Zach joins Lauren in the HOH room
Lauren asks him what to do
Zach says he thinks she'd have better numbers putting Ashley up, but Ashley did just tell him that Lauren told her she's safe
Lauren says Ashley forces information out of people, and she genuinely still doesn't know what she's doing right now
Zach says he's not gonna force her to do anything, but it's probably best for their game for Ashley to go up. Him, her, and Vinny
Lauren says that Keanu's saying that his master plan was for him to go on the block and for her to backdoor Ashley, and now all the girls think that. So if she plays into that
Zach says so it'll look like she's playing into Keanu
Zach says he understands all that and Keanu's an idiot because he's making it seem like he's manipulating her HOH. The thing is Ashley is running her mouth also, saying she shouldn't be an option, and she's going to have three weeks of safety
Vince comes in and asks what this three weeks of safety thing is
Lauren says Ashley said she wouldn't put her on the block before jury
Zach says it's probably telephone happening
Vince says if it's a 7 person jury it's 5 more weeks. Maybe it's irrelevant
Lauren says someone tell her what to do because she doesn't know what to do
Zach says to tell Vinny what she said about Keanu
Lauren tells him about the master plan that Keanu is talking about, and that he says he's taking over her HOH.
VInce asks if she wants them to think that
Lauren says it's gonna make them think she's tight with Keanu
Vince says even when Keanu tries to help he messes things up. He (Vince) was talking to people downstairs and people like Morgan aren't coming for her. People aren't gunning for Lauren either way. They have bigger targets
Zach says he agrees with that
Lauren says she thinks the girls think if she puts up Ashley then she's aligned with Kelley, Keanu, and Adrian. They're grouping them together
Vince says people always try to group people together but that's not always the case
Lauren says at this point if she puts up Ashley, it's going to be a blindside because she thinks she's safe
Vince asks if she (Ashley) has reason to believe that. He told her (Ashley) the night before he made his nominations that his last conversation made him feel very uncomfortable and uneasy and she was blindsided about that too
Zach says it's weird because Keanu feels like the girls are strong-arming her right now with this deal, but also the other side doesn't understand why consider putting Ashley up. They both have this miscommunication thing going on right now, and can't figure it out
Lauren says she still doesn't know what she's doing
Zach says they just counted (numbers)
Vince says Zach Ava, Adrian, Rylie
Lauren asks if Kelley would hate her if she put Adrian up
Vince says not forever. But her game would end either way. He doesn't think people are gonna hate her (Lauren) either way. It's a hard decision
Zach says Adrian will be very upset
Lauren says either are gonna be very upset
BB calls Lauren to the DR again
Zach says Adrian was legitimately tearing and crying last night
Vince says he was very emotional
Zach says he's assuming Adrian told her he'd protect her and he's a massive shield. He (Zach) thinks either way they're gonna be frustrated with her, but all those guarantees he doesn't know if (Adrian would protect her anymore)
Vince asks who would keep her safe regardless, and who would specifically because of a deal until they forget about it. That's the only thing that concerns him about the offering
Zach says it could be next week she's okay... if she feels like she's at the bottom of their group... they could put her up before jury. That kind of situation
Vince says deals are broken every time in here
Lauren says someone's gonna be extremely upset with her, and she doesn't know. Someone's gonna hate her
Vince says no one's gonna hate her
Zach says either way he and Vinny have her back.
Vince says he made it clear it's best for his personal game for Ashley to go
Lauren says say she (Ashley) wins blockbuster somehow
Vince says he doesn't think she's (Ashley's) that threatening. He doesn't think she has that much sway. She's a number for them but she's not necessarily a leader in gathering numbers for her(self)
Zach agrees 100%
Vince says he understands what she's saying about the perception of not wanting to be viewed as working with specifically Keanu and Kelley but at the same time maybe they're not aware that eight people are guaranteed to be rallying around her (Lauren) regardless
Lauren says they don't understand that
Vince says Zach, Ava, Adrian, Rylie, Kelley, Katherine, Keanu
Lauren says she feels like regardless of the decision she makes, a lot of those people still won't turn their back on her. But if she puts up Ashley then that changes
10:57 AM BBT: Feeds cut for the veto meeting
Lauren asks him what to do
Zach says he thinks she'd have better numbers putting Ashley up, but Ashley did just tell him that Lauren told her she's safe
Lauren says Ashley forces information out of people, and she genuinely still doesn't know what she's doing right now
Zach says he's not gonna force her to do anything, but it's probably best for their game for Ashley to go up. Him, her, and Vinny
Lauren says that Keanu's saying that his master plan was for him to go on the block and for her to backdoor Ashley, and now all the girls think that. So if she plays into that
Zach says so it'll look like she's playing into Keanu
Zach says he understands all that and Keanu's an idiot because he's making it seem like he's manipulating her HOH. The thing is Ashley is running her mouth also, saying she shouldn't be an option, and she's going to have three weeks of safety
Vince comes in and asks what this three weeks of safety thing is
Lauren says Ashley said she wouldn't put her on the block before jury
Zach says it's probably telephone happening
Vince says if it's a 7 person jury it's 5 more weeks. Maybe it's irrelevant
Lauren says someone tell her what to do because she doesn't know what to do
Zach says to tell Vinny what she said about Keanu
Lauren tells him about the master plan that Keanu is talking about, and that he says he's taking over her HOH.
VInce asks if she wants them to think that
Lauren says it's gonna make them think she's tight with Keanu
Vince says even when Keanu tries to help he messes things up. He (Vince) was talking to people downstairs and people like Morgan aren't coming for her. People aren't gunning for Lauren either way. They have bigger targets
Zach says he agrees with that
Lauren says she thinks the girls think if she puts up Ashley then she's aligned with Kelley, Keanu, and Adrian. They're grouping them together
Vince says people always try to group people together but that's not always the case
Lauren says at this point if she puts up Ashley, it's going to be a blindside because she thinks she's safe
Vince asks if she (Ashley) has reason to believe that. He told her (Ashley) the night before he made his nominations that his last conversation made him feel very uncomfortable and uneasy and she was blindsided about that too
Zach says it's weird because Keanu feels like the girls are strong-arming her right now with this deal, but also the other side doesn't understand why consider putting Ashley up. They both have this miscommunication thing going on right now, and can't figure it out
Lauren says she still doesn't know what she's doing
Zach says they just counted (numbers)
Vince says Zach Ava, Adrian, Rylie
Lauren asks if Kelley would hate her if she put Adrian up
Vince says not forever. But her game would end either way. He doesn't think people are gonna hate her (Lauren) either way. It's a hard decision
Zach says Adrian will be very upset
Lauren says either are gonna be very upset
BB calls Lauren to the DR again
Zach says Adrian was legitimately tearing and crying last night
Vince says he was very emotional
Zach says he's assuming Adrian told her he'd protect her and he's a massive shield. He (Zach) thinks either way they're gonna be frustrated with her, but all those guarantees he doesn't know if (Adrian would protect her anymore)
Vince asks who would keep her safe regardless, and who would specifically because of a deal until they forget about it. That's the only thing that concerns him about the offering
Zach says it could be next week she's okay... if she feels like she's at the bottom of their group... they could put her up before jury. That kind of situation
Vince says deals are broken every time in here
Lauren says someone's gonna be extremely upset with her, and she doesn't know. Someone's gonna hate her
Vince says no one's gonna hate her
Zach says either way he and Vinny have her back.
Vince says he made it clear it's best for his personal game for Ashley to go
Lauren says say she (Ashley) wins blockbuster somehow
Vince says he doesn't think she's (Ashley's) that threatening. He doesn't think she has that much sway. She's a number for them but she's not necessarily a leader in gathering numbers for her(self)
Zach agrees 100%
Vince says he understands what she's saying about the perception of not wanting to be viewed as working with specifically Keanu and Kelley but at the same time maybe they're not aware that eight people are guaranteed to be rallying around her (Lauren) regardless
Lauren says they don't understand that
Vince says Zach, Ava, Adrian, Rylie, Kelley, Katherine, Keanu
Lauren says she feels like regardless of the decision she makes, a lot of those people still won't turn their back on her. But if she puts up Ashley then that changes
10:57 AM BBT: Feeds cut for the veto meeting