12:53 AM BBT: Cirie talks with Izzy in the Comic room
Cirie says this is going to be the funniest season
Izzy says she's gonna pull it together. She promises. Paige is watching this like "You better suck it up. You knew. Don't play yourself like you didn't know". She's like Cirie. She can do it
Cirie says she hsa to do it at work. She doesn't love everyone at work, especially the ones that say "well the union says...". Aww. You think she want sto hear that? She can't just act on it, she has to be like "Sure, so come to my office. No I'm definitely open to". She's not open to hearing that.
Izzy says she bets Cirie gets this too like everyone thinks Paige is the assistant. Like she's the designer
Cirie says right. They're like "Can I speak to the director?", and when she says "oh that's me", they're like "oh!". What's the "oh!" for?
Izzy says she's thinking about that (with Paige), watching Cirie do her thing, it's like okay. Come on, you can do it
Cirie says she has to
Izzy says she's thinking about her promise
Cirie says today's gonna be a good day. She tells Izzy to talk to Hisam, find out what the plan is, and they can chill out, and let him do the work.
Izzy agrees.
Cirie says Hisam's a smart guy.
Izzy says this is wild. She's pulling it together
Cirie says they can't let anybody, even their so-so's they can't let them feel anything
Izzy says it was good that her and Red had a talk
Cirie says yeah and keep it real because they're gonna fight. They're gonna fight two. It's 100 days. As much as she loves her, there's no way they're not gonna have any kind of scuffles or tiffs. Her and Paige don't fight for 100 days? It's gonna happen
Izzy says she knows
Cirie says that's why she was like maybe he should go talk to her. She was like they could leave and he could go talk to her. He was like nah, he'll go talk to her. Said good. Fix this sh** right now. And that was it. Poor Jared
Izzy says it's not good for him if he's the one that has to put up four people and Hisam takes two people down
Cirie says she's not worried about that because she doesn't have to. Right now in this moment (??)
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Cirie says when he comes back she's gonna tell him she knows he wanted to win, but it was the best thing. She was happy, she wasn't sad. She was sad that he was in the Nowhere place, the Nether region, but that's it. He probably was thinking "his mama". No, there's gonna be something she needs him to get. This ain't one of them. She can't wait to tell him that. Like she doesn't need him to get this. This isn't the one he needs to get. She told everybody, including Red.
Izzy says when you're in it, it's hard to remember that it's so soon
Cirie says this is the pivotal one. This is the one where you're gonna punch somebody in the face. So far you've just been talking behind their back. Right now? You're gonna punch them in the face. She doesn't know that Jared in his position should've been the one to punch them in the face. Hisam's the perfect one. They've been punching him already. She hopes Jared sees it that way. If not, she'll reiterate
Izzy says she hopes he's waking up this morning having that clarity.
Cirie says he was like "I wanna win!" and she's like no you gotta chill. Everybody saw that.
Izzy says if they really get down to the seven, they have four. Because Felicia is gonna come with them, not Red or Hisam.
Cirie says right. It's her, Izzy, Jared, and who? Mecole?
Izzy says Mecole, Felicia
Cirie says she thinks five if Meme goes
Izzy says Meme's with them too
Izzy says two on the block, they've got majority. One can't vote. When they get down to eight. It's only 7 people who are voting
Cirie says they have a long way there
Izzy says she knows. She was thinking for them, that's like another solidifying, stick with it, because when they get down to the hard part, they'll have the advantage
Cirie says she agrees
Izzy says she's sticking with it anyway because she doesn't even like any of the other motherf***ers
Cirie says one of them has to win again next week. They have so many players that the chances of one of them winning is really good. Cause Hisam cnan't play next week. She doesn't know if Reilly...
[Feeds switch]
Izzy says it feels really complicated in the house right now. She wants to win something
Cirie says she doesn't think America wants to get her hands dirty
Izzy says she doesn't think she knows what to do
Cirie says she thinks she knows what to do. They're sleeping on America. Her face is like this when it ain't like this. She always looks at America with the glasses on, and she's like this (camera view doesn't show). When they're just sitting there, she's like hm, wonder why.
9:59 AM BBT: Cory talks with Cameron outside in the hammock
Cory says he just wants to know what's gonna happen with the Nether region
10:01 AM BBT: Reilly talks with Jag in the storage room
Reilly says Hisam said he'll also ask how you see him fitting in your game moving forward, and he said he just doesn't want to blindside anybody. He's gonna ask those questions. She doesn't even know what to say because if she was him she would get her out
Jag says he doesn't know what to say in that case. He doesn't know what he would do in his situation that doesn't piss him off
10:04 AM BBT: Cirie says she thinks America is too scared. If the others were going to do something, America, she doesn't think she would
Red (??) kinda easy to put up, and then if the backdoor happens, that's the time for the big move. But Hisam's like (??). Speculating until they know the PoV, but they're in good shape right now
10:05 AM BBT: Cameron and Cory continue talking in the hammock
Cameron says he's done trying to figure it out, he has no idea what's gonna happen
Cory says he feels like week one was a crash course, but even still, he can't imagine how hard it is for someone who's never seen the show, but he's just trying to figure out because emotional intelligence is tricky. It's not like you have one level of emotional intelligence. It differs based on who you're talking to. He feels his emotional intelligence talking to one person is amazing, and talking to someone else it's completely different. You start thinking you're great at this but in reality it's just the relationship with the person you're talking to.
10:11 AM BBT: Reilly talks with Cameron in the kitchen
Reilly says she was in the bathroom and Hisam said that today he wants to to everybody and he's gonna ask everybody what they would do in his situation, and how they see themselves moving forward in this game, and how he fits into it
Cameron asks if he said that just to her
Reilly says to her, Bowie, and Mecole, and America. And she's like if she were in his position she would get him out so she has to come up with a plan B
Cameron says time to play
10:12 AM BBT: Red talks with Bowie in the Comic room
Bowie says she said it from day one about him
Red says him too
Bowie says she bets there's a Have Nots competition or something
Red says maybe the Nether has to come back and be a Have Not and choose Have Nots
Bowie says that would be dumb being second though wouldn't it? Or maybe he just chooses
Red says no because that makes the gameplay harder so it's like do I want HOH, do I want because how hard do I play for it
Bowie says for her that was the risky part. If you come second, something's happening. You couldn't really plan that because it was a really tricky, all over the (??) game
Red says for fairness, they're designed like that
Bowie says she liked how they had the script up for that
10:13 AM BBT: Izzy gets in the hammock with Cory outside
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Cory asks Izzy how she's doing
Izzy says she's okay. She needs more sleep in general. She thinks it's starting to catch up with her. She was a little cranky last night and she's not happy with herself about it.
Cory says Mecole sat him down and said aight, here's the rules for the room. Not talking, no talking to her, no looking at anyone. In the morning you can give her a phrase. No sentence, no question. (laughs)
Izzy says Mecole hates the morning
...
Cory says he's just really excited to have the conversation because there's been a lot of talking but just being able to be full yopen about position and where they're at. Because for the first time in this game most people feel a little bit of clarity about who their people are.
Izzy agrees
Cory says just the proximity of it all makes him really happy. Being next to Mecole and being downstairs. That being said, it was Jared, Hisam, and Luke upstairs.
Izzy says she feels like for her it'll be really good to get upstairs, but she's sad about it
Cory says the first couple days of Have Not you can view as an experience then you have to get through the other days. Even at Vanderbilt, he always felt way more comfortable around... his roommates were the nerdiest nerds of the nerds, and outside of that he usually hangs out around the women on campus. He thinks, he's lucky, he would never characterize himself as someone who's been bullied. He just feels like those are not his people. They're doing pullups in the hallway, and obviously coming in here, you se Luke and Matt. He talked to Luke a little bit and he was like this is honestly what he thought, but then he talked to Matt and it was like wait this is not what he thought. What a cool dude. So obviously you don't want to judge people on appearance like that, but he was very uneasy, but it really hasn't been a problem
Izzy says being in it, makes her feel a type of way about herself that she doesn't feel outside
Cory asks if she thinks self deprecating helps or hurts. He does it a lot
Izzy says she thinks it doesn't help. Doing what she does she has to be confident. There's no way she could be a perofrmer without being confident. And she feels that when holding he rflute, but part of this experience for her is trying to find out who she really is without that, because she's defined her entire life and identity around being a musician and flutist. And it's hard and she's tired and she wants to get married nad have a life, so she wants to stand on her own two feet, figuring out who she is without that.
Cory says the idea of needing to be confident, he gets it, but for him, his confidence is never gonna derive from those bi-laterals. Especially when he feels he makes fun of himself in these kinds of flaws, he builds confidence in another way. He thinks he's good at trying to talk and trying to be witty
Izzy says her too, but it's funny because in her inside, she wishes she wasn't so nervous to workout here. She works out at home. She thought that would be her way in. Now it's like she doesn't know if she could do it
Cory says he did it for one day, and he kept saying his form was wrong over and over again, and he was like bro everyone knows how to do this except him. Because even at the gym he uses machines. But he thinks that's just a him problem where he just has to get over it, work out
Izzy says her too, but she'll never do it unless
Cory asks if she wants to have their own little work out area. He thinks the vibe would be different. No gymtimidation
Izzy says yeah they could do that.
Cory says he's excited for this week. He's excited to figure out this Nether bullsh**
[Feeds cut]
Cory asks Izzy if she can believe that Blue told him to do that
Izzy says why would she think he and her are tight like that. That's the unawareness that kills her
Cory says he doesn't want people to think he's playing the middle, because on that side, here's his conversations. Talk to Reilly as you can imagine early in the week, and he made his thoughts very clear on that. He's forever in debt on one angle, and she's also playing a game in this way, and that's not... He thinks she was getting after the two of them (Izzy and Hisam) and that's not gonna...
Izzy says she was
Cory says so that was never gonna be a thing. And then there's, obviously she knows he talked a lot with Cam, but they've talked about him enough. Then Blue, he had a chat with day 2 about "this is so fun, whatever whatever". Talked to Jag about special olympics, talked to America about nothing ever. It feels like he should connect with America because they're both superfans
Izzy says that's the only thing America will talk about with her, and she's just like can we move on
Cory says he feels like they're more awkward conversations and they just don't have that type of chemistry, which is okay. THe thing is to not talk to him for so long in week 1, and then deploy him at the start of week 2
Izzy says to her it's like, you really think you're playing this game, that is so unaware
Cory says he thinks she thinks she's being very savvy
Izzy says yeah but why would he be her tool
Cory says because she wants to share the room with her friends, and then she wants the fringe friend
Izzy says it's so funny
Cory says it's just so funny because she's just whispering at the start, and then he just walks over to Cirie. Because he's really not trying to be like yo Blue damn, I can't believe HIsam won this, aw man, adn go over to Hisam and be like nice job Hisam
Izzy says kind of like they're being. They're seething right now. They're boiling
Cory says they went to bed early
Izzy says even though they're for sure didn't want to win
Cory says there's no way
Izzy says she thinks Cameron threw it
Cory says Cameron being out first surprised him a lot, and also he thinks Cameron would feel confident enough
Izzy says he has to help her with Cameron. How does she not be so mad at Cameron all the time? It's gonna be her downfall. It was her downfall last night
Cory says he thinks any coldness he had toward her is more because yesterday she let it go a little bit
Izzy says she knows. She has to talk to him today, but she hates it
Cory asks if she wants him to talk to Cameron for her at all because Cameron's a very diplomatic guy and he doesn't know if it's a masculinity thing. It is like a you tell him what to do, he gets very defensive.
Izzy says her thing is then why does he get to do it to her. That's why she boils up. Her and Cirie talked about it last night. She needs to...
Cory says he can hear so much of what she says but he needs to try so hard. Most o fit is like "bro, I just want to go to sleep" and he didn't realize Scramble room just how thin those walls are. So he just wants to say America's right there, just be careful. And he knows she knows that, but in terms of the content of what they talked about, he didn't get much but she's also closer.
Izzy says you can hear that they're talking
Cory says yes, the whispering he can hear
Izzy says good to know
Cory says look she knows that he's just running back to the other side telling them everything she said cause he's a spy. And that's the truth. That's the fact of the matter. He's one of those where
Izzy says he's really the only one that she truly struggles with. There's people here that she probably wouldn't be friends with outside of the house but it's not a problem. But Cameron
Cory says the last thing he wants to do is be like "Dude, I can't belive that guy, I would never"
Izzy says she has to do better. She has to talk to him today. She just has to suck it up
Cory says of everyone here, he thinks Cameron's the one who's a little chaotic. He's been a little chaotic, and he truly is glad if Cameron threw it because he thinks he would've been fine but he doesn't know what Cameron would have done. He doesn't know if he was planning on it
Izzy says but now they're gonna suffer the consequences of not winning
Cory says he thinks way more of them threw it than should have. He doesn't think Matt and Jag threw it, but Blue was out immediately. He doesn't think America threw it. America talked to him last night like hey. First game conversation beyond "Yo, you memorizing the seven things?", and she's like "How do you feel", and he thinks they're like since he was in the Humiliverse with Hisam and Jared, that he's an in. Which is hilarious because all of a sudden he's, in their eyes, useful, and he's really not. He's just trying to... That's the best part about being HOH si you can have all those conversations without being suspicious as to why, because you have to have those conversations. That's why last week one of his favorite conversations was with Reilly up there because it was fully transparent. Everyone knew why he was walking in there. He wanted to get off the block, and that was it. Everyone's gonna have their goals in the conversations today
Izzy says yeah, she's very curious to know what's goin gon
Cory says he's just curious when they'll see something pop up on the screen like Nether region or Nominations today or faces
Izzy says she wants to hear from Jared today
Cory says it seems like he can turn it on
They talk about Sam from BB20
Cory says his full theory is that he thinks it's gonna be 4 nominees, and he takes down two, and the two people he does take down are punishments. Hisam nominates four, Jared takes down two, and those people are leotard. Because he thinks the Nether region is not gonna be super...
[Feeds switch to the kitchen]
Jared appears in the screen on the memory well
Jared says "yo"
Everyone goes inside
Jag asks Big Brother to turn it up more because Matt can't hear it
Felicia asks if he can see them
Jared says yeah he can see all of them, but the people on the right side of Reilly, he really can't see them
Felicia and America move over
Jared see Felicia
Felicia says that's her boy
Jared says he hasn't slept on a bed yet, and asks Hisam if he's entered the room yet
Hisam says he did, next time it's Jared
Jared asks who's in the Have Not room right now
They say nobody
Someone says he's doing it right now
Jared says no he's not about to do it right now. He just wanted to say he loves them. He's really not sure when he'll see them again
Felicia asks if they're letting him eat
[Feeds cut]
Jared leaves
Bowie shows Matt where the speakers are for next time
The houseguests go back into the backyard
10:41 AM BBT: Hisam talks with Izzy and Cirie in the backyard
Hisam says he wants to get all the Professors together. He wants to chat with the house and then get a consolidation so they can make a good informed decision for all of them
10:52 AM BBT: Cory goes to the HOH room with Hisam
Hisam says he's gonna start this conversation by telling him he is an incredibly important puzzle piece. What he decides will utlimately decide the course of this game, and he's trying to get his perspective on where his thoughts are, what he's thinking. He was very close to winning as well, what were his thoughts about nominations. What he's going to promise him, which he knows doesn't happen in this game, but he hopes he can see his character. He's not gonna share what he says with other people. THis is between them, so he can trust him and they can have an open dialogue so he can make an informed critical decision. And he thinks as someone who's smart, he would appreciate this. So what are his thoughts?
Cory: First of all congrats. I think, and one thing I know about you, bullsh***ing you does nothing, so I'm just gonna lay it out. Here's the people I feel great about. If I won HOH, here's what I think I would've done. Upstairs, you know how I feel about Jared, and everything that happens, that I want nothing more than for him to come in the house to hang out with him and continue talking to him. That's my guy
Hisam: Did you say he's you rnumber one?
Cory: I think, it's not been a final two
Hisam: But you have a good relationship with him. You trust him
Cory: We all each other Ceezy (?) and Pooh. So, I love him. I love Izzy to death. We've talked a lot more. In the firs tthree days, we didn't talk at all because , you remember Comics room vs. there. It was a little difficult. We mad ea good effort to go down there and talk to everyone. It took a while but she's someone I connect with super hard and during the competition we're telling each other like ... I think this might even annoy Cirie, and I try not to, I'm a big fan of hers, and as a person, it doesn't surprise me so that's like people I have talked the most kind of candidly gamewise with. Meme on a personal level, I just love her to death, and sharing a room enxt to her, she's hilarious. So that's a person who I would never. Never is a strong word because eventually numbers run out but like
Hisam: You feel good with her uh huh
Cory: so if I won HOH, and this is the hard part because obviously not so long ago, Reilly, I was in this room and I was trying to get off the block. And in that conversation, I truly believed, I was like well look if she takes me off the block I owe her, and I still feel that way, but every indication I've gotten from her and the people around her, because I haven't had much trust in Matt and Jag but like I think she's pretty open with Jared, and Jared's pretty open with me, and I don't think that she's asking him to keep a secret right? It seems like she would be going after a... she's 'alittle nervous about you and Izzy
Hisam: She told me. I confronted her on that
Cory: And I talked about it with Izzy because, obviously I talked more game with Izzy than I did with you. Like that is non-negotiable for me. Like I Wouldn't consider myself this super protective person but if you're someone I think is protecting me, I'mgoing to protect you. So as for the exact nominatinos, I think I have these conversations and feel out Jag and Matt, America, Blue, and my gut would say it would land somewhere like maybe Jag and America or someone
Hisam: I notice you didn't say Cameron. Why didn't you say Cameron?
Cory: I feel like Cameron's been all over the place, and we'vehad a lot of conversations. I thought he was in that core liek Reilly, Jag, Cameron, and then he's downstairs talking to everyone and like trying to protect Reilly and Matt but also he's distancing himself as hard as he can. That's a guy who I think he's the only person in this house who I can definitely say, I don't trust. In the sense of like, obviously I don'thave this deep level of trust with everyone
Hisam: Does he make you nervous?
Cory: Yeah, he makes me very nervous but I do feel candidly if he wins HOH, I'm not going on the block. So it's one of those things where like is it a problem? I think everyone with eyes can see it's a problem. Personally I just don't see it as. If he won HOH I'd be like okay, I have no idea what's gonna happen but probably not me or, probably not like JAred or someone like that
Hisam: Let's fast forward to next week. Let's say you say Reilly, Reilly basically leaves, then what. Who are your targets then?
Cory: I think it would, cause the one person on that side who I really have no relationship with is Jag
Hisam: Okay
Cory: And the thing about him that, scares is probably the wrong word. He's so, he's such an incredibly good pure person, so clearly intelligent, I just know that like if he gets far enough, it's gonna be really hard to remove him from this game. Because I would never want to vote out Jag. I had one conversation with that guy, I was like that's, I wanna be best friends with him, and I still do but until we have the conversation where "I'm looking out for you, you're looking out for me" I'm sure he's having that with other people, right?
Hisam: Were you in the room when Reilly had the conversation about putting me and Izzy on the block?
Cory: No
Hisam: How did you find out about that?
Cory: I found out about that first via Reilly who came up to me and said "Yo, who told Hisam that it was Izzy and him" and in my head I'm just thinking Cameron. That was my instinct because the way Reilly's been treating me, again, she took me off the block, I'm very grateful for that
Hisam: But you know longer feel ilke you have to protect her
Cory: no, I don't feel like that but almost moreso I almost feel like I"m being kept, like she's got me. She's like yeah Cory's not gonna do anything to me, which is how I felt for quite a while. So that is where I got that peice
Hisam: How do I fit into your mid game
Cory: Final what, what are we talking?
Hisam: Midgame is like between jury and final six
Cory: So final 11 to final six. I'm trying to think because I haven't... Like I've been thinking far ahead but not specifics
HIsam: This is right before we get to jury right, so once the jury starts to happen
Cory: I'm trying to figure out whow ouldbe in the house because the simplest way to think about it
Hisam: If the two of us are in the house, how do I figure into it?
Cory: I can imagine a path forward. Because it's all about having these different paths and whichever one is best for all of us right. I can see you, me, JAred, Cirie, Izzy path. Because I know you get along really well with them, and I feel like it's a nice... physically it's kind of strong, mentally super strong. Obviously I didn't, this is kind of off the cuff
Hisam: I think that's a reasonable group of people
Cory: And I know you get along with them. So that would be my instincts. Do you think?
Hisam: I think that's very reasonable actually. And I'm also, the stuff that I talk to you about here is also confidential. It's also important that we do not go around sharing all of this information, right? Because we are trying to make some decisions and then obviously they have huge ramifications for everyone's game
Cory: And I wanna be candid with you because I know you're gonna hvae a lot of conversations with other people. Remember when we had that conversation out there at the um. It was the conversation where hey we haven't spoken since day one, cna we talk, and it was a little bit of an awkward conversation right? After that conversation I went up to Matt and Reilly and wa sjust like a little bit nervous, and aws just like hey I talked to Hisam and he wins HOH, do you think eh would go after me, and they were basically saying no no, I think he would go after me
Hisam: Go after you?
Cory: No they were saying after themselves. I just want to be very open about that. I don't want to hide anything. It didn't go like yo I'm gonna take out Hisam
Hisam: But you were in the alliance of 8
Cory: Yes. I was pulled in. So it was funny, when nominations happened, it popped up like today, Nominations Today, and like she was getting called to the DR, she yanks me in, gives me a hug, and says "You're good", and that's when I think Cirie and Izzy looked at me and Jared as like the people who were pulled in the latest, and I think that's when my game really started in terms of like I could see the path forward. The path I wanna go forward and then Cameron I think just caused a lot of chaos and shook everything up, but that doesn't change that much for me because I still got, my people are still my people. It's not like Cameron is building up an army. He's got his friends but that's about it. So when you talk about the midgame, that's like the barrier to the midgame is when is that dealt with
Hisam: The Cameron situation. And you're close to Cameron
Cory: I talk a lot with Cameron. he's a guy who, final 13, final 12
Hisam: Okay, youi're not that close. You're socila but not close. You're not talking game, you're not strategizing
Cory: I feel like I'm talking a lot to him
Hisam: Because I'm gonna ask Cameron the same thing, just so you know
Cory: Go for it. And me and Cameron's conversations, I think we talk a lot of game, but I think what he does which I think si part stategic, maybe part just how he is, is tries to tell the same thing to everybody so they all like when they talk to each other have the same report. So I don't think I'm privy to all of Cameron's conversations. I'm trying to get water, my mouth's super dry
Hisam: Okay great. Well anything else you think I should know?
Cory: I think it goes without saying. I win HOH any time soon, you're not someone who would have to worry. If I'm not nominated and I get picked for the veto, if it's part of your plan, for sure. If not I won't be using it. I'm not here to obstruct anything. I know there's a little bit of
Hisam: I think it would be very hard to obstruct something at this point and I think it would be very dangerous for anyone to do that
Cory: And I know
Hisam: And I think you're a smart person
Cory: I am
Hisam: You're a smart person. You were out in the yard and we were just talking, right? So I know that you are aware right? I know you heard everything
Cory: I'm here to help this week
Hisam: Yeah so I know you heard everything right? And I would not share any of that information with anybody
Cory: I'm not going to, and here's the thing like I know there's a little bit of unease and it's fair between me and Reilly and me and Cameron and I can promise if it's a situation where like I win the veto and Reilly's on the block, she will be staying on the block.
Hisam: Would you change the nominations?
Cory: No. I would talk to you
Hisam: Okay. I appreciate it. Thank you so much. That's everything I needed to know. And this stays between us. Yes? Okay, very good
Cory: Enjoy the other ones. I feel like you got a lot. Do you want me to grab someone?
11:05 AM BBT: Hisam talks with Cameron in the HOH room
Hisam: Good to see you. Good to see you. Come on in. Sit anywhere you want. So Cameron, it's nice to see you here. So tell me how are things going. How is your game going? Sort of, what are your thoughts?
Cameron: Well you know (??) were just talking about this. It's really nice to have you here. And it was immediately apparent. You didn't gather us but we immediately gathered around you in the kitchen and you were like here's how this is gonna be when I'm ehre, and I was like oh my God, what a breath of fresh air. Considering the stuff you and I have talked about over the last couple of days where it's like let's just f***ing please. Take a breath and just be happy that we're here. And we know we love each other, let's just back of ffor a second. First of all man, you're handling this thing already with amazing grace so thank you for puttin gthe house at ease. Gmae wise, interesting. It was a really rough week on all fronts. I know that I went through my share of tears, and I know that you know that, and it makes me feel good that I can open up with anyone like you and Cirie and mama, just to be me. And it feels really good. Where i"m from we don't get to do that a whole bunch. Cowboys don't cry. Daddy don't cry. So being able to just be accepted like that nad be loved was really nice. And the fact you guys allowed me to come over and just be with you guys, no matter the circumstance or what it is I'm doing, I'm just really thankful for that. I just don't know what to talk about other than just like
Hisam: Let me sort of preface this. Everything I say to you, I hope will stay confidential, and everything you say to me, I can promise you, as you can see from my character, will stay confidential. I am not gonna go around spreading like Cameron said this, Cameron said that. That is not gonna happen. Now, you are in control of your own actions. If you decide that you want to do that, that will automatically demonstrate your character and obviously the way I play this game you know sort of like how I would feel. I am concerned that you basically told me that Reilly has mentioned my name. Not that you told me, I'm glad you told me, but I'm concerned about Reilly. And that's just straight up who I'm concerned about. She is the only person that's basically said and mentioned the target so early in the game and that target happens to be my name. Which is a really uncomfortable as a player in this game. And so I'm sort of moving this direction of who are my threats, and Reilly has already told me she's my threat. My concern about you is that I think, when you told me you were huffle puff, and then I thought about Stevie your daughter, and then I was thinking abotu the conversation we had where you were like I feel like I need to protect her, like you are your daughter, and the fact that like yes I trust you. Like I totally trust you, but at the same time I'm sort of getting this like weird mixed message kind of thing, right? And especially in a gaem where there's a lot of paranoia and suspiciousness and who's talking to who and what's happening, and the fact that Reilly's been so overt about wanting me out to multiple people. She's no tbeen subtle about that, right? She's been very clear, and she's currently on a witch hunt to figure out who told me, right? She is literall yon that witch hunt, right? And I just heard that from several people that Reilly has come up to them to figure out who leaked the information. Because I confronted her because I'm not a child, right? I'm like we are adults. You said my name, I'm gonna tell you. You said my name. Which basically makes this like, why you would do this in week 2? I have no crazy. That's crazy to me. That's crazy talk. Typically in this game there are peripheral players and those are the ones the whole house agrees on. Then we move into midgame like reasonable adults right?
Cameron: Supposed to be. We thought we knew how to do this
Hisam: This game got crazy really fast right? And so the one reluctance I have with you, just to be honest. I trust you but there are some people tha ti"m working with that are a little concerned, and you understand that right? And I just fear that like if Reilly were on the block and does not win veto that you would save her, right? And I think that has everything to dow ith character. Because what ends up happening is there's character and gameplay, and I know you're gonna choose your character.
Cameron: So here's the thing, and this is why it was so emotional for me. Why I broke down with Cirie and waterfalls, and this is why I had to take a moment for mysel fbefore I even talked to anybody about it is because I knew what had to happen. I knew what's going to happen and I know that there's no way that I can protect her. No way that I can save her because we came here to play this game, right? We came here to build relationships and move forward as far as we can, and soak up the experience and (??). Now the feelings I have for her of course I recognize them within myself and I knew immediately that this is not good. I can' tset myself with trying to protect somebody, specifically a person that's already come out and said I have a problem here, I have a problem there. Here's a name. There's a name. There' sonly so much that I could do so any of the things I've done since our conversations have started was to try to save not her game but just let people know who she is, and now it's like I"ve done it, here we go, and I have to tell you from solid perspective. You know you said Red trusts me, and if there's something that I have to do to make sure that everythign stays the same, I will choose the game. I will choose the fact that you took trust in me, like when we were on the bikes down there with you and Bowie and you said we come together and we talk this thing out, we're for real, everyone has an opinion, everyone's opinion matters, and we talked things out, and feeling as if I'm getting the warm and fuzzy about getting brought into that circle, I wouldn't do anything to jeopardize that.
Hisam: Yeha and I don't wanna jeopardize the trust that we are building, right? Or the trust that we have. I wanna be really clear about that. The reason I'm bringing this to your attention is that there are just in some of those conversations, people felt a little like, he's trying to protect Reilly, and what I"ll say is although that may have been your intention, that is not how it read, right? And like what I am trying to do is also make everybody understand that you are with us.
Cameron: Yes
Hisam: And that you're on our side and that you're competing on our side, right?
Cameron: Even furthermore i feel like I'm still in a tryout, earning trust period, so it's even a bigger deal to me. It's not that I'm just like okay I'm competing with these guys, I'm running with them. Moreso, it's like I know that i'm on shaky and I have to earn some stuff from people
Hisam: And what I'll tell you is that, right now, if you look at the house, and you're not stupid, we have all of the numbers to basically decide literally who will walk out the door
Hisam: The only thing that can save anyone in this game right now is winning veto. Which is a little bit unusual so early in the game. This normally happens at the end. And so what I'm saying to you is that like you know one of the things that I'm considering, cause I don't blindside people, right like that is a thing about me. Is that I'm considering putting you and Reilly next to each other
Cameron: Oh my God
Hisam: Right? And the reason I'm considering it, so you know why I'm thinking it, si because like you can' tprotect her, and I really wanna put it obvious that like he's on our isde, he's not gonna protect her. We can trust him, and also, for Reill ynot to put you in a position, emotionally where you're gonna have to decide
Cameron: Yep. That's big of you. It's a tough gamble and I'd hate to be on the block but
Hisam: Right, cause i actually think that would be really sh***y for you, and honestly think with how much you love your daughter Stevie, and how sensitive you have been, I actually believe that would be like a Sophie's choice for you. I think that would be really hard
Cameron: I mean I think that what it would do is you would save me from having to seem like an awful person, even though I know what I would choose. I know where i would go with it. I know what would happen
Hisam: But I can guarantee you, my target, 100%, without a doubt, is Reilly. And it's Reilly because Reilly has named my name to everybody and has told everybody she wants me out. Right? And that is like my number one only threat in this house. And my hope is as we move forward, we can play a game that's like really good. Right? And not so like emotionally driven and like screw that guy. I was like, "you don't even know me". And I think it would be helpful for us to start that way. But those are my considerations. I just want to let you know, I don't blindside anybody. I'm not trying to blindside Reilly. I believe everybody has the right to compete. Reilly has mentioned my name
Cameron: I mean from a game standpoint, I mean, I still have ties on that side, so I still have their ear, and the fact that you would put both of us would put me in a good position to be able to continue to hear what they're thinking and saying. So not as if I'm trying to be a spy or anything but
Hisam: But know this, if it comes back we're all in the seven, you're sharing information, then know if Reilly pulls her up
Cameron: It goes one way
Hisam: Then you're going away
Cameron: Yeah no it goes one way
Hisam: So just be aware that if that happens then people are gonna be like he's untrustworthy
Cameron: Putting both of us up together is something I kind of anticipated moving into this because I know who you are, and I know that's something you would be taking a weigh toff of my shoulders
Hisam: And honestly that's how I was feeling about it
Cameron: And I would trust you guys. I mean I trust Red
Hisam: And here's what I'll tell you. You will hear from me. You are not my target. I wanna work with you. I trust you, but I just don't want this weird thing to happen where all of a sudden your emotions, because you see Stevie's eyes in her to change your mind
Cameron: I'm through it now. I'm through it now
Hisam: Okay
Cameron: I mean it's one o fthose things that why I was emotional because I knew then where the dominos were gonna fall. I knew it was gonna come to this. Sooner than anyone had anticipated, and that's why I was so emotional so quickly. Cause I knwe that i had to make the deciison, and that's when I came to talk to you and Red and Izzy and everyone else
Hisam: I'm glad you came over this way. Cause you're a strong competitor, and I really think we can work together to get to midgame, and once we get to midgame, we can figure out what's gonna happen to endgame, but part of this is just like the stages of this game. And the truth of the matter is there are a group of people I want to take to the midgame and I wanna be against strong competitors in midgame, and I don't want to be eliminated too soon. Does that make sense?
Cameron: No, absolutely
Hisam: Okay. Questions?
Cameron: I don't have any that I have
Hisam: Alright brother. I respect you so much
Cameron: Thank you so much man. This is going to be an interesting week again, but it's going to be smooth
Hisam: Know that I have you. If you are on the block you are not going anywhere
Hisam: Given the fact that nominations are today and I decision will happen soon, I just wanna sort of like cut to the chase. Now one of the things i will tell you and I am promising everyone in this room. What you say will stay between me and you. I will not talk to anyone else, no matter who I'm working with. Our information is our information. And I hope the same is reciprocal. That you're not gonna basically share anything that I say with you to anyone else. The reason that's important is I'm trying to make a really educated smart decision, about sort of how to move forward in this game. How to protect myself and also who am I going to work with. Right? So I know about the eight person alliance, right? I'm aware that basically Reilly had mentioned that I was her target. I'm aware that basically she was considering putting up Izzy next to me
Jag: Okay
HIsam: So all o fthat is known information. I confronted Reilly on it. Reilly basically says that that is actually true. What was your part in that?
Jag: My part in the eight person alliance?
Hisam: What was your part in that and the decision about me and Izzy
Jag: Um, okay, cool. Uh the part in the alliance is I think it was just kind of split up. Me and Reilly as you can probably tell. I'm really close with her, I think she's really fun and so I think right off the bat it was just gauging vibes and starting to chat with people and that was a group that wanted to work together., so it sort of just brought into that so I was like okay cool like
Hisam: The core was you, Reilly, Matt, Blue
Jag: No
Hisam: Who was the core?
Jag: What do you mean?
Hisam: Like the core group of people who started forming the alliance
Jag: Um, Reilly and I were chatting. Blue as well. Matt, Cameron. I think it was a collective...
Hisam: It just sort of happened
Jag; It happened. Like I wouldn't say it's a core because I definitely wasn't like these are all the people. It was sort of a lot of it was I think chats that Reilly was having with people
Hisam: You were kind of just all in the same place at the same time and (??)
Jag: It was sort of, there were definitely some folks that I didn't chat with or didn't feel close with cause like I've chatted with you about I wanna make sure, you know, I get to know everyone in all of that, figure out who I'm working with. You know that. And I think you're playing a similar game. You wanna actually get to know people too. And it just sort of became, hey these are the folks that in the group people feel comfortable iwth so I was jus tin that. There are some folks in there that I'm less close to
Hisam: Who are you less close to?
Jag: Cory, I haven't chatted with him too much and he was not someone even at the time that I had too many conversations with , but he was jus tmentioned nad i was lik eokay cool . If this is what it is, I don't want to nix myself out of this. And that's something that I have been very clear and very open with everybody in that alliance and if you chat with anyone this will be 100% true is that I would not put you up. If I win, I would not put you up, and you would no tbe my target. So that has been clear since day 1.
Hisam: You would feel comfortable with me checking that fact
Jag: You can check that fact
Hisam: Okay
Jag: You can check that fact. That's something I was very clear about. I was clear with Reilly about that as well. Yeha, you can check that
Hisam: Did Blue says that she wouldn't target me because I was part of the LGBT community?
Jag: Yeah
Hisam: She did said that
Jag: She did yeah. So I know Blue felt, Blue has he rvalues, and I have the same, you know. And we had that chat abou tour identities, our background, tha tmeant something to me, that meant a lot to me
Hisam: It meant a lot to me too, when we had our conversation in the gym, that meant a lot to me. It made me really tearful later. IT was such a hard time.
Jag: So that is. That's where I'm at with that. You arwe not my target. You won't be my target. I think that comes beyond game. THey are my values and even the chat we had yesterday. The chats we've had throughout this week, it's been a crazy week but no matter what is happening, that's hwere I'm at. THis whole thing that you're mentioning about brown on brown crime, or us getting pitted against each other, I never want that to happen
Hisam: Neither do I. Which is I said in the bathroom. IN the bathroom I said there has to be a way that we work together not against each other
Jag: Yes
Hisam: Because they want to split brown on brown people so I'm like really mindful about that. And to be very clear with you now. You are not my target. I am not putting you on the block
Jag: I appreciate that
Hisam: And I'm true to my word, right? And all I can do is hope that you are true to your word, which I believe
Jag: Yes
Hisam: So there are some things that are more important in this game to me, and that is really important because I do not want a narrative to be spun that brown on brown people can not get along. Especially after 9/11 where we were pitted against each other. IT was a nightmare. Okay so moving forward in your game, of your alliance members, who do you think is dangerous, who would you put up knowing, and I'm also gonna say this to you , and I don't want you to share this with her, but I'm not gonna put Blue up because we're part of the same LGBTQ community and it's similar to you. I don't want brown on brown crime and I'm not gonna put a community member on the line, on the block. So this is very (??) to me. So you have this other collective group of people right? Who are you thinking about? What's your relationship with Reilly, what's your relationship with Cameron? Matt, like what are your thoughts?
Jag: Yeah, uh, what I'll say is, sort of what i said at the beginning. I feel great about Reilly so, and I trust her. I think she's a loyal player and she means what she says in everything, and so I do trust her. I really, I love Blue as well
Jag: I think about folks in that eight that sort of got clumped and um, what it boils down to is just who have I not had the time as much to connect with
Hisam: So that's Cameron, Cory, Jared
Jag: Um, for me, mostly it's Cory. I've had chats with Cameron and Jared more, I would say. And this is just. You know I don't wanna throw anyone under the bus. I'm not trying to
Hisam: This is listen, we are playing a game, and we are being honest, and we are being candid, right? And we are being candid
Jag: Right, and I trust you, and I think, I think you're really trustworthy. I honor your integrity. I respect your integrity. I think you're someone really honorable but yeah
Hisam: Question. Reilly has been talking about my name. How serious is that?
Jag: It was mentioned once to me. I don't know how... I have not heard at all since that it is serious. It's something that she wants to pursue at all. When it was mentioned, I took a stance where I said I will not put Hisam up if I'm HOH. And that was sort of the conversation with me. So there's not really leeway to discuss with me will I... that is my stance
Hisam: Yeah, and that's been my stance. I was like Jag does not go up for me. Blue does not go up for me
Jag: ANd that's something that, to me it doesn't matter if it's me and Reilly chatting. That's my stance. And that's not the stance I took to be like oh hey everybody look I'm such a loyal guy, this is what I said. That's who I am.
Hisam: So help me out with this. So we get to the point where Reilly is on the block. Because she mentioned my name. It would not be unreasonable for her to be there right?
Jag: Yeah
Hisam: You win the veto. Then what?
Jag: This is what I'll say. That would be really tough for me. I would like to use it on her, but I'm here to work with you. That would be a conversation with you.
Hisam: Yeah if you win the veto and you take her off, what do you think will happen to your game?
Jag: That's why I'm saying that's a conversation with you, right? It would be a what is your goal of the week
Hisam: So I'll be clear. I'm not gonna lie to anybody, and I'm not gonna lie to Reilly. Reilly's thrown my name. She tells people she wants me out. She's mentioned it several times. She's told several people. It would be crazy for me not to go after her. This would be
Jag: Just gameplay, right
Hisam: Yeah, this would be terrible Big Brother playing. I basically allow the person who's like, and here's what I'll tell you. Nobody else has mentioned anyone else's names
Jag: Right
Hisam: Right? She's the only person who's mentioned names. It would be crazy of me not to consider her a viable threat to my game and my longevity here. And anyone who would protect her in that
Jag: Stands in the
Hisam: Stands in the way of my moving forward. And that's not a selfish thing, that's just pure gameplay. And so what I would say is looking at the numbers right now. The numbers look like whoever ends up there, a majority can be formed to move someone out without question
Jag: So what I"ll say to that is clearly, as I've shared with you, I'm close with Reilly. I really like her. I think she has a good personality and everything. I 100% want to work with you. I at no point want to burn any bridge. You're someone that's really important to me in this game. I'm really glad that you're here and there are values that I hold really close to my heart that I see in you that you resemble, and so that's why I say it depend son what you want to happen that week. If I win the veto that week and you say I want you to use it, because whatever your plans are. It's a crazy game. Then
Hisam: Yeah, and here's what I"ll tell you. I don't believe in backdooring people. I think it's as really sh***y way of someone leaving. I think that you should play. I don't believe in that
Jag: And if you say hey, I win veto you say hey, I want you to keep noms the same, 100% This is your HOH, and I want to be as crystal clear as possible when I say I want to work with you. I don't want any grey area. I don't want when I leave this conversation or you're sleeping at night thinking "man, I don't know about Jag. I don't know if he's honest when he says he wants to work with me" because the way I see it is we are both very willing to work with each other and I, at this point, what I've been thinking i want to chat with you as well, is if we're in this position where we ant to work with each other or at that level, I would love to actually form something. Give it a name. do something where we have our Big Brother moment
Hisam: Right. And we should definitely as we move forward through this week. I will know more at the end of this week, and the truth of the matter is I'm still learning you as you're still learning me. And the truth of the matter is I wanna trust you. Id o trust you just on the level that we are brown boys, and I do not want brown on brown crime, and I said that even before winning because I ebelive that. Whether I win or not win, you have my word. And that's sort of how I'm looking at this. At the end of this week, I will know more about where everybody stands and who's working with who, as the house shakes up again
Jag: I agree with that. I think as things are happening. Here's what it is. Last week everyone knows was such an up in the air sh** show and I feel like yeah I think people were clumped into groups and like I said, it's not that he eight of us were the folks that I personally was like this is the person that I feel closest to, and so I would love to build something around values, which I know might be tough because I don't know how stuck people will feel in whatever the divide was.
Hisam: I think things are still very flexible. I'm still very flexible in the sense that I was like, but of course you know when there's an in group there's an out group. And so in order to survive, the out group ahs to come togethr giht? SO I think things are still very flexible. Thi is very long game. We are less than 10% of the way in. There is still a lot of time for things to change and adjust, and grow, and alter, which is why I'm having this conversation with you now because I'm hoping that you and I will be moving together as we move through midgame and endgame. It would be fantastic to see two brown boys moving forward in the game and not pitted against each other. That's very important to me
Jag: 100%
Hisam: Right?
Jag: Yeah. So that's, I think we'r eon the same page. And something I would love, maybe not right now because I know you have a million things you have to chat with everyone, btu at some point I want to figure out a way to work together where it's based on values with folks. And I think that is important to me becauseif I'm in this game I don't want it to be dictated by well these are just the folks that other people felt closestt to and now this is now and the group that I'm hanging out with in the first day and a half or two days or three. You know what I mean?