke, and asks if Hisam s gonna work on that
Bowie says she'd be careful with him. He might not be very smart about it
Izzy says he's the only one that's the fringe
Bowie says yeah but he also wouldn't be a very good liar, he just blurts things out
Cirie says before the first challenge Luke was talking to her about zodiac signs and said he gets firey. She doesn't think you take Luke's whole Lukism at face value. She thinks there's more behind that than she thinks
Bowie says maybe
Cirie says that's what he portrayed to her unsolicited
Hisam says Luke is a wildcard, and he's playing a game of floating
Cirie says that's kind of smart, you can go here, you can go there until it doesn't work
Izzy says says he's a potential number until a point and then he's the perfect throw him to the wolves
Bowie says she's gonna leave so it doesn't look suspicious
Hisam says the other side of the house is Blue, and she's connected to America, and then they're connected to Jag, and Jag's connected to Reilly, and Reilly's connected to Matt and Jared, no Matt is connected to Cameron, and Cameron is connected to Jared
Izzy says Cory. So they have eight
Cirie says she thinks her and Ms Felicia might be able to undercover pull Jared. Not to expose him. Let them think they have the numbers, but if he votes with them, then that gives them what?
Izzy says that gives them 8 without Luke
Hisam says they're going to get rid of him over there
Cirie says she knows
Hisam says he's going to be the perfect pawn because he's already been on the block or nominations. And he told Jared, he'll know where Reilly's alliances lie by who she takes off the block. She took off both Jared and Cory
Izzy says Reilly made it very clear. She thinks Cory could've very easily been the pawn but she chose Felicia
Hisam says the other factor is win the veto and pull Felicia down
Cirie says honestly, she thinks right now, she knows he wants to go for it, she thinks Felicia is good either way. And she thinks she knows it. Obviously if it's her, she has a tinge in the back of her mind she wants everybody to take her down. Then he's setting a precedent. He's saying F you Reilly and your group, he's gonna save Felicia. That's taking on a huge undertaking.
Hisam says he thinks she's right
Cirie says there's no verse where Felicia would go first
Izzy says she's also just thinking about if Kirsten wins. She thought the time they had with Reilly was good but she doesn't want to say who he backdoor option is. She knows she talked to Cirie, but the problem is
Cirie says but she didn't say if this happens, she's gonna put Luke. She said she's gonna have to think about it because he hasn't talked game with her
Izzy says that to her is scary
Hisam says he thinks her sid ewill be gunning for veto which is Cameron, Blue, her, and then him, and Felicia.
Cirie says this is too much for her
Hisam says it's becoming very clear Jag is a very pivotal person in their group. And he thinks with him being such a pivotal person a lot of people surround him. And a lot of the girls are connected to him. Blue brings in America, and then Reilly is his number one and she said that's her number one. If you're looking at the chain of people, he's smack dab in the middle
Izzy asks if they're getting the sense that Reilly thinks that they're truly not talking and they're waiting for this
Cirie says she thinks just like "we" know what it is, she thinks they and everybody else knows what it is
Izzy says that's what she thinks too
Cirie says you gotta consider, unless you think there's a bunch of bumbling idiots on the other side. "We" are smart enough with the six or seven of them to figure out. It's almos tlike right here in everyone's face
Hisam says he had a conversation with Blue and Blue was like
Big Brother tells Hisam to adjust his microphone
Hisam says it is adjusted, and then leaves
Cirie says what bothers her is Reilly didn't say she's putting up what's her name. But maybe she couldn't. She wants to ask about who goes up if the girl wins
Izzy says she was really not saying anything
Cirie asks if it's that she can't say
Izzy says but she can say what she' s thinking of
Cirie says she did, she said Luke. That was it though
Izzy says Reilly could've... but then again she isn't Reilly's people
Cirie says she isn't either. Her eight is her people
Izzy says think about this. She called her bestie, she's making her host, she gave her maybe a name
Cirie says that's making her comfortable before the kill. That's the perfect backdoor
Izzy says let's just think about that
Cirie says she said it
Izzy asks if she said that to her
Cirie says no, she's saying it to her. That's what scares her
Izzy says she's been thinking about that the whole time
Cirie asks if she thinks Reilly might backdoor her
Izzy says she thinks you have to give it though
Cirie says there's nothing to figure out if she does it. If Reilly does it she's screwed. That's it. She's hoping Reilly will use her as a number
Izzy says it just feels like there's potential for buttering her up but then backdoor her
Cirie says she wants to say something to who?
Izzy says to Jared
Cirie says no don't make him because even if that's the case, she doesn't want it to affect him. She doesn't want him to say anything on behalf of anything. Just let it happen. They don't have the numbers. If it's gonna happen it's gonna happen. She doesn't want it to affect him at all. But just stay with him
Izzy says of course
Cirie says if that happens she'll have time to talk to him. She will tell him stay with the alliance, but they don't know who votes what, and they're not gonna figure out who votes what. He's not gonna hang with "yall" but she's gonna tell him to vote with "yall"
Izzy says she's not trying to ...
Cirie says no, she doesn't think she thought of it herself?
Izzy says she knows she did
Cirie says as soon as Reilly picked her she was like why did she pick her?
Izzy says left field
Cirie says her? Get her all comfortable and calm, but they don't even need to do that because they have the numbers
Izzy says she knows, part of her is wondering are they thinking so deep
Cirie says yes, she always overthinks everything. You gotta think about everything. It is what it is. There's nothing they can do about it. "Let's not work ourselves up" Let the veto happen and hopefully anybody but Kirsten wins
Izzy says of course
Cirie says but you know how this sh** happens
Izzy says she said before like within their thing she's gonna be intense because, but she's trying today
Cirie laughs
Izzy says she gets herself all riled up
Cirie says they think alike. She knows as soon as it happened she was like heeheehee but then she was like damn it could be her. Why would she pick her? Does it make her conscience better if she backdoors her?
Izzy says if she does that, that undermines everything that she said
Cirie says everybody's gonna look at her, right
Izzy says even upstairs she was like
Cirie says but she's sure Cory is telling them, "You have to get rid of Cirie". Positive, (??) little snot is telling her because the way he looks at her. She always catches him look at her like this. What are you watching her for you little snot?
Izzy says her thing is either they're being vindictive and targeting her because he knows Survivor and whatever or he's an awkward kid
Cirie says they saved him. Either he's sweeping her floor, cleaning the HOH bathroom, or giving her all the information that he thinks is necessary on who the next target should be. They had to talk about what if he wins
Izzy says she knows
Cirie says Reilly's group isn't gonna look at her funny for getting her. Her group is gonna look at her like yay slay the dragon. Their group which doesn't have the numbers might look at her funny. She'll know she lost Felicia but they don't think Felicia's gonna win anything so they don't count. They look at them like they're not gonna win anything
Izzy says she knows, she hates that she wants to win. She's very aware that likelihood is less than higher
Cirie says look at how they look at Hisam like that. Hisam was close. Who was in the lead before...? It was Hisam So she doesn't know why they look at him, don't think of him as an asset
Cirie is called to the Diary Room
Izzy says to the cams "Oh my God, don't backdoor Cirie"
12:39 PM BBT: Izzy talks with Jared in the Have Not room
Hisam joins
Izzy asks Jared if Reilly ever brought up a backdoor option to him
Jared says no
Izzy says she said a name to Cirie and she's wondering why she chose that. She's gauging if Reilly said that to anyone else
Jared says no she never said that
Izzy says okay. She knows she's banking on Kristen not winning, but she's just thinking about scenarios.
Jared says he's glad she came. She's still waiting for a personal convo, but he feels a little weird asking people to talk, especially if it's in front of a group
Izzy says she thinks that part is gonna get easier
...
Izzy says Kirsten can't win
Jared says it's gonna get extremely bloody if she does
Izzy says she's extremely worried about it. That is the only thing that she's. Personally she feels safe. Maybe that's naive. But she doesn't feel safe because she's not. she's on the fringe. She thinks Reilly wants to work with her, with Hisam in the way, but she's not in the inside of it. So her people are at risk.
Hisam says he feels like there's a group that's coming together
Jared asks who he's thinking of
Hisam says he feels like there's a group that's come together, doesn't he think?
Jared says at this point, he's being naive just because it's early but then again the game side of him is like come on it has to be something by now. But he doesn't know. This whole kumbaya thing is confusing because that's why he doesn't think so yet because it seems like they're all too fresh to even want to be like alright, I'm rocking with you, or I'm rocking with you. SO he doesn't know. He realyl doesn't know. He hates to sound like such a rookie but.
Izzy says they don't have to go in deep necessarily, she just wanted to see if he finds the time, she thinks it would be important
Jared says he definitely wants to pick her brain because for him it's like nerve wracking because to him thinking logically, if he was in her position and Kirsten came down, wouldn't it be easy to put back up a nominee? So that's why he's a little iffy and that's why he kind of wants to have a conversation. He didn't even think of them yet because why even start something when you could just renom. so for him it's a nailbiter too. He doesn't want to keep saying he doesn't want to sound bad because at the end of the day it's a game, but he's kind of banking on Kirsten losing too. Because he's like he doesn't awnt her to have to think about. Because if it was him he'd be like f*** it just put up another nom. This way it doesn't seem like, hey why not? That's why even hearing it at the jungle gym, the balance beams when he was like even if you come off you're still not safe, he was like oh sh**. He didn't even think of that. You can go right back up, adn right now it seems like the easy way out. He really doesn't know.
Izzy tells him to get out of here so them three aren't in here and she's gonna stay with Hisam for a second. She's showing him that they can do the thing.
Izzy says she knows he was there when they talked about it. She wants to say this and maybe can this be a thing that stays between the two of them, just for now. Her concern is that Reilly's going to backdoor Cirie. Her concern is that Reilly said bye bestie to Cirie the other night which is exactly what she was saying to Kirsten. It was just like an interesting thing, and why did she pick her to host, and why did she tell her Luke?
Hisam says Jared is lying
Izzy says she knows
Hisam says they heard the noise and that means Cameron left. So Cameron and him were talking here, they didn't play chess. Before they left they said they were gonna play chess but then he said Meme and Cory are playing chess, they didn't get to play, but they were both downstairs with them
Izzy says she knows
Hisam says then he was like trying to pick their brains for what they know, and he would be careful because for him, he likes to talk. Is he using this information to get closer to them? Or thinks he's going to get closer to them. So he thinks it's best for them to be...
Mecole joins them
Izzy says she hears him and she will at some point but she hears him and yes. She agrees
Hisam says he thinks his goal is going to be to win this veto
Izzy says he has to
Hisam says if he doesn't what will end up happening is there's a potential backdoor option for them. And he thinks what's becoming clear is one Jared is a terrible liar. They still don't trust Jared
Mecole says absolutely
Hisam says it's also a thing he watched him literally make up sh** now
Izzy says every time he's like that
Hisam says Jared was like he didn't get to play chess because Meme and Cory were playing chess
Izzy asks Mecole if she was playing chess
Mecole says they were
Hisam asks when?
Mecole says when Cameron and Jared walked over
Hisam says oh, so that wasn't a lie
Mecole says they were playing chess
Hisam says he thinks that he needs to win the veto so they can keep nominations the same and then they need to strategize how they basically take their group against the other group because it's becoming really clear that Cameron came in here with him to basically loop him in.
Mecole says Jared and Cameron came up when she and Cory were playing chess and then they were up here until Izzy and Hisam came up
Izzy says yes. They were walking out when she came up here
Mecole says that was like 30 minutes
Izzy says okay
Hisam says because they went to go check on Reilly
Izzy says it was the scary crew in the bathroom. Reilly, Matt, Blue, America, Jag. Which of course, that's the core
Hisma says that group is an alliance right?
Mecole says yes
Hisam says that's clear, and he thinks what's interesting is in the beginning they were hearing Matt get called a lot into the diary room, and he thinks that's the reason, is there's this alliance that's formed and they're doing that "I'm in an alliance with blah blah blah". So he thinks it's smart to think of that. Question is how do they break that? But that's not this week
Izzy says no
[Feeds switch]
Izzy says it's the backdoor that she's very nervous about
Hisam says he just has to make sure that he wins it. But it's gotta become clear that it's 3 against 2 vs 1. It's really 3 to 1.
Mecole says when she went to talk to Reilly she was very adamant about keeping nominations the same. She was like "I would like for them to stay the same"
Izzy says she knows. That's what she's saying to everyone, which she thinks is truly the first option. But her concern is why is Cirie the only one she mentioned any kind of name to, and why did she make her the host of the veto comp? That was a curveball.
Hisam says why wouldn't she choose Jag?
Izzy says yes. Her concern is that this is the buttering up before cutting out the queen. And her concern is that Cory is a Survivor fan, and her concern is that they have Cory and he's feeling all f***ing pumped up being pulled off with his smug ass face in that nomination ceremony, he's going to them feeding them this big move. Cirie cannot go home.
Hisam says he'll play a little harder
Izzy says she truly believes if Cirie goes home they're widdling it down
Mecole says the next scariest option for them is Hisam
Izzy says 100% and she thinks she's next
Mecole says the rest of them are chopped liver. Their two biggest concerns are Cirie and Hisam
Hisam says he thinks they just do their best, try to win
Izzy says she's tense with them because it's them, because she felt too active yesterday and she's trying to back off, but she wants them to know that she's very much seriously thinking about that. Cirie can know. They had a little longer conversation about it. She didn't say she was going to talk to them but she wanted to like...
Hisam says they'll figure it out. When Mecole saw him that's what he was thinking about
Mecole says she's been thinking about that all day. She's like this feels...
Izzy says it feels too good to be true espeically because the one good long talk she had with REilly, she's smart. She wants to play this hard and she was using language like building an army, and she doesn't buy completely her being a part of that like REilly fed her because she's not, because she hasn't been saked to be in. She's very good at looking at you and making you feel like she's listening to you an dusing you rname again and saying she agrees with that but there is something calm before the storm. And she knows. Yeah. She just knows they're probably like "Well, we should start the game how it was supposed to be and get rid of Cirie who wasn't supposed to be here" or who's just the, or they're thinking she's just the gimmick add for season 25 or whatever. So she's just putting it out there for them
Mecole says and they also don't know what happened to Cory in the Nether. That could also still be something. When she was sitting up here talking to him, he was like "Who do you feel like you feel comfortable with?"
Izzy says he did initiate that iwth her? That's interesting
Mecole says yeah
Izzy asks what she said
Mecole says she said she had really good conversations with Cameron. And she doesn't feel liek Cameron trusts her at all, but she was just throwing sh** out there
Izzy says she's been doin ga great job with Cameron for sure
Mecole says she's had really good conversation with Cameron. They have really good banter
Izzy asks how Cory reacted
Mecole says he was like oh, yeah he thinks they do have a good conversation. She said and the girls that are in her room, Kirsten, and America because they're like the young kind of crew they along together as girlfriends. But they're not like a threat. He was like well you know I just feel like I never get to spend any time down there. He kind of alluded to the idea that she spends time. He was like he just feels like he doesn't spend enough time in the comic room
Izzy says but motherf***er walk right in
Mecole says he said and he would like to but he just doesn't know how to initiate it.
Hisam says he doesn't think that' sactually true. He thinks what they're seeing is tehre were a group of peopl ewho basically all saw each other as people they wanted to work with, that basically ended up in teh Scary room together. They basically formed something right at the start, and now they're bsaically bringing in enough people fo numbers, and their plan will be to cut them when they need them. SO this is people amassing a group of people. He thinks where he was is he didn't realize how much the group had already come together, especiall yin that Scary room, so he thinks moving forward, they just have to be mindful that there are a lot of people who are connected and Jag is actually one of the main people. He's the lynch pin to this group.
Izzy says she thinks Jag brought Scary room to Reilly, and Reilly and Jag
Hisam says are close, so this is how they happens. He basically brings in Blue, he brings in Cameron, and he brings in Matt. And Matt and Reilly rare already, they already had some mutual connection, friendship. But when Blue told him Jag was her number one, he was like ohhh. And then her best friend is America.
Mecole says she said that.
Hisam says so they are where they are. SO the best thing they can do is he hopes that he wins this power of veto and keeps nominations the same. They will vote out Kirsten. And then the very next thing, their side has to win
Mecole says they have to
Hisam says and then if they win HOH, they have to actually take one of their strong people, and pu tthem next to each other
Izzy says they don't have to start saying i tout loud. She thinks it's best if they don't, but she thinks all of them should start thinking about who they think would be those two options for nominations, and backdoor options. Just think on their own. Don't say it ou tloud
Hisam says he think that would get them, but it's really clear to him that Jag is actually important.
Mecole says she was gonna say where do they feel like he stands?
Hisam says no where
Izzy asks Jag?
Hisam says no, Luke.
Izzy says oh he's friends with Matt, bt they're not talking about this. She doesn't think MAtt is talking game at all. She thinks he's part of that group.
HIsam says he will say this, if they cna bring Luke onto their side, their two sides are equally advantaged. And to be honest ,he thinks they could beat their side. It's just a matter of they can't lose someone from their side
Izzy says here's her question because today she's been trying to be intentional of keeping close because she feels up until this point she's been trying to make a joke and get him to talk game and he just haha and walks away, so she's wondering wha this feeling sare abou thow to go about pulling Luke in.
Blue is in the bathroom talking with Reilly and Jag
Blue says Hisam wanted to make an alliance with her. So her, Izzy, and Hisam. Hisam said as a gay muslim man it's hard for representation and he wants to show America he can go far
So she said yeah she chills with Luke and Matt or whatever, but she really likes Jag and she thinks they can bring Jag into it. It'd be really solid. Izzy and Hisam think she's not close to Reilly at all so she said okay, but honestly she thinks Reilly has a good head on her,s he really likes her, and Hisam was like me too. So she said how about them three and he said that sounds good. So that's gonna be really dificult to navigate.
Reilly says to tiptoe
Blue says it's gonna be even harder to tiptoe because them two are really sussed out about Cory. So with HIsam and Izzy,s he thinks they can take their time. This side alliance is giong to form and she thinks it's still gonna be beneficial for them because from what it sounds like they haven't really talked game to people in teh Comic room but she still wants to keep her eyes open because there's no way they don't talk game. So she planted the seed. She thinks he'd be nice for them three, Izzy and Hisam to get together and say they feel weird about Matt and Luke but they have to tiptoe. They'll take their time with that, but she just wanted to let her know that's the conversation they're having.
Reilly says yeah she wanted to know what he was saying. She doesn't know if he knows who's in her room right now.
Blue says he's sussed out about Cory too because he knew that Cory went to the diary room because he's in the Have Not, and then when Reilly walked out he was like that's weird, where's Cory, and she was like she doesn't know what does he mean, and he said he left for the diary room. He left for the diary room, Reilly just came out, and she says she doesn't know maybe he's in Reilly's room
Mecole comes into the bathroom, and the conversation ends
4:04 PM BBT: Hisam and Cory talk in the Have Not room
4:11 PM BBT: Hisam talks with Kirsten and Red about the competition
4:16 PM BBT: Cory goes into the HOH room to talk to Reilly
Cory says HIsam pulled him in, first thing he said was yeah it feels really good that he gets to help the house
Reilly says so they're fine. Everything's solid. She talked to him before too. Nobody wants to cause a wave. She wanted to take it for herself just because she wanted to stay
Cory says it's better though
Reilly says she would put a hotter target on her back if she won but she was gonna pick him anyway
Jag says he's not in their eight, but if he feels good with her, he's not gonna use it
Reilly says she's fine. He's gonna keep it the same. If there's a problem next week they deal with it. Fo rnow she's comfortabel knowing that the plan is sticking to the plan. She's just happy Kirsten didn't win. She was thinking what if Felicia wins then she takes herself down. She fels like they never talked about if Felicia won. So it was actually 2 against 4. She feels fine for the rest of the week. She talked to Hisam before the comp. They're cool
Cory leaves
Reilly asks Jag what's going on. She likes that Hisam is cool but she doesn't like that he was trying to talk with Blue about her being in an alliance with Luke and Matt. That scares her. Out of her, Jag, and Blue he doesn't trust her.
Jag says he doesn't trust him either
Reilly says Blue said he wasn't skeptical about him
Jag says it seems like he distrusts her, he doesn't talk game with JAg period
Reilly says he only did it with her because she was HOH. She asks Jag if they're still 2
Jag says they're two
Reilly asks if they're still locked in because they haven't really talked a lot
Jag says he wanted to talk to her. He was hoping she threw the comp. He didn't want her winning another comp. But everyone else was doing so bad
Reilly says she had one piece left and she thought about it too, but she didn't knowbecause the suspicion of Hisam last night
Jag says he doesn't think he would do anything
Reilly says she doesn't think he would want to piss her off
Jag says she had a couple pieces left
Reilly says she thinks tha twas the universe doing that for her. So they're good. She thinks Blue is gonna pursue that side alliance with Izzy and Hisam and Hisam and them are gonna try to pull him into it
Jag says he knows Izzy and him are chilling. Izzy was trying to figure out. He doesn't think he's updated her about this because he told Blue
Reilly says he and her haven't been alone
Jag says Izzy was like what's going on. She felt weird vibes. It was just a weird day so she felt like she wasn't chatting with everyone. She was saying she feels good about him and he said he feels good. And she was trying to figure out, she asked if Reilly said who she was gonna put up if Kirsten goes off. He said no, she didn't say who, it's like a non-negotiable. They just have to win and keep it the same Izzy's coming off like she wants to make a team. Soft game talk but she said she's ready to move into hard. She said in the next few days get in a room and sort of. And he said he gets that. She asked who he feels good with, and he said he feels cool with her, but right now he doesn't know for sure who he wants to be in an alliance with because it's so early and he's just picking up vibes from everyone and he doesn't want to rush into something. He would rather wait a few days and then...
Reilly talks with JAred and Cameron in teh HOH room
Hisam and Bowie talk in the gym room
Reilly says she thinks they're gonna start getting more suspicious with numbers. She thinks they're gonna associate all of them right now because they've been in and out of her room. So just tiptoe. Protect the family. All eight of them need to protect each other and be cautious about their actions. But this week HIsam is gonna keep the vote the same because he doesn't want to cause any waves right now, but he's definitely one person to tread lightly around. He's not gonna do anything this week but next week they have to win because she doesn't want to risk somebody from that side winning because they're immediately going to come for her. Probably for Matt
Jared asks why she thinks her
Reilly says because she was the first HOH and they don't have any reason for anybody else. Also Hisam is suspicious of Cory. He saw Cory in and out of his room
Hisam says to Bowie maybe they do actually. Her and Luke
Bowie says she thinks that would be beneficial
Hisam says he's so glad that he won. Cory is super messy and he can't hide it. He's trying his best