Kenua and Vince, he wants to keep Vince. If it's Zacha nd Keanu, he wants to keep Zach. he really loves Zach. He needs ot see what everyone else is doing. He just needs ot see what's going on
Lauren says she had a conversationw ith Keanu. He thinks that she's gonna keep anyone over him which she's probably gonna do. He thinsk he has the votes to stay 100%. He was like if she votes against him, that's a perfect reason to put her on the block
Rylie says he doesn't think Keanu know swhat the fuck. He thinks he's right about everything. Not only that. HE loves him on a personal levle but his game play is completely sloppy as fuck. You say one thing to him he's gonna tell somebody else. That's why eh tries to listen when Keanu tries to talk to him, he doesn't talk to him. People said they wanted him to stay for some reason
Lauren say she doesn't understand. She knows he's a shield and an easy renom but at what point are they gonna stop playing dfense. If he rides to the end his redemption story is the perfect sotry to win 750. She'd vote for him if he made it to the end after being a pawn and being a compbeast and making it through even if he's on the block on eviction night. That's crazy
the only thing he's won is vetoes. He's a veto beast. HE doesn't do in HOH comps, blockbuster
Lauren says he's never done blockbuster
Rylie says the only thing he's done is veto. So. He doesn't see Keanu as a threat. He sees him as, these were easy vetoes he won. He's gotten lucky. People see him as alittle more than what he is because of what he's done in a short amount of time, but he is a shield and that's ?? look at. People do view him as a shield. Liek you said when are poeple gonna stop laying defense and start playing offense, that's where he's at right now. To be honest, he doesn't caer. He likes Keanu as a person but he doesn't like him as a gameplayer. So if he's gotta go he's gotta go. He had to go week one. He got Rylie into a lot of trouble talking to her and Kat.
Lauren says the thing about if you take the threat aspect ouf of it, he's played a very messy game and people are making the arugment that he ?? can work with everyone. She's like yeah but if he's a free agent ?? he would do anything to stay. Yeah he could be good potentially but he also coul dbe just as bad
told her to use the veto on him,a nd she didn't. She said she had a good inlking he was gonna stay. She did that she wouldn't know if he'd stay vs renoms, that's what makes him feel like he has her vote.
Vince asks if it was the GBMs, goodbyes
Rachel says no. That was her upstairs session. Aka, the
Feeds switch
Vince asks if she still has the grey streaks in
Rachel says yeah it's pretty bad
Rachel says let's talk
Vince says he just wanted to touch base. It's WEdnesday and it could be his last day. He just wanted to say his biggest regret is getting off on the wrong foot with her
aww
he's sorry he got tothat point and he never wanted the smoke with Rachel or to be on the wrong side with Rachel. He's sorry he got intimidated and that he didn't humanize her as a houseguest with hem. He didn't want to give the impression he was targeting her. He's sorry he should've talked to her more, he gets nervous. What he appreciates also, eh's just bracing himself that it could be his last day, but Keaun said she would consider keeping him in certain scenarios where he was like that makes him feel good
Rachel nods
Vince says he wasn't expecting it
Rachel says she wasn't either
even if it was a consdieration he apprecitates that. If he wins,a nd wins HOH the same day, and he doesn't put her up that's the only thing he can do to prove. He knows he doesn't talk enough still. He knows it's his donwfall, but at the end of hte day if this is his last day, when he watches this back if she was gunning for him or whatever, it genuinely was an honor playing with her, being in the same house as her
now he's just scrambling her eggs (laugh)
he's not. It really has been an honor
thank you
he feels lik ehe' spart of the BB family now. He tried his best. He thinsk she respects that. He thinks he stumbled nad played mor eemiotinoal that he would've liked. But it makes you feel everything so heightened
Rachel agrees
Rachel says she has to tell him
Feeds cut
get hisf oot out of his mouth because the vuilding blocks come with action and he thinks he screwed tha tup with Jimmy. INdecisiveness is not good in this game. He sees how people viewed his indecisiveness. He's not gonna make any promises or bs her, he's just saying it' sbeen fun playing, he might be gone tomorrow, btu if he stays, they'll see what that looks like, and he hopes she respects his efforts if nothing else
she does. She respects he even approached her and said all this because she awsn't sure he was going to
he planned on it. He wasn't sure if yesterday or today. It took its toll on him being frustrated and having to campaign
could be better
could be better too
it was kind of fun to see him play along with them and do the ruh ruh
that's what he wanted, the goofing off
tdetective eggbert. The BB house can get so boring, so it's jus thaving fun and letting loose, sometimes is th ebest you can do. That's why when you have a friend you can have fun with it makes the whol eexperience better. She feels like she got to know him better this week and his personality, even if he's an egg.
he won't keep her long, he didn't know what it was worth to campaign one way or another. He knows she has a decent relationship with both. he can't get a read anymore. Sh'es repared her relationship wtih Keanu. Zach she spent 12 hours with. assumes that was hopefully productive. Even him he got to joke around as a detective. He respects either decisino she makes either way. He'll do his best in blockbusetr tomorrow and see how that plays out. 1 in 3 hance for everybody. He doens't want to rul ehimself out
if he does stya she would like to know him better
she's said that
and not lie to her
he knows. Has he lied since their last conversation
since he told her he was gonna keep JImmy
after that!
she doesn't know. THey've had a lot of lies but it's okay. She htinks this game you have to take every day day by day and if she held on to something she's nto a very good BB player so there you go
right, it is hard to forget but it is easy to forgive so being cautious is what makes sense. Being skeptical about him would only make sense as well, but he tried. He tried to play a decent ame and he dshot himself in the foot nad he thinks the communicaiton was his downfall. Even if his intention was to keep JImmy, if he talked to people and had a seconconver with her and said he's getting a read and doesn't think anyone else is going to, that would'v ebeen a differentiator
she would've respected that
absolutely she would hav eand he would've respected himself more. And he knows he's gonna watch back and have crazy regrets. Julie always asks if you could go back and do it again would you do anything differnet, he doesn't want to be like everything
her and Brendon call that the BB what if game. You can' tplay that game. You can't change anything, you ahve to change going forward. Don't look backward to what you've played. Every day it's a new BB game and you cna play it differently
that's how he's been trying to view this punishment also. It's a staple of the show
this is probably her favorite costume
he loves when people say that
he can even close
he eats lucnh in it sometimes, cameras looking through the hole
and the fact that ??
he doesn't understand. He does want to just have fun. He enjoys being in the same room as her in mutual conversations about whatever. He felt more ocmfortable. The fact it took her 37 days to get to that poin tis embarrassing but they're good. HE feels like he knows who she is as a person just by being in the same house as her as long as they have and he odesn't think he's done a good job of showing who he is as a human being. Remember when she said she doesn't think he is who he says he is. He didn't know what that meant. Personality wise?
she thinks so. She thinks she didn't know him. She feels lik ethis week she got to know him better
if they end up talking so much outside of this house he's gonna be so mad. liek rachel is so cool and he watsed an oportunity to have that inside th whouse
he reminds her of Matt hoffman
he remembers her saying that
they never got to talk aalot intside the house, wer ealways going out, but he's like one of their best friends. she loves that kid
but they were vocally targeting each other
yeah. It was her, him. LIke boom for nor eason. But they became really good friends in jury too
well cool. If he can have any Matt Hoffman redemption arc, he'll take it. But otehrwise that's all he wanted to say. He won't keep her too long. Just say it's been fun, and if he goes out he wanted to make sure he iddn't go out without saying the humanized stuff of having it be a legendary season. 25th anniversary. Rachel's back. Even if he watched back and ?? a feud. There really wasn't a reason. Him to come after her, her to come after him. That's why it's so stupid. Even if he watched back it'd be like if you had a feud with anybody at least it was memorable
Rachel laughs
him vs someone else and nobody remembered it what's the point
they're all trying to playt he best BB game they can
he hopes she doesn't have any ill will toward him
no she doesn't
hope she doesn't view him as a shady weasely piece of crap
no, not at all. don't think of that at all
he doesn't know if he tried to play like too... was he too for himself nad that made him too good with too many people? If he was friends with Keanu adn Morgan and they wanted to go after each other, and he steppe back, does that create the wrong impression
she thinks they're all trying to play the best BB game they can
that's all they can do
it's not easy
Ava's speech it was ?? he guesses he had his hand in ?? but not oo many pots. There were some people ?? eh didn't even have ?? relationship with them. That's almost half the house at this point. There's 13 of them. That's liek 6 or so. Thatnks for hearing him out. If she has any advice for him, he'd love to hear. SHe may have caught on that he may be a bit of a headcase, and he wouldn't want to spiral on not going as far as he'd hoped. So always open for advaice or general thoughts
she thinks he's doing th ebest he can, that' sall you can do
and he can't beat himself up for that
none of them can control what happens in thsi game. You can do your best to maneuver things, but she thinks he's doing a great job. She's glad he's on thsi season. Not saying that like she's gonna vote him out. She doesn't know what she's doing
he doesn't know either
because he said that that's why she's giving him... go spend time with your friends. Hou never know how much time you have in here with your friends. It's so important because you're never gonna be living in the BB house living with these same people. So it's like very moment is something you gotta take
be present
so if you have good friends you might as well spen dall the seconds you can
Vince says and he thinks that's the best thing. People alreayd ave their general ideas. HE knows campaigning helps to ac ertain extent but at the end of the day peopel are gonna do whate's best for their game. Something he's figured out i there's a lot of independent htinkers. Some going with th ehouse, but also people who feel a certain way. Ava had her mind up, indpenendet thinker. NO one on ones. People have their idea, they'll figure out what's best for hteir game. Long term short term ?? he's here, he's an egg
Feeds switch
They leave the lounge
Rachel says you never know (with the blockbuster) what's gonna happen and might stress out over nothing
Vince says that too, that kind of helps hte mindset
Lauren and Rylie continue talking in the HAve Not room
she knows who Zach is cool with but she knows more with Vinny, what Vinny's plans are later on. She feels like
Rylie says she feels stuck
Lauren says yeah. Her and Vinny have a similar way of thinking, whereas Zach, she doesn't know. She's just gonna have to make her decision last minute again
Rylie says him too. He wonders where Morgan's head is at
Lauren says she talked to Mrogan yesterday and Morgan told somebody else something else. That could be her changing her mind
Rylie says he doesn't trust her
Lauren shakes her head
Rylie says he was a name out of her mouth for Jimmy's HOH
Lauren says that's stupid
Rylie says he let her know when JImmy was still here. He said can he be real with her, he heard she wante dhim up as arenom,a nd he would've never said that if they weren't having that congersation but, that's the type of shit. She opened her eyes like yeah she did say that then she pulled him later on and was like she id dsay that. He said he knows she did. He just let her know he knows. She was trying to trip him out too though because she was like she thinks JImmy's been saying a lot of things ?? her game. He was like who is she talking shit about? Is she talking shit about everyone going around? He just doesn't trust her. When he looks at her
Feeds switch
Rylie says just because of all the bullshit he's heard about her running around talking shit. Like Lauren's said, switching up. And he hears hearsay type shit. He doesn't trut her. ANd he doesn't trust that she wouldn't put him or Lauren or KAtehrine up. He trusts she wouldn't put Zach up ever.
Lauren says yeah
Rylie says but he doesn't trust she wouldn't put him, Katherine, or Lauren up
Lauren says she agrees. And anyone that's bad for their game is bad for her game too
Rylie says he doesn't know how Morgan is with her. She tries to pull him a lot more now
she could've pinned them by association but she neer really shares anything. She kinda wishes she wouldn't group them together. Me, you, Zahc,a dn Vinny. And sh was like woha, what?
Rylie says that's what Keanu was doing. Keanu was grouping him with like 9 differnet people. ANd he's going to 9 people and now look, he's got all these people int his house thinking. These 9 people aren't on teh same page as you. He likes her, he thinks she's a sweet person. He doesn't agree with her game. He thinks she's doing too much
Lauren says he agrees
pull too many people, see where too many people's game sare. And sehs' gonna come back and spread some seeds somewhere else. He sees her sitting along with Rachel all the time. he knows Rachel said something about she's not gonna be takien to jury, she's gonna be final three or go home
Lauren says Rachel, she has no idea what Rachel's doing. All she knows is Rachel wants Vinny out
Rylie says yeah. SHe wanted Zach to go too last HOH. So what the fuck does she really want?
Lauren says she doesn't know. That scares her
Rylie says Zach and her were fighting against each other last HOH. Then they had their talk out by the pool and shit. He asks how much ocnfidence she has in Zach to pull her out of situations to fight for her, or how much confidence she has for Vinny. Vinny has nothing to lose
Lauren says that's true
Rylie says Zach might be afraid to piss some people off. Just cause he's associated with a lot of people
Lauren says she definitelys ees that
Rylie says Vinny doesn't give a fuck. He's gonna try to throw anybody up. He doesn't care. Also at the same time he has a chance. If somebody's seen Zach do that they might be like what the fuck, you're fucking everything up. If Vinny did it he doesn't htink they'd see it as that big as both of them together. Liek him, if he does something to piss somebody off, he's not the only one they're coming after, it's Katerhine too. At the same time he's like fuck it, he doesn't care. He's not liek Zach. He plays a pretty good game but when it comes down to it, he lets people know how he feels. He's not gonan fake it and make it as far as he can. He wants to, that' sall he thinks about, using the veto if ?? was on the block. he thinks Vinny would use it with no hestiation
Lauren nods and says yeah she thinks so too
Rylie says no matter who she's sitting next to. He doesn't know if she feels the same about Zach, just because of his other connections
Lauren says she know sexactly what he means. It makes sense
Rylie says he just wants her to have people that, he knows Zach cares about her. He loves seeing that, but he wants to make sure if she's ever on the block is he gonna put himself in that situation if he has to to fight ofr her to stay as well
Lauren says that makes sense
Rylie says and vice versa. Whover she thinks she would, would benefit her game and not hurt her game at the same time. That's just the way he looks at it
Lauren says she appreciates him talking it through to her because it puts it into perspective whien he says it like that
Rylie says it' sa hrd decision
it is
and he doesn't want it to be that hard. He's grown a connectionw tih both of them so it's hard for him too. Vinny since day one. HIm adn Zach were a connection a couple weeks in. But him and Vinny were day one. They talked about life, this game, everything
Lauren says she feels the same way
Rylie says he loves Zach but he doesn't know where he actually stands. He has a lot more connections in this house other than Rylie. He doesn't talk game iwth Zach. He knows Zach talks game with everybody else.
Lauren says he does
Rylie says but also Zach is his fucking boy and he wants to do what he cna to help him. But he loves VInny too. Keanu he doesn't really give a fuck
if Keanu's up there, he'd probably vote against him
Rylie says he thinks Keanu would vote against Zach
Lauren says yeah she was saying if Keanu is up there against Vinny or Zach he would vote against him
Rylie says he thinks so. He loves him to death but his game is gonna get so many peopl ein trouble
...
Rylie says if it's a tie, he doesn't know where her tie vote lies
Lauren says she honestly doesn't know either. She thiks based off past things, she would keep Zach or Vinny if it comes down to ?? over Keanu. Which would be good
Rylie says he wants both of them. THat's what he hopes it is. One of them wins blockbuster, th eother wins the vote. Keanu goes. But he doesn't know if that's gonna be the case. He loves Zach to death. HE's not good at competitions
Lauren says yeah
He's good but
Lauren says she knows what he means
Rylie says he's okay
they laugh
Lauren says he's only won on
The very first day
Lauren says he just looked at Adrian's puzzle
They laugh
Rylie says he thinks VInny's smart, and Vinny knows this fucking game. Vinny's been applying for like 8years, 10 years. He's a superfan of the show, so he's smart. He know sabout this game. He thinsk Vinny's relaly a good, if he can get through this week would be a great person to have
Lauren says she agree. she hops Vinny wins blockbuster, and she hopes it's against Zach and Keanu and in that case she thinsk Zach stays
but if it comes down to Zach and Vinny
Lauren says yeah, then she needs to talk to Mickey and see where she's at. She needs to atlk to Kat too. She thinks she pretty much knows where everyone else is at with votes. Except Morgan (rolls eyes)
Rylie says he doesn't know. He's gonna be real. He' sclloser with Vinny than Zach, so it's like he loves him and wants to respect Lauren at the same time
Lauren says here's what she'll do. She wants to talk to those two to see where they're at. She'll make her decision tonight no matter what. And she'll tell him what she's doing. She wants to make her deicsion tonight. SHe feels like she has a decision but she doesn't know for sure yet. She wants to talk to Mickey adn Katherhien and then they can have a discussion later and figure out what they actually
Rylie says he's stuck right now. IT's a hard ass week. Keanu he doesn't really give a fuck if Kenau stays or not, but ?? Vinny ?? Zach. He's really stuck between ar ock and a hard place. It' eating at him. He' sthinking game wise. He talks more game with Vinny. He knows where he lies
she feels like she does too
he feels like he knows everything about his decisions. Zach he doesn't know what he's thinking. If he's up against somebody eh knows Vinny would keep him every single time. HE might've heard some shit baout, it might not hav ebeen Zach. Just Zach might throw Katherhine up too, but he doesn't know. He won't say that's 100%. But from what he's heard, and he doesn't know about now, but before
Lauren says she talked to him about noms and he said he would not
Rylie says that's good. And he couldn't be the one to put Zach up
Lauren says same
Rylie says he could never do that. But he doesn't... he doesn't know. Vinny's been his boy, and he trusts him with everything., and he knows Vinny would pull him off the block. Vinny's literally told him that
Lauren says yeha, and he wants to play this game
Rylie says and he wants to find people like them that he can trust. People with backbones that aren't scared to do shit
Lauren says yup
Rylie says figure it out and find out whatever sh eants to find out. He's with her
Morgan says she doesn't want to make a decision without Mickey because they are a four. It could make their game harder. Whether it's him staying, or Vince staying. One thing she wanted to ask is if he's locked in with the four. She knows that he was thinking about going with Kathreine and Lauren
talk a little lower
Zach says he's told Mickey everything. If he's airing out everything, he's doing it for a reason.
Morgan says she was really distraught yesterday because of
Zach says he gets it
Mrogan says she would neve rbe able to tell her because that's not her place, and she would've never told her, btu that would've eaten her up only because she wanted to know... she feels like MIckey might ask if he has it who would he be willing to use it on. Her concern would be if he would risk their four for Lauren. Let's say he's on the block and it comes down to him saving Mickey but Lauren's the replacement
he gets that
ro him saving her but Lauren's the replacement
he'd be able to take hismelf off
but the way he phrased it, he would've givne her the veto and take himself off but that's only if he wins the intial veto
correct
that's what she's saying. Is he thinking far enough where if he did have to make that decision because tha tis a concern and she knows it'd be a concern for Mickey too. If he were to use it, is he using it for the betterment of their games or is it just gonna be like a... she thinks that's the question. That's gonna be entirely up to him
He's telling her this because it's best for his game to be with them. He realizes Lauren could go up very soon, potentially next week
Morgan says but she wouldn't go home
he's at the point where he understands he could go up also
Morgan says she knows he ?? to asve her and Lauren but mainly her. BUt the thing is would he choose to save his life over her or save her life over his
He thinks he understands whta she's saying
Morgan says let's say before he even said he was gonna use it that it was jury, would he choos eto save himself or Lauren and he odesn't make jury adn she does
says he would want ot make jury. He understands the remifications but he's told her multiple times
Morgan says she thinsk Mickey thinks LAuren is his cryptonite
Zach says he's telling her straight up, just to show how loyal he is with them, he would reveal it that way, and he wouldn't tell Lauren because he understands the situation
Morgan says what she would say to Mickey is when he told her that's why she was all ove rthe place because she realizes he chose to save her instead of him. SHe doesn't want to tell him how to tell Mickey
Rachel comes in to change for the DR
he was like he's scared Jimmy had a power
JImmy wouldn't have been able to get a power, but she might have
...
the only thing she's worried about is if Mickey would fele some type of way if she iddn't tell her. But ?? that's your game. She just doesn't want Mickey to think... like she's gonna feel. Feels liek he shoudldo it separately. It's gonna be hard for her reacting the way he did. When he ?? that he did that for her, it smacked her really hard. She won't be able to genuinely do that again
does she think it would ?? if he does tell her
?? tell her that he told Morgan not to tell her
and wlak through the steps na dmkae sure they wer egood in the ADrian situationa dn the Rachel situation
but she might think he might not tell her if he wasn't good in taht situation
but that makes sense
seh just doesn't want Mickey to assume this could be something he's just doing
just to save himself
at the same time that's a huge power up. She doesn't htink Mickey would tell a soul
Zach says he could just frame it as he's trying to build the ultimate trust with her
They continue going over how Zach would tell Mickey that he has a power
Zach walks through the scenario of how the perfect case would've been the veto got used on Vince and then Zach used the power to bring himself down
Morgan tells him to discuss that with Mickey for future scenarios, and how he could use it. She doesn't want to know what he'll say to Mickey
Zach says he hadn't told Vinny yet. He's trying to build trust and in future weeks he can save their group if he wants to
Mogan says she hope she's not making it complicated
Zach says she is
...
Morgan says he can say he did that for the sake of Morgan not going up and moving forward since she knows it could come down to Zach and Vince. Really the only reason he told her was because one of them wasn't coming off.
Zach says he would've used it if Vince was safe
Morgan says but it would've been aired is what she's saying
Zach says he would've told her beforehand becuase she would've been the one going up. He would've sat down with her and Vince
Morgan says to Zach let's put him in Mickey's shoes. If two people in your alliance knew something for a couple days and now everything is being thrown at her
Zach says because it's personal to him so he doesn't know if he (can look at it from her perspective). He's gonna say he told MOrgan not to tell her or Vince because he wante dot knwo 100%. There were still things he had to talk to her about. After today he felt like he could tell her
Morgan says it's up to him
Zach says he's gonna talk to her latr
Morgan says she still can't believe he did that
Zach says he would've felt like a really crappy person if he did that and she went up. Vince would be priority number one to go home for everybody. He thought he was fine and then he was like oh shoot. He told peopel he wouldn't tell anybody but he feels liek this situation is so differnet it's unbelievable
how about this. What if Morgan was to tell Mickey, just wait. She's not going to. Just going through every situation. Nevermind.However he wants to do it she's gonna support him. Say all the things. HE's fighting for his life, and however he does it isn't gonna be incorrect. If he decides to tell her or not that's his decision
Mickey says if it's Zach vs Keanu she wants to keep Zach. If it's Vinny vs Keanu, she wants to keep Vinny. If it's Zach vs Vinny, she has to think about it
Ashley says she need sot know where Mickey's going
Mickey says she's down to do Vinny. She thinks it's better for their games
Ashley asks how
Mickey says she has to pull out her M&Ms again
They laugh
Ashley says Rachel just walked by. How can she mend this bridge between them?
Mickey says she doesn't want it mended
Ashley says Rachel's gonna be gone in the next few weeks anyway
Mickey says Rachel needs to be nice to her. she's not being mean to Rachel
Ashley says both of them were being weird
Mickey says she was still taking to Rachel. Rachel wouldn't look at her when she's talking to her. When But when Morgan or Zach talked to her she looked at them. Even Morgan noticed. If she (Mickey) can still be cool with Keanu let's be honest. It's Rachel. She invited Ashley to walk and Mickey and Kelley were right there between them two
Ashley says she (Ashley) didn't like that
Mickey says that's where she's like okay, that's when you're intentionally being weird. She went to check on her and said when people are saying they want her in jury they're saying it's an honor. Then it went from that, since then attitude
Ashley says it's so weird
Mickey say she doesn't understand. And she's planting seeds
Ashley says she asked Rachel in the bathroom, Rachel said something. And she asked if she's said anything about Mickey to anyone. She said no she hasn't
Mickey says she lied
Ashley says Rachel said she swears
Mickey says she definitely lied. Which is cwazy. lets be honest, Rachels a great person but she didn't win by being sweet and honest
Ashley says she didn't watch her season
Mickey says Rachel was known for being one of the biggest manipulators in her game
Ashley says she didn't know that. She thought someone said she played an honest and loyal game
Mickey says Rachel planted seeds. They called her a savage
Ashley says she didn't know that
Morgan joins
Ashley asks if she's okay
Morgan say she thinks she's fine. She's hoping for best case scenario. And she needs to stop eating everything in sight
Morgan leaves
They go back to talking about Rachel's season
...
even if they annoy each other
even if she annoys her sometimes, she's never gona let somebody come for her and vice versa, and if she's in one of those seats, she's voting for her to win
same. But Rachel also knows that, that's probably why
Mickey says there's ntohing they can do about that. She let her friend vote out her friend. Let's be real. She let Jimmy vot eAmy out. Amy would still be here. She can't be mad at Mickey for getting rid of Jimmy. Jimm wasn't even her best friend
she became best friends iwht him
which is crazy, how do you become best friends with someone who took out your best friend. She's not gonna be, the fact that yall are cool like that. She's gonna be at JImmy's wedding is insane
Jimmy was for sure not a tennis coach
what does she think
lawyer, stock broker
he has money, she knows that
remember when he was tlakin gabout stocks, bonds
it turned into a townhouse
Ashley says apartment to condo to townhouse
Mickey says when they had to do the video, he was like yeah! they had nothing to look at. She's thinking small quaint little spot
Ashley says they brought it up
They hear a noise
Ashley says she brought it up today, she thinks Ava was there. She was so weird
Mickey says who? Rachel?
Ashley says so she knows
Mickey says she know she was not a tennis coach
Ashley says he just knew so much about random intense things. Finances, and stocks, public policy behind things.
even he talked about his family having multiple vacation homes, and he planned out him and Shawn's wedding. A tennis coahc ?? stuff like that right? As a tennis coach?
and you're not working your ass off when your parents hav eth e money. All my friends whose parents have money they're not doing anything. They just do enough. I don't know that makes me nervous baout her thoguh if she's willing to ?? throw ?/ under the bus. She may make a fuss if ?? next to each other. Granted I still think she would go home over me
absolutely If you and Rachel sat next to each other Rachel goes home. And I'ma be honest with you, prepare for that anyway
you think peole would put me next to her
It hink everybody's trying to get her out so don't be surprised if someone does or if someone makes a deal with you if you get up and win the veto, they'll take you down and put her up
I don't wanna be on the block
I'm just saying it could be a possibility
whos' saying that
I'm just saying all avenues
you sually tell me for a reason
because I play the game in my head. If I wasn't close to you, I would put you up. I would put you up first and tell you not to ?? in the veto, pick somebody that's good at playign they would take you down and backdoor Rachel. I you weren't my sister I would
but that's dangerous cause there's no backdoor. She could win blockbuster
I would put you next to someone that could go home
don't tell me ??
IO'm telling you to be prepared, if anyone is half as smart as me they're gonna do the sam ething. WE're all gonna touch the block. As long as you have the votes
But what if peole do me, Rachel, Vince, I could go home
they're not gonna do Vince Rachel and you. Don't over think but just be prepared. I know you don't like it but at the end of the day ?? just like Ava might go on the block because people go home against her. People might put you on th eblock so you don't us ethe veto
I wouldn't use the veto on her. I'm just gonna ocntinue to stay away then
yeah stay away. But it's just a possibility. No one's saying this. I think of all the possibilities. I think of everyone here and put them in the HOH box. If everyone's ?? is Rachel I did every scenario if people want Rachel to go home
Zach knows me and Rachel ar enot that close. Morgan, I don't know but I don't think ?? would put me up
I don't think people woudl put you up because you're close, I think people would put you up so you don't pick her
I wouldn't pick her. Maybe 'll tell people that. Like just so you knwo I would not play for Rachel. I wouldn't use it. I wouldn't want to be picked
Me neither. It would be like you're forced to do so or not to do so
at that point I would just have to throw it
Zach comes in and says he needs to talk to her
Mickey: we're kicking you out?
Ashley: yeah he's kicking me out. Nah I'm just kidding. It's fine
Ashley leaves
Zach says he just wanted to pull her because she was here forever
Mickey asks how he's feeling
Zach says everyone asks how he's feeling
Zach says he has something to tell her, and this is to fully tell her how much she means to him in this game
MIckey says something that just happened today or something he's holding on to
Zach says something he's only told one other person
Mickey says holding onto it for how long?
Zach says since day one. What kind of trust is this he keeps telling her a littl ebit. What is it?
Zach says okay, he has a power, and he is telling this...
Mickey says he's lying
Zach says he swears on his life. The thing about it is he didn't want to reveal it to anyone, but he had the opportunity this week to pull himself off. He did not because Morgan was the one that was gonna go up in his place. He would've had to sacrifice his 10k to pull himself off from the veto block. He told Morgan right after the veto meeting, not before hand. He said you're going on the block 100%?> she said yes. He said because Morgan and Vince would've been on the block together, he said what's the point of doing this. He's telling her this so if they're on the block together he would do the same thing for her. He told Morgan after the veto, he's telling her now. If Vince makes it through he's being steadfast in saying that ?? them four
Mickey says but he can't use it now can he
Zach says he can't use it now. He has to be on the block and it has to be the veto ceremony. When you close the box and say I have a power
Mickey says but if you win the veto you're fine.
Zach says his goal going into the veto was win the veto, give it to Vinny, then use the 10k to pull himself off
Mickey says Zachary!
Zach says and he was going to take himself off but everyone he asked said Morgan was most likely the person
Mickey says but maybe they could've had Will talk to Ava. He wouldn't have liked the other person. It probably would've been Lauren but Lauren wouldn't have went home
Zach says he's not telling anybody
Mickey says she's not telling anybody.
Zach says the only people that knows is them three, and if Vince makes it he'll tell him. Lauren will never know. He told Morgan because she's directly related. That's how much he wants to stay. He's willing to sacrifice the 10k he earned to stay another week. Same thing. If one of them goes up, he's will to take himself off so they have a fighting chance
Mickey says that's why he's offering himself as a pawn to people they don't trust
Zach says he only offered to Kat and Rylie. He told them he's wiling to be a pawn if they vote to keep him in any situation
Mickey says she loves it
Zach says that's everything.
Mickey says she's down. She really wants him to win. She doesn't want it to be him without Vince. She needs him to win. If it comes between him and Keanu, he's fine. She just wants to kee both of them. She doesn't just want to keep him. SHe likes him and he's great. But she wants to continue what they have going. That's fire
he's trying to keep Vince. He's been talking to him trying to figure out a way. IF it's him and Vince at the ned, and they know Keanu's not gonna win, if he throws the comp, he feels like he has a better chance against Keanu than Vince does
Mickey says she thinks that's true
he'd only throw it if he knows for a fact
Mickey says Vince has to have it, yeah
if they can all make it through this week, he has that power til jury. So they have ?? or three more weeks. THey can make a move, if it is the two of htem, if someone ?? has sway with a potential fourth nom
Mickey says she doesn't see him going anywhere. She thinks he's going to stay. On his side vs Vince she thinks it looks great but that's what makes her sad, she wants both of them
He thinks he has Ashley. she said she had his back but she wants to talk to everyone, that's why she was talking to Mickey. He's riding with all his chips. HE wanted to make that very clear this entire week
Mickey says they're locked in. They're good
save Vince and
Mickey says they're good. He has her. He already did but
They hug
he needs to sleep
Mickey says why is he up
he wanted to talk to her
Mickey says he should've rushed her because she wants him to be ready for tomorrow
Vince says he thinks the easiest person Lauren can blame it on is Ashley. She's supposedly 50/50 because she heard Zach is coming after her. Everyone kept telling him to talk to Ashley. At the end of the day he doesn't thinks he keeps him in any scenario. They just never talk so she has no reason
Lauren says ugh. She thinks she's just ?? She thinks she's gonna have to talk to Morgan after their conversation and she's gonna ask her what she's doing. She has to give Morgan an answer
Vince says she can tell her that... she doesn't want it to have to go to a tie
if she tells her she's voting to keep Zach, Morgan would vote to keep him, and that would be another vote to keep Vince
Vince says wait wait wait, she could do that. That's very Big Brother
Lauren says yeah
Vince asks what she's saying to Zach. He's sure she's asked.
he hasn't asked her. She just doesn't say anything
he hasn't asked once?
Lauren says no. That's also another reason why like... she doesn't know
Vince says hm
Lauren says he was like maybe he just assumes
Vince says that's what a lot of people are doing. A lot of people assume he ran her HOH or Zach ran her HOH or anyone else. They thought Katherine was going to. ?? some other shit in there
Lauren says please just win blockbuster
Vince says he's gonna try. It would make life a lot easier. ... It's just very ironic that he's against big guys. His whole damn life has been the same story. Second place against the big guys every time. So he needs ot change the narrative, prove this to himself outside of here
Lauren syas let's quickly run numbers against Keanu, her Morgan Zach, Katherine, Rylie, Mickey, maybe WIll, maybe AShley. NOt Rachel. Not Kelley.
mm mm
from the conversations she's had, he has six guaranteed
against Keanu?
nod. Her Morgan, Zach, Rylie, Katherine, Mickey
Mickey ?? Will vote with her
there you go
So it's two either side
she thinks he would. Why would he vote Keanu
Vince says ?? they wanna make Ava happy
Rachel tries to make these things happen every week and it's never worked
Vince says true. Did she hear the latest? He was talking to Mickey in the train room about numbers, Rachel walks in says oh sorry guys, walks out and tells Keanu and Kelley both that he's a mastermind and he was making Mickey cry. Mickey was crying with tissues in her hand. Mickey was eating M&Ms. She was not crying. He even said to Mickey afterwards. Keanu was liek were you crying? She was like if she was crying, why didn't he check on her. THis is what her eyes look like. They're just glossy
Vince says they're in a spot where multiple people have ?? She has no idea some of his relationships in the house
she really dowens't. It's really weird. She thought Rachel was playing a... maybe she is
Vince says Rahel's seen them together quite often
Lauren says she thinks Rachel's looking at that more. Vince is the master manipulator, and Lauren's just the little girl who's frightened
They laugh
Vince says he's flattered that she could think he's a mastermind. Second, he's the least alpha he's ever met,s o he doesn't know how he could posibly be that way. They need to ?? Morgan. He's curious to hear what she says too. ?? between him and Zach, it just freaks him out because he knows a split send shim home. It's not vs Zach, he just wants to stay. He just hopes people see the valu ein him adn what he can do. He'll burn everything if he needs to. He'll do whatever. They're fans. He wants to make sure that he's doing ?? entertaining at the same time
Morgan walks by
it looks like they're being like listen I asked you where is the ?? egg
Vince says can they turn off all the lights except the one above her?
Morgan leaves
Ashley comes upstairs
Lauren says she's so scared ??
Ashley comes over and asks if they're having a chat
he's not instigating
Lauren says interrogating
Vince says they need to minimize. He'll let her know when he's done
AShley asks if Ava is still up
she doubts it
Vince says good question. He thinks it's only 11. 11:20 maybe
AShley asks has she opened the door?
Vince says not since they've been up there
Ashley says then no
Vince says he's so sorry ?? just a nervous place to be. Did Katherine confirm where she'd vote?
Lauren says with Vinny in any case. She was worried baout the Keanu thing but Katherine realized that's dumb
did she tell her that Keanu ?? would put her up?
Lauren says no. She told a lot of people though. She told Mickey, Mickey was pissed. She ??
They laugh
Lauren says Rylie was like he can't fucking win HOH. She's just saying what Rylie said
not to sound liek a mastermind, but he's trying to incentivize Keanu to not gun for th eblockbsuetr, because he thinks he's safe enough
what's the reason?
because Keanu told him he's going home against him and he's safe against Zach. So if Keanu feels safe about it, and he's good against Zach, but he's not
Lauren says ?? but he says he is good, so, she thinks he should try it
Vince says last ditch. It's a hail mary, he has nothing else. He has ?? to fall back on but he doesn't want to rely ??
Lauren says final two if he throws it
Vince laughs
Vince says that would be awful. He couldn't do that. Slow down. She's scaring him. ... but?
Lauren laughs and says "let's ride this out together".
Vince says that's scary
Lauren says that's bad. That's really bad
VInce says he's kind of trying to play for it where it's like think about it
Lauren asks did he say that already?
Vince says Keanu said that's ascary thing to even think about becuas ehe could guarantee safety if he wins. And he said 100%
big game move if he threw it and still stayed and guaranteed an ally
Vice says he could try tomorrow morning. But he loves that stuff
Lauren says "this has never been done before"
Vince says pepole were giving away vetoes
Lauren says that might do it
Vince ays he would eat that up. He's gonna try it
Lauren laughs
Vince says it's worth a try, he feels so bad, but he'll try
Will Ashley Rachel for Zach, Kelley Keanu, Rylie Katherine for him for sure. So then that just leaves her Morgna and Mickey boom boom. Whereve she goes, he stays or it's a tie
Vince says he's so sorry she's in this position again
Lauren says it's okay
Vince says it's tough in this game ?? lie alot. He doesn't know if he has it on his conscious to do some of the stuff. And he wanted to find someone ?? they're the same person
Lauren says yeah. She's gonna talk to Mrogan, see if she knows where MIckey's going, try to figure out where she's going
Vince syas if this works he owes her big. He owes his entire life in this game
Lauren says he'd have to get either Morgan or Mickey's vote. She'd probably have to lie. THe only way they'd split their vote is ?? it goes to a 5-5, Ava makes the decision
Vince says it's all on Ashley (implying that if they need to, they could pin Lauren's vote for Vince on Ashley), she ?? that Zach's gunning for her ?? he doesn't think anyone would look at her (Lauren). The game has sped up
...
They go downstairs and join Morgan in the kitchen
Lauren asks if it' s12
Vince says it is
Lauren says she has to go to bed very soon and helps Morgan
Vince leaves
Morgan says if one of them wins she thinks they both stay. A lot has changed. She asks if she talked to ?? today
Lauren says yeah
Morgan asks how that went
Ashley comes over, then leaves
Morgan asks how her talk with Rachel went. DId she just ask where she's voting. She didn't give her anything?
Lauren says yeah
Morgan says to keep Zach or Keanu
Lauren says she's voting Vinny out no matter what. She thinks she's going to keep Zach
Morgan says against Keanu?
Lauren says she thinks. That's kind of assumption ?? thinks that he needs her vote
Morgan says she doesn't think he has.. She personally doesn't trust Rachel. There's just some things she's been doing she can't trust how much she tells her is real. Week 1 and 2 they used to talk game, and now she doesn't at all. So that's (weird?) When peopel stop talking game wiht you, it means they don't trust you. Now that she's looking back at things before, Rachel would be like oh you should keep Jimmy it's better for your game
Lauren says that's her angle iwth everything
Ashley returns and leaves again
Morgan says she still doesn't know what she's doing, she wants to sleep on it. THey can talk in the morning
Lauren says she feels the same way
Morgan says they both hav epros and cons
Lauren says she asks if she knows where Mickey's voting
Morgan says she's talking to her tonight
Lauren says she thinks she know swhere everybody's voting except the three of them
Morgan says katherine and rylie are voting to evict keanu no matter what, but between the two she doesn't know
Lauren says she thinks...
she doesn't know where they're voting
Mickey passes by
Morgan says she's dong the dishes
Mickey says she doesn't knwo why she's doing them anyway
Morgan says ?? them in the morning
Mickey says yeah, not you (Morgan)
Mickey leaves
Morgan says at first she wanted ?? but she's been twisting things, and she's like oh no Rachel has to go. She can't have that ?? Jimmy was coming for her, and she was like Jimmy was never coming for you. Oh so you're gonna lie? Once that happened, like no girl
it's not as scary as ??
Morgan says kind of like the JImmy thing. She was the only one who saw his shit
she did, she just didn't say
Morgan says ...during her one on one it wasn't a ?? he was just liek you're not gonna like my noms, and she was like... okay. He didn't tell her Will was his fifth nominee was
Lauren says Jimmy told ?? that ?? as a nominee
Morgan says the one thing he did say was that ?? he had her and Katherine wrapped around his finger
Lauren says she thinks she caught onto it and Kat strated to see it later
Morgan says she's leaving the rest of (the dishes) for whoever's in the morning
Lauren says her eyes are getting heavy. She'll go bring the knives back to storage
first of all, wow. I just really want him to go. So if ?? Zach told me he told you
mhm
I don't know what to do with that. That's why I wanted to talk to you, after
Mickey: mhm
Morgan: it has its pros it also has its cons. Right now, if I had to vote right now ?? keep Vinny but ??
you knew he had it since he had it right?
no noms
is that why you were so freaked out?
no he told me after. He saved me. He told me the reason he's telling me after was so you would know that ?? I didn't liek the fact that you didn't know. Adn if he didn't tell you by the end of the day I was gonan tell you. There's no way we could move forward knowing that
thank you
?? talking about. I'll be real. I was tossing turning like I Could not move forward iwthout you knowing. I know how much your game means to us. When he was asleep first thing I did was I went to him and said did you tell her? He was like (nod) That's why I was waiting for
pros and cons if he's on the block
let's say hit sis Ava, he won veto. His plan if
he can use if he does or doesn't win veto
he can only use it on himself
but he doesn't hav eto win veto
no. If he won veto he could give it to VInce and use the power. So if he wins, he has two vetos. One for himself, one for osmeone else. Whoever is HOH gets 10,000
oh so the money goes to the HOH
which is why when he was offering to be a pawn, he's willing to do that for us. WHen he frirst told me I Was like I can't think abotu that
that means we would have to split ?? up though. BEcause if he goes to ?? that would be suspicious anyway
He knows. He's smarter than that. We're the only two who are ever gonna know
I know, but he's offering himself as apawn to Rylie and Katehrine. I think that's it
Rylie, you, me, Kathinr. I thought WIll was one of them
he didn't tell me that
no I'm saying remember when we hwere here?
Mickey: no I'm basing this on what he otld me today. He said only ou and Morgan know but the only people I hoffered my pawnship was Katherine and Rylie
Morgan: potentially fo up as a panw?
potentially
He told me ?? doesn't know anything
Mickey: also, he approached these two with a final four. These two
I know, I'm saying final four with who?
I know but with who?
Mickey: I think it's him ?? Vinny
that doesn't surprise me
and Rylie told you that?
Katherine
do you think he's doing that to ?? save his ass?
?? I guess
either way that's not ognna happen. What does your gut tell you on it. ?? just keep Vinny or Zach ?? have to go over the options
Mickey: what do we think the benefit of him doing that is. If he's saying he'll offer himself as a pwan. If he's Kelley and Rachel wins HOH worst case,. She wins and she puts up me, you, and Vinny.
His power means nothing
that's what I'm saying. It only means something if someone would put him up. The chances f either of these winning HOH. Her is very slim. Rylie would win HOH
who do we acurtally think woudl put him up?
Mickey: Katherine, but I'll be hoenst if Katherine puts him up it's probably not to be a pawn, it's for him to go home. Which kind of is good for him
right. I can ssee Ava putting him up again
Mickey: honestly I don't think so. But if she has to yes. I can even see Rahcle at some point
yeah I think so too. especially if she learns that, if she thinsk the three
Mickey: these are th eonly four people that would put him up
so this is the only opportunity taht would help us if e needed it. If we take this away. This is me and you
his power ends at jury
Mickey: I know which i three more weeks. Let's just talk throwugh it. This is us. Who do you think would put us up? That we would be concerned about
Rachel. I'm in the middle for her
okay that's me and you
yeah I think Rachel would both put us up
I also think this is me. Even though I think Kelley and I are cool, I think she'd put me up
I don't think Kelley would put me up
okay
I can see Katherine if she had to
Lauren if she had to
Ava if she had to. I can't see Vinny or Zach. AShley, Will wouldn't put either of us up. I don't think Rylie would put either of us u. Do you think he might put me up?
I dont' think so
what about AShley?
Mickey: maybe she might
so we have two guarantees
Mickey: but of thises people none of thes are the same people that woujld put up Zach
Kelley is, Katherine is
Mickey: that's the only time we'd be able to possibly use his power if he's on the block with us. Here's what I was trying to say. Based on these people who did we say would put Zach up?
Katherine, Ava if she had to. Rachel might
Katherine, Ava, Rachel
AShley cause she can't trust ??
I don't se eher putting him up though. So Katherine, Rachel Ava. Asd that's it right?
Tevhnically here's the thing. WE have that card to play. We could put him up as a pawn. BEcause he's strong. Then we can make a double play where we could put two up
No I agree with that, what I was saying is this doesn't overlap at all
Here's the thing I can potentially see Kelley doing it if she has other ?? pawns iwth other people. I don't think she'd put up Lauren because she wouldn't wanna start that
it would only be good fo rone time. And if we win HOH, I don't feel like it makes that big a difference. Do you think it does? It really only makes sense if someone puts us on the block with him
if he wins HOH. Oh no he can't
You see what I mean? We only have three weeks
?? or four if it's 7 person
no, it's tomorrow, and then thre more
really? Fuck you're right
Mickey: So it's gonna be whoever goes home tomorrow and three more, and then it's jury. So we only have three noms to use it. So in the next three noms, one if we win HOH,a nd those three oms, we could potentially put him on the block with two other people and let him bring himself down and we backdoor osmebody. But only one time
is it worth keeping him to do that?
let's say either of us do Zach, Rachel. Now here's the thing,a nd I don't know ?? yours because ?? let's say he can take ismelf off. THat perception could be crazy
Mickey: I didn't htink about that. Cause ?? tell if we win $10,000
Id ont' know. I really don't know
Mickey: what is your gut telling you?
Vinny ?? it might be a situation where you can ??
but ?? he didn't tell ?? he told me he can trade the 10k for a veto
to the HOH. THat's what he told me. It goes to the HOH
He didn't tell me that but okay
I thought it was to the HOH when he told me. He said the same thing, trade to. If he knew that I Wasn't gonna be the renom, he was gonna take himself of fand Ava would've gotten $10,000. So that's the tradeoff. He either goes home tomorrow iwht 10k because he didn't use the power or he would've used the power, Ava would've gotten the 10k and he would've pulled himself off th eblock. He wa sliek I Didn't want you to be in the line of fire if you went up, if I took myself off
Mickey: I don't know Morg
Morgan: Now hear me out. If Keanu and Zach are on the block
Zach. I thought we were getting rid of Keanu
I want to, jut want to make sure
If Keanu and Zach or Vinny and Zach, Keanu goes home. THe only issue is between Vinny and Zach cause I Don't know
I'll say this, for Vinny, we are each others' number ones, but I feel like your close number ones are these two, but my close numbe ones are him with a slight ?? Zach> Ava would never turn on you. Vinny would never turn on me
you're saying it's good to have people that would never turn on us no matter what.
this is Zach by extension because obvioulsy kryptonite here. I think no matter what these would not turn on any
I think it's all interchangeable
Vinny if we told him not to touch these two, and Zach would never touch them two, so this is a really nice square if we want both in jury, righ tafter this we could potentially. But then she might have a problem
who's this?
Ashley
because h emight tell her. But I know Ashley wanted to create something
Mickey: he's not gonna tellher anything. He doesn't tell her anything
Morgan: okay, I don't know. Becaue Ava told me today thank yu for tellin gme. I really do wanna build something with you. Whenever you're ready. Cause I feel like we can beat these two ?? to the finals
Mickey: I think it should be, this
Morgan: for sure
Morgan: I think WIll for sure
Mickey: Ava, I feel like she could really win
Morgan: Will for sure
Mickey: the only messed up thing would be if he wins, who would he take?
Morgan: he'd take you
Mickey: We don't know though
Morgan: like right now, he'd take you. The thing about Will is he's unbiased. So he'd look at comps, social, then decide
Mickey: Honestly, Will's
Feeds switchyou're right, Vinny will take me, and ??
not only that I just don't want that to happen
no Vinn woudl take me and I will lose
I know, that's what I'ms aying. He'll beat either of us
I agree. They can't go as far. Ava might be able. Only becaue if she only has one HOH
that is something to consider
?? her socila game. People di dnot like how she ran her HOH
that is true. Let's keep that in mind
hopefully one of us wins HOH, we cna have that four. THe danger about that, I don't think we can afford ?? just keep it in our mind
no I don't think we make an official four ?? until we need them to diminish this. THen we come here, because we have understanding at this point that we are not supposed to be touching htese. Does that make sense?
yes
I think if ach ?? I don't know if she'll get to jury
one of the two either one
that's gonne be a tossup, it really just depends on who gets put up, but either one
?? Lauren that Rachel is keeping Keanu no matter what and Zach if he's next to Vince
Mickey: I heard that too
Morgna: Honestly we don't really know what's gonna happen tomororw. How do you feel betwene them two if you had to choose
that's what i'm saying I really don't know
let's go over the pros with vinny or maybe cons
okay the pros with Vinny. IF he's HOH, the people I know he's omfortable with taking out are Lauren if he has to
he said he didn't want to take that shot
but he siad he would if he had to. Remember?
yeah yeah. But I'm saying right now he would probably put up. Or are we only going over ??
if ever he's HOH, people I know he's gonna tka eshots at are Rachel, Ashley
Keanu
Mickey: Keanu if he's here
is he comfortable iwth putting up Keanu?
He needs to be
he needs to keep that because Keanu tells him everything
so that's Keanu. Kelley, KAtherine. Everybody else is debatable
yeah
this woul be his last option but he'd do it if he had to
I even think he'd take a shot at Rylie
I ?? he said that Rylie is his boy
ID on't know who'd take a shot at Rylie then. Ava's obsessed with Rylie. Rylie has this weird respect for Will because he served our country
Id on't think WIll would give a fuck to take a shot at him
?? right right. THis is cool, this works
I genuinely think Keanu, he's not stupid but he's not ?? If he had to take a shot at people he would take a shot at
us two. Ashley
he loves Lauren.
He woudl do Ava
Mrogan: and maybe Will. Now Zach, he woudl take a shot at, Kelley, Keanu, Vince is gone. Keanu, Rachel. He woudl take a shot
I think AShley
yeah justby association. he'd make sure to tell her she's not gonna go home
but when it's time to put her in jury who's gonna do it?
(shrug) I'll do it, Zach will do it, Vince willdo it
Morgan: remember he siad he would tell Rylie he would use the veto on her, and like, you know?
if he's put up
in the next three weeks
which it depends. Let's say we win HOH. I think he's keeping it as asafety thing. If doesn't ?? then ??
if we won HOH, I won HOH, I would put up the people hta ti"M willing to put up are Rachel, Ava, Katherine, Lauren
these are your ?? noms?
Kelley, and Vince is gone right? Vince has to be gone
Keanu could be gone too
Mickey: that's fine. And then ?? her ?? and her and her as my pawns for the most part. And I'm comfortable with one of these two going depending on how it works out
the thing is ?? you're comfortable with Katherine leaving?
no if it's my HOH next week, I would do
I thought this was your HOH next week?
I just lined up the people i Would never put up.
oh
So let's Kelley, Ava Rachle
you woudl tell Kelley that the target is Rachle
I woudl tell Ava the target is Kelley or Rachel. My renom would be Lauren if they pull themselves down
this we're keeping no matter what but I Doin't know if Zach would consider ?? about htat, but who cares
Mickey: he literalyl said it would be fine. So either he would be fine or not. Just like h ewould be comfortable putting Ava up, what can I say? I made it clear I don't want her up
AVa wouldn't go home. I htink he understands that if a lot of poeple are ?? with us she's in the best place. ?? wanting to work with Ava and Lauren Lauren will beat everyone because of her social game
we can win next to AVa not next to her, evne though we love her. I'm obsessed with this girl. But ?? noms ?? this is what I would ??
we hvae ot be careful. If Zach is like put me up as anom and he does that, dpeending on how it's
he shouldn't use the veto on her unless we say he should
not on her, but if Lauren's HOH ??
for Lauren's HOH or my HOH.
no
Talk a little bit louder because
the only people I think he should offer to go up as pawns should be the orriginal people. If he ?? Lauren in there ?? We know what he's doing, so it's kind of lie. I don't want to go and be liek Zach be so for real. If he's liek Morgan put me up, do it. BUt I'm not tryin to put him up to get hte money, I'm trying to put him up to make plays
Mickey: so if he's here and I were to put these, ket's say I put them up to start, and Lauren wins, hwoever wins I have her pick Zach. Pull her down naturall,y pull her in
the scary part is if someone were to play ?? everyone here would use the veto except for her. ANd she might ?? this one ?? not to use the veto. technically she went against your HOH
yeah, that's true
so me personall yi Know people don't want to give her two chances because of what hapened with Keanu but
but also with AShley she doesn't want to blow up our game by being connected to Rachel that couldbe a moment
where you have to choose if you'r ewith us or against us. So that could be something we could risk. Kelley goes home or Lauren then enxt week ?? AShley is one of their targets, she would now become one of ours
Mickey: I get what you're saying. So with that in mind, I'm just trying to figur eout how the power makes the most sense fo rus. THe only thing that i"m concerned abot wtih Zach is Rachel wants to work with Zach. Rachle wants Vinny out. If we get Vinny out that's one less target and she starts to move on to us
I don't think she comes back ot us
I didn't say go back to us I said come after us. If we get rid of VInny, that empowers her. She's not gonna come for him, Ava, Will, Ashley. She's gonna come for us two
Oh I know
and
Katherine, 100%. I fully agree. I don't even think she'd go Rylie
she'd go Katherine
those are her options. She might even do Lauren knowing that anyone would go against her
not only do we have to deal with her, we have to deal with Keanu too,a nd their noms would probably be the sam exact noms. I feel like keeping Zach, I was gonn acall him fred, but us keeping Fred no (laugh) us keeping Zach that can be the only potential problem I see and there not being a lot of people
unless Zach wins and ?? front door Rachel, we might have to tell him to do that, so that way it makes it clear that she no loner has him
but I think that's hwy he's scared. He was like he only wants to put her up if he knows he can put her out
either way it' slike okay Zach ?? veto to take your ass off. So he's actually not in that position. and honestly I talked to Lauren, I'm like I"m ont gonna lie to you, if I win HOH next weke I"m taking the shot. She told me I'm pretty sure you have the whle house behind you except for
Mickey: that's it
Morgan: I know both of them are voting ?? out Keanu no matter what. Wehat did you get ?? guage of Vinny vs Zach
split
this is what we were talking about. Ava nad me, she was liek I Feel like you had the hardest week out of everyone aside from the guys on the block. I want you to tell me who you want to keep if I ?? tiebreaker
Mickey:what did you tell her?
I was like oh wow, righ tnow I don't knokw can I tell you tomorrow? She was like yeah, that's why I wanted to talk to you. So based on who we decide to keep I would tell her that's who
Mickey: for righ tnow, the votes, Zach/Vinny, it's looking like
Katherine woul dvote against...
Mickey: Katherine, Kelley, Keanu
Rachel would keep, Ashley would keep
that's you maybe
I don't know where I am
that's me
Lauren, Will, Ava
?? did he tell you he's gonna keep Vince?
Yeha but you can' tell Zach I said that
I was talkin to Rylie in the shower
Yeah he's gonna keep Vince
Did he explain why?
I think a lot of people don't think Zach would ever go up again
Morgan: I didn't talk to anyone. ?? think I'm trying to sway
I think a lto of people don't see Zach going back up again
adn then it literally comes down to us
we're the deciding votes
They laugh
Morgan: I mean to be fair from a game perspective htat means wer'e doing pretty good
I agree
I'll be honest, I didn't htink I was doing very good at this game. I hope you understand now why I was like kind of ?? that he ?? when he told me I was like you're an idiot you know that right?
why?
becuase he didn't use the poewr to save himself
yeah that's crazy
??
he might go home. Yeha that's crazy
that's the kind of weigh ti"m dealing with. He's liek I wouldn't be able to live with myself if either of you went home because i Was being selfish. Okay let's go for if Vinny stays. The pros of keeping, let's say Zach is gone. If Vinny is here. He has Keanu close. Kelley ?? Lauren likes him. Keanu is connected to Rachel so he'd be able to still get information from Rachel. That's the other thing. Zach ?? because Rachel trusts Zach
yeah but Keanu doesn't trust Zach
yeah but I"m saying we still ahve a connection to Rachel because of Zach
that makes sense
my concern is always having someone wiht a connection to Rachel so we know if she's coming for us
I don't think we need one. THe only people rRachl has is Keanu, AShley
I don't see KElley but maybe
Kelley. If we literally take out Keanu, Kelley's gonna come this way
I think so too
so all she'll have is Ashley and Ashley said she does not want to be attached ot Rachel so she' s been intentionall trying to ?? she'll have nobody
she'll probably get to Will
I won't be here, there, there, it definitely won't be here. It'll just be here. And we have them
How does Ava fele about Rachel?
Ava loves Rachel for sure ... you get wha tI mean? We don't technicall yneed. If we take away Keanu, we don't need
the reason I want Keanu gone so ?? if Rachel and Jimmy ?? Ashley ??
tha'ts what i'm saying
?? best case scenario for us ?? but I'm saying let's go over Zach and Vinny. If Zach stays, say Vinny's gone. Obviously he has Lauren. Them two are gonna be number ones for eahc other, but he's reall yhere with us because we hav ethe knowledge of his power he will never turn on us, right?
(nod)
he has people liek Kenau Kelle y who would take a shot at ?? right? I"m just going over. Katherine would take a shot at him. I Don't know i"M just speaking out loud
I'm listening
I don't see Ashley. I'm jsut trying to figur eout how this game would ?? if Zach were to stay around. You're right if Vinny stays, Rachel's gonna target him but Kelley and Keanue
love him
Katherine likes Vince, rihgt? Would she take the shot at Vince? Lauren would never. Will might
Will would take the shot. AVa would take the shot
AShley might
yeah Ashley would. I mean Kelley could
only reason I don't see Kelley doing it is she knows how I Feel about Vince ?? throw her out this house myself. So I don't see her doing that. I see her doing more Rachel AShley Katherine. She loves Lauren
yeah. Okay
Morgan: who do we like more? Here's my thing, this is m emotional side. Personally I Feel liek I'd have a harder time in this house without Vinny. I have you obviously. ?? without Vinny, I'm willing to put aside the personal. Id on't knokw. Zach staying ?? not liek indiffernet but ?? I'm just ?? at this point
Morgan checks over downstairs and says it's Rylie and Katherine
Feeds switch
Morgan: also knowing someone is willing to not throw their own game but ?? he was like are you sure? I'm like I did the math. She would not think about it never. No, no , no, no, and to me order of operations is this, and she promised her a week of safety. And I don't see her doing this. I personally thinks he would've done this only because of the perception, right?
Mickey: agreed
Morgan: that's probably what she would've done. I'm not mad at her. This would've pissed off this and she woudl never piss of fher
Mickey: that' snot true
Morgan: this early I"m saying
Mickey: I don't think she would care
Morgan: okay
Mickey: I told Zach, she said she (Ava) thought about this. I think that's what she really wanted to do
Morgan: that also ?? me out. Even when we sat down before I even knew he had it. ?? He's liek do you think ?? I Was like no because hwen I was on the hammock with Ashley adn Mickey when a brought it up was like yeah you probably are. rememebr she was like you hve the votes. I was like I odn't know. ?? and Ashley are way more cool than me and Ava ?? we can't htink about it now. What I'm saying is what's been eating me up all week is people think it's them two ?? on the block so I wouldn't touch it. Now I'm like what do I do in a vote to kind of balance that
Mickey: This is kind of liek the Adrian vote. Stress and stress adn stress, and it iddn't even come to fruition. They have a 2 to 1 chanc eof winning tomorrow. If you tell me Keanu is gonna win this blockbuster, I would be very surprised. He works wiell with slow nad steady situations. The blockbuster was 3 minutes. You have to work well under pressure
Morgan: Here's the thing, he's been preparing
Mickey: I haven't seen him preparing for nothing. He wne tot bed late
Morgan: this is the first ?? when JImmy hwas here, I just had a feeling your HOH was gonna work out. Whereas the other ones i was nervous. I don't feel like
Mickey: I don't feel ??
Morgan: no, ?? 2 to 1 so maybe what we can do is hpefully he goes nad we can just figure out what to do with that at some point, and maybe we don't have to fucking use it, and then it's like
Mickey: if we ?? I mean honestly like your gut has already told you what to do. We both agree tha twe're sending Kenau home no matter what
Morgan: and we keep VInny if he's on the block
Mickey: yes, we keep VInny
Feeds switch
Mickey: We can just ?? talk to him
Morgan: yeah we can ?? Lauren I think Lauren wants to make this choice
It's better for her game to separate
I think so too
Morgan: which tehcnically that is a plus though. If Vince is gone I wonder if people will start looking at them as a duo
Mickey: the whole house is full of duos. If Vinc eleaves, there's Keanu and Kelley Ava Will, Rachel and Ashley me and you
Morgan: Zach and ?? But the only good thing is the connection liek except for Rachel everyone is connected, well Kelley is kind of connected to me, we have the majority of the house connected to us, which esseintiall yhopefully protects us more than anything. BEcause we have all the people I'm saying that's a good thing. I just hope Keanu doesn't stay
Mickey: yeah if Keanu stays it fs up the game. Thsi is me and you, and Ashley hold on. So then this is Will
Morgan: we can do people who are in the middle then people who are
Mickey: no what I'm saying the people who are surrounding us
Morgan: this is if Keanu's gone?
Mickey: yeah. And this is like the (gears of?) people
Morgan: I'm putting this around both of us. Kelley, Lauren. Look at me I have my little lone soldier
Mickey: And then ashley. And then... over here. What I"m saying is it's a ring. Meaning the ones, how they are eliminated before you get to the center. If anything, and these are noms, so if someone wanted to make sure they don't touch us. These can be noms, these can be noms. These can be noms. SYou know what I'm saying? And foc ourse it'll change to twos
Morgan: I just know I need to lock in better. I just hope you understand why I've been a mess this week. What he told me was way too much to handle. I was unwell. I was crying for almost two hours by myself. I was like how the fuck
Mickey: No I get it
Morgan: and knowing he was like Morgna please don't tell anyone. I was like ther'es no way I could come into this without tellin gyou. Evne if you were like I want to keep Vinny. I stil would've told you because I wanted to know ?? and I'm glad I told you adn I feel like I just hope it's like a 2 to 1 chance but th eother thing I'm ?? is this man has ?? 1 in 6 opportunity 3 weeks in a row
Mickey: the first time ??
Morgan: I thought of that too. He didn't win that. Kaycee won
Mickey: he's like I'm a 3 time veto winner, it's like yeah but somebody won it for you
Morgan: a BIg Brother winner, comp beast. If Kaycee wasn't in it, Adrian would've won it
Mickey: agreed
They hear footsteps
Mickey: That's Rylie
Morgan: I just need to be a little bit better because I feel like i"m in a decent position but I can get into a bette rpositin. I don't know why I'm so afraid to talk game iwht people. I'm afraid htey're gonna be like you know what I mean? I want to talk more gamew ith Lauren and actually talk. You're th eonly person I do all this stuff, obviously beside Zcha adn Vince. And that's not good. ?? IMy perception was you talked game with everyone. I was like MIckey's killing it
Morgan: you're not supposed to
Mickey: No I'm just saying, you're killing it. BEcause you always have so much information. I suck
They hear footsteps
Morgan: That's Rylie
...
Mickey: what were you saying?
Morgan: I need to do better, beause I'm looking at you and you're doing so great
Mickey: I feel like you're doing good too
Morgan: really? I feel like sociall yyes but I Don't talk game with anyone
Mickey: you do talk game
Morgan: but ont game game. I talk votes and thing sbut i mean like real game. Like how you feel abouthtis. Even with Kelley I'm still working itno that. I feel like ?? she's had four weeks of no personal connection. I'm gonan do that tomorrow. I'm happy for her that she's excited to get ready and ddress and feel normal
Mickey: I think we're doing fine
Morgan: yeah
Mickey: Yeah i thinkw e're doing fine. We're just gonna stick to our guns. I guess we just did a reset. Gotta be honest
Morgan: the shit aht pisses me off was when he told me that I Was like (drops head). We were sitting donw. I was liek are you okay? He was like I need to talk to Mickey. Iw as like okay. HE was like I need to talk to Mickey. Iw anna tell her about this
Mickey: I love that. That's the reason I kind of want him to stay too because he's a complete player. Not to say Vinny is not
Morgan: That's the other thing. If I had to list one thing where Zach exels. Zach was a pro athlete, he knows how to lock in. Vinny was emotional this week. So was I. Soemtimes Vinny overthinks. I'm known as an overthinker but that can just, when I was having a bad day because of what Zach told me
Morgan turns over and see sRylie downstairs
Morgan: He thought I Was mad at him because the day that I Was fucking mess, he thought i Was mad at him ebcause i wasn' tlooking at him
Vinny?
Morgan: Yeah. So the last HOH ?? was tired, the power, potentially having to pick one of them, potentailyl losin you. THat was the shittiest day of my life