Morgan: I don't know what's gonna happen but I can't. The thing is I don't want ?? unless ?? there's no time
Vince; But there's no time. It's blockbuster.
Morgan: ?? and if it's like because I feel like Keanu is not gonna hurt our game ?? Rylie ??
you can pitch for me to stay if you're talking with Mickey straight up tell her that you have me in your back pocket. Say I have Vince. He tells me everything and anything. And if he tells me I tell you, so Mickey feels good because I"m an extension and any information I have she'll feel like she knows
Morgan: ??
Vince: right right right
Morgan: ?? Do you feel like ?? Keanu ??so either way ?? send Zach home ?? Keanu ?? but I don't want him ?? I can't ?? because I feel like ?? But I can tell Zach ?? So that's why ?? but I did tell him outside ?? I don't know if ?? No one can know about this
Vince: You were gonna tell me something when you ?? grilled cheese and Rachel went to the bathroom. You said you had to talk to Zach
Morgan: I told Zach ??
They split
Morgan goes into the bathroom to talk to Zach
Morgan: Question. Did she ever tell you?
Zach: She said
Morgan: Did she ever tell you?
Feeds switch to Vince walking back to the Box room
if she could get answers to what i need to know to then solve what I'm trying to figure out. That could potentially save both of you. Even if it's just one more fucking week. And all we have to do is win HOH and flip this house upside donw. If rachel doesn't trust people. I dknow she trusts Mickey. i lvoe Rachel and Mickey. I don't know if they would ever. I know Rachel called out you adn Vince. I don't know if that's osmethign she would be open to ??
Zach: It's game on so whoever ?? they're my people
That's the thing. I think people are, not people, I think Rachel. I don't think she's scared, but I think the reason we're being targeted is people know we're tight. Like you can't break it. How do you genuinely feel about Ava. If you won HOH would you put her up?
I would have a very easy reason to put her up
I was tlaking to Vince she came in the wine room adn sat down, when he comes he'll confirm. She was saying she doesn't have target this week
I heard ?? she's targeting Vince
she was ?? I have no targets. She gave him a hug. She wa slike yeah this week I Didn't have any targets, I was just letting the universe decide. She was like it would be really emotional, she was basically saying it would be too emotional for her to nominate a fourht.. I'm like wait a second, so I went to the drawing board and I'm thinking like
Vince comes in
I'm looking at the drawing board like okay let's look at the memory wall. She would never put up Mickey, Rachel, Will, Ashley. She wouldn't put up LAuren, Rylie, which by default she wouldn't put up Katherine. She wasn't gonna put up Kelley she wants to keep her off the block. So that's her and the three noms, which leaves me. She lied to your face regardless because she was only gonna hav efour people to put up. I think she didn't put me up because of the girls. I Don't thinks he threw the veto at all. BUt I heard Katherine was afraid Ava might put her up that's why she took the veto, that's what VInce told me. But I Don't believe that. I think Katherine and Ava are very tight
Zacgh: ??
Morgan: You not playing this game?
Zach: She was like thats the reason that she took it ?? veto keeping it the same
If she changes the noms, it fucks up her whole game. People would come for her. Mickey, AShley, Rachle, they all fuck with me. If she uses the ?? and I go up they're al gonna be fuckin pissed. THat's why I'm trying to figure out how to get both of you and ?? but I don't know how to do that. That's what I've beenn doing all day. While you were in the ?? and he was in a fucking egg suit
Zach: Yeah. It seems very clear ?? noms the same
Morgan: It would be stupid of her to use it because she's gonna make enemies
Zach: the only ?? is what happens in the scenario. Rachel told me ?? somebody told me that ?? you ?? have the votes to stay.
Was she implying Keanu?
Zach: She was not implying anybody. Just saying ?? votes to stay. So I told her ?? assume I've got ?? obviously it'd be a much more ?? situation ??
I'm assuming Lauren would vote for you. Id on't see her ever not voting for you in her life
depends
be so for real
Zach: I'm not speaking for her but I don't know. Vinny's thing ?? perception ??
Morgan: but he's not though
Zach: I know ?? Anything can change ?? I'm just saying
A lot can change
Zach: I think ?? Keanu ?? that would take Mickey ?? If Ava's being 100% honest ?? I think there's still ??
So when she told Vince "I don't have any targets". I think she was saying that cause I was in the room. Here's my thoughts. I don't know, I'm really pissed at Ava right now and I'm keeping that shit so tied to my chest. You don't want to talk game, and you want to throw people ?? She looked you in your face and said you're safe, so why do I feel like I"m safe. Cause you did the same thing to me. That makes me feel like okay you want to make me choose from my friends I'll make you choose from yours. Or I'll make you sit next to yours. I put her next to Katherine and someone else. And then deal with Rylie. Cause I would have to tell Rylie like this is not a shot at you. Cause he's pissed at Ava. I'm telling you if next week is Wall comp I don't give a flying fuck I'm winning that. There's no other fucking way. I do not care
Zach: If I ever win ?? going on the block. So, yeah ?? My main target would obviously be ?? Do Ava and then Ashley
Morgan: Personally I don't know. My only thing about Ava. I know a lot of people want her in jury but if she's not even willing to do one on ones with people for her HOH yall think she's gonna ?? in jury? When she ?? she just gets up and leaves. Are you kidding me? Don't piss me off. I'm about to get pissed off again ... I just really hope I don't have to pick between the two of you guys cause I genuinely don't know hwat the fuck I'm gonna do
Yeha
I was very unwell today. I'm still unwell, and I couldn't even go to the DR, so I literalylwa s in the gym for an hour by myself, just sitting there crying
Zach: I mean, like I said ?? I'm disappointed in the fact that ?? that would've made it a little bit easier
Did you pitch it to her?
He said he was gonna pitch it today and I trust that he did. Clearly she's not just, cause obviously ?? behind this
Yeah she's not stupid. She odesn't not have a target
100% So that's my point. If she's not willing to do that it's ??
Morgan: BUt the thing is you have to put pepole up with her that wouldn't be more tempting to send home. You'd have to put similar people up. Okay let me ask you this. If I won and I put up Ava, who else is liek Ava in your perception?
Zach: ??
meaning like if you sat next to them you would go home. Like if anyone sat nexgt to Ava
Will?
(shakes head)
who else? think about it, you're not gonna like it
I do not know
Morgan: think about it. I'm talkin gabout in the house. There are three people if you sit next to them you go home. Not counting Will
Zach: Lauren. ?? It's not true
Morgan: Anyone who sits next to Lauren would not go home
Anyone who sits next to Lauren would not go home
Anyone who sits next to Rylie, Ava, Lauren goes home
People perceive the thre of us
I don't know. I think they pair you two together because of the showmance or whatever else is going on
(shakes head)
I'm telling you right now. Ashley, Keanu different sides of the house have said that to me
They go by connection. THey know Lauren is your number one. I thought Vince and I are super close, and us three hang out
Zach: Lauren told me Rachel was upset because of Vince ?? so much one on one. She was like why are you letting somebody like that ?? HOH
yeah but that's perception. This is also stemming from soneone who isn't here anymore
??
it's not us four, it's that you two connect lauren and you two connect me
I'm tellin you, Vince and Lauren
also (she tells him to scrape out his ears)
?? I'm teling you
no I know they do, but I'm also saying that if Katherine sat next to Lauren, Katehrine would go home
yeah
If I sat next to Lauren
you're not. I'm serious
Zach. I know I Wouldn't have your vote
You actually od not know that
I do know that
I had a relationshp with you before I did with Lauren
I know but there's osmething more there and I understand that. You can roll your eyes
I don't understand why you're saying that
Morgan takes something off Zch's face
I understand ?? relationship
I know that
It's not that I"m ?? that's the way it comes off, and that's okay Zach
I'm gonna do what's best for my game
I know
It's the same exact thing that you ??
Morgan: well you ?? I jsut know with Lauren she woudl vote for you no matter who won
Zach: ??
Morgan: I'm just telling you my thoughts I'm no
Zach: ??
Morgan: Yeha, I udnertstand. Anyway I'm just trying to figure out some things that I received information wise, and I"m trying to figure out what I can do with that in a way to potentially save both of you. I know Rachel wants to work with you I don't know fi she wants to work with Vinny
She doesn't ??
what if miraculously you guys both stay. Like you can't work with Vinny and work with Rachel cause htey don't get along. So either they kiss and make up and deal with it the next couple week.s I don't know who Rachel's next target is. If she feels like she doesn't have people, you know how VInny ghets down. He wants people to trust him. That's all it takes. It' sthe same thing with me
Zach: I tried to ask for a why. She's like I just don't trust Vinny. I was like why. She wa sabout to ??
Morgan: It does, and that's the problem. She doesn' tundestand how much Jimy. I aldo don't think she understantsds Lauren pulled Vince. Her perception is Vince pulled Lauren. Lauren pulled Vince every single time
(Morgan brings q-tips over to Zach to clean his ears while he;s showering)
So she told you someone was targeting you. Did she even tell you what she was gonna do about it or how she's trying to help you?
No, I think
Morgan: In your nose too
(Mrogan brings him some toilet tissue to wipe his nose while he showers)
Morgan: Gotta love the goo. There's a mirror in there so you can see
Zach: I'll do this when I get out
Morgan: I'm just trying to figure some things out. So,,, U;m gonna talk t Rachel tomorrow at some point. But that's not who I need to talk to to get the asnwres I'm looking for. From conversations that I had today... I don't know
Zach: I'm gonna be honest with you, best case scenario that ?? thinking about the entire group. Best case scenario would've been Vince winning. Then again you'd be on the bloick. Then between me and you, I have no clue
Morgan: It just depends on... honestly, I don't know
what if Rachel knew that Vince would not put her up on the block. What if it was like look if in an ideal world lyou and Vince stay, not only does she have my loyalty regardless, right? And we do a thing where once we hit jury we figure it out. It would be like good luck. If she could be guaranteed if Vicne wins HOH he would never put her up. It might be a condition with never putting up Ashley or just her. Then that might be something
Zach: Yeah
the thing is does Rachel trust it and would Rachel return that favor. I don't know if Rachel would ever take a shot at RYlie or Katherine. She loves th showmances. I don't know who her targets are. I\'m gonna talk to ...
THe only ones she's made clear is Vince
??Rachel is super close with aShley and you're tight with Ashley
honestly it feels like ashley's the one that wants me gone. She's been a littl ebit different with me. Just slightly differnet. She won't give me eye contact not nearly as much. We haven't been playing around nearly as much, and she also, Rahcel also said she has no one in thsi game she feels like she can absolutely trust
She trust saAshley ?? since day one. That's interesting. She's been like this with AShley since Amy left
My take is that it could be ?? Ashley is the person say that but she doesn't want to give that up. She knows who she is ?? friends with Ashley. Or she doesn't see her as someone she can trust. Beause if we're being honest Ashley is sloppy in this game
Morgan: ?? I'm telli ngyou whe nI was talking to Vince today I Was like if you say and let's say the ultimateum is you not putting up Rachel he's like I wouldn't fucking touch her
Zach: I just like, if the entire... she's had public blowouts iwth Keanu since Zae left
Morgan: she's also squashed
Zach: which is so stupid. I would never do that. If Vince can come to a middle groudn with Rachel then we have a fighting chance to keep all of us in
Morgan: I know
Zach: So I thinkg Rachel ?? part of this. I='m gonna take every day
Morgan: This is the one thing I told Vince. I told Ashley this I don't know fi she's gonna tell Rachel. ?? I said Rachel shoul be in jury. Vince agreed with it
Zach: Yeah
Morgan: But the thing is I can't campaign for both of you to Rachle. I don't know how tight she is with Kenu. I don' tknow if sh'ell tell that to Keanu
Zach: legitimately all I can do right now is have mor eone on ones with Rachle. I honestly think her telling me ?? publicly said my name and is trying to target me, I think that's an olive branch. She's like Zach why haven't we legitmiately talked since week 1, week 2. I was like I fel like you just got closer to Jimmy,a nd ?? closer to the heavy hitters
Morgan: what did she say about hte aliance thing?
Zach: she said it was done it was never a thing. We never met
Morgan: That's very true
Zach: ?? I never talked game iwth her and we were in an alliance
Morgan: (laugh) "alliance"
Zach: so my take is all I can do is take each day and sit down with her and see if she'll feed me any more information. ?? like obvioulsy and Vince are friends in this game and I do want to work with youo is there any way we can figure this out. Maybe that type of conversation
Morgan: especially if Vinec. I'm tellin you I asked Vince rtoday. And obviously he's gonna do anything for his life. I would too. If anyone was like don't target this person I'd be like say less. I don't even know who that person i
Zach: Maybe he doesn't have any leverage because he's on th eblcoka nd she's not but there has to be something that can be done. Maybe it's something where we all sit down like let's redo this. The heavy hitters part ?? let's have six people and get every single person to the end. At this point I'md own for that because I thought I had Ava. Clearly I don't. There's other people
Morgan: you were like this with Ava, and Ava wqas too afraid to put up Katherine. Sh eoculd've at least put up me
Vicne returns
I was telling Zach. If there is a way that both of you can stya. If it's kind of like ?? He was Rachel for the past fuckign 12 hours?
I was trying to leave. Kelley would not give you guys alone time. She was helicopter mom
Morgan: Kelley was pissing off everyone. And I'm actually mad at you. You told me you were gonna give me a hug after ?? and you hugged Kelley
I'm sorry I'm delirious right now
Zach hugs Morgan
Zach: I have a headache becaue I've been up for so long
MI'm still mad at you. Anyway, I'm gonna go to bed. I'm gonna leave you to I don't know make out or whatever. Oh, it's weird hugging you (without the suit)
Vince: We'll talk more tomorrow too. Let me get my mic on
Zach: So, Rachel volunteered because she watned to get closer ot me for this
Vince: of course
Zach: okay, talkign to her, I'm like what has happened over the last like week? What is going on? That we hash this out. Like I told you, she played victim, then all of a sudden, this that and the other
Vince: If I have conversations I have to wear this
Zach: oh seriously?
Vince: Yeah, but continue
Zach: and her response was just like it seems liek you and Vinny kind of broke off from the heavy hitters. We didn't really discuss things from week one, which is true. And it didn't feel liek we were really an alliance. That's a good point. ?? To me it felt liek she broke off with JImmy
Vince: I was just gonna say that it was on the tip of my tongue
Zach: I said I felt the same way. I have always eanted to work with you. I said you're integral to my game because oyu are a big name and I need those peopl ein this game. I'm hoping I'mt he same for you in terms of we can work off each other, figure something out. I straight up asked, we were talking, and I was, what is, it seems very clear to me you're targeting Vince righ tnow. The way you reacted in veto. The awy you've been talkin to him the last week. What's going on? Sh'es like Vince is my target
Vince: of course
Zach: I'm like you have to explain why. He's one of the closest peopl ein here. I'm like if you want to work with me it doesn't make sense
Vince: It's an exgtra number. If she wants to work wiht you I'ma n additional number for you
Zach: She was fighting trying to tell me, and she wouldn't tell me
Vince: I don't think there's a valid reason I don't know how this started
Zach: My guess is it's JImmy. Fed her lies. He fed lies about me. He fed stuff that wasn't actually true to other people as well. he fed it to Kelle,y about me, Ashley about me. And I know Rachel is trying to extend an olive branch because she told me, the reason I'm in this cage with you is because there is somebody that's throwing my name out and being vocal about it like lewt's vote Zach out this week
Vince: who is it?
Zach: I was like who is it? She owuldn't tell me
Vince: You think it's bullshit?
Zach: It could be. It really could be
Vince: I don't know a sinle person who would be like let's get Zach out
Zach: I thinks omeone lik ethat would be an Ashley
Vince: Oh
Zach: That's another thing. She told me. I'll be honet with you everyone I trusted in this game has been voted out. Amy, Jimmy. I'm like if you pair that iwht somebody being vocal enough to say let's get Zach out this week. it's someone JImmy said lies about me to. Or not even lies. That's what MIckey told me that Jimmy told Ashley that. I've been paying attention, Ashley's been a little bit different with me. I think ?? and Rachel saying she doesn't have anybody she feels liek she can trust. Has to be AShley
Vince: yeah. That woul dbe surprising to pitch you over me though. She doesn't have anything with me
Zach: It's probably because JImm yoltd her I Was targeting her. And Rachel telling me I don't think you'll be voted out blah blah. But what I'm trying to do, if I can get closer to Rachel for the next couple days liek legitimate one on ones trying to see if we can work somethin gout and see if you can come toa truce
Vince: I would love a cease fire. I didn't want this to begin with
Zach: If we can ?? with her, a dream asituation, ?? let's actually have an alliance, and let's ride together. That's what I want. IF we can do that, poitentially saves both you and I in blockbuster this week. Have you talked to Kat? I feel like you're th eonly one she could use the veto on today
Vince: I told her today I"m not gonna talk game today, just gonna realx, I'm kind aburned, and I know she has a lot to process today. So I said let's catch up tomorrow and she said yeah
Zach: have you taklked with Lauren?
Vince: Yeah
Zach: I don't see. The only awy I see it with KAt is she took it to say I'm playing this game to keep the noms the same. But I'm like if anyone can sway her it's you. The only thing is, and you have to play our game, next person goes on the block is MOrgan
Vince: I don't want that
Zach: It's MOrgan or Kelley and I feel like It's morgan at this point
Vince: if ?? it would be to make sure Kelley is the repacement
Zach: Here's the big kicker. After I gave WIll the london trip he immediately pulled me and said that's a move beyond thae game. I onestly was just trying to give it to him. He said let me talk to Ava and Kat. I want to take you off th eblock with Kat's veto, tell AVa to put Will on the block. And I"m like. He's like you can't tell a soul. I'm like perfect. He's like I'm gonna talk to her. He came back and said that's not what Ava qwants to do. Ava's told Morgan she doesn't have a person she's targeting, but I'm like why would she ?? do that. Will' never oging home. Nobody would vote him out. It would take one of us oiff. ANd I feel liek she's targeting me you or Morgan if one of us comes off
Vince: Fuck. I don't want. We need to both get out of this somehow. The good thing is your move today I think it was a human move. Id on't think you did that for gam.e I think you did that as a good person, and I think good kharma translate that as an incredible game move. Will will never vote you out. You're in a similar position to RYlie last week ewhere every body felt bad and nobody's gonna vote you out. ?? free London trip to WIll of all pepole. That' s?? for oyu
Zach: we need to figure something out for you though
Vince: ?? not ?? Morgan ?? It's not a sufccessful week unless all three of us make it through. ?? unless I get Keanu to throw me the Blockbuster
Zach: you think he's safe against me?
Vince: I think he thinks that. I know for a fact he's not
Zach: okay
Vince: but he's gullible. He thought he was safe the past two weeks
Zach: I dont' know what's wrong with him. I'm gonna tcontinue my talks with Rachel to see if ?? Morgan tells me there's this master plan but she won't tell me. She says she has one more step ??
Vince: Morgan has a master plan?
Zach: That's what she ?? I don't know
Vince: She's been stressed dude. SHe was gone for hours. I found her and her eyes were bloodshot. She's pissed that AVa's HOH is stupid
Zach: she answered one question correct bro
Vince: and WIll got one quetsion wrong
Zach: and we get slapped in the face for it
Vince: and for us to go home on a week liek this? That fucking sucks bro
Zach: and the people planting that your hands are in multiple pots have no reason to say that
Vince: it's so hypocritcal why do I have nor elationshp with AShlye, Rachel, Ava, Will? If I have my hand in every pot wouldn't I be good wiht everybody? I'd be telling ?? one thing, this person one thing. They're describing Jimmy as my game. I think Rachel started that because she wants me gone
Zach: It's her or Kenau
Vince: I don't know who but it's frustrating me. I know Mrogan is going to work but I want her to go to work the righ way. Id on't want her saying the wrong thing to the wrong people
Zach: If it's me, Morgan, Lauren, Katherine, Rylie
Vince: Kelley
Zach: six
Vince: I feel confident about four of those. Do you think Katerine and Rlyie keep me over Keanu?
Zach: I know Rylie likes you over Keanu. I'm like brother we need Vinny in this game 100% I feel like that's the case
Vince: I agree. Adn I feel at my core Rylie and KAterhine would pick me over Keanu any day. So if it comes to that it' spossible
Zach: I think we can do it
Vince: I don't knwo what Morgan' splan is. I don't want her to go rogue. I saw her talking to AShley and that's the worst person to talk to about either of us. BUt she fucking cares a lot and she is torn about this
Zach: I know
Vince: and she oesn't even give a fuck about who knows. SH'es literally like cards are drawn, these are my friends and that's it. And I fucking respect her for it, a lot of people don't do that. I know she's working, I know she's putting in overtime. But I don't know what the master plan is to keep us both here. TH most bullet proof plan I can think of is if the veto's used on me and I win blockbuster.
Zach: I think you need to win Blockbuster soem way some how
Vince: I do too. I'm not banking on Katehrine using it because she doens't want to upset anybody. Who's she gonna upset? They're all mean girls to her anyway. THen Rylie wins HOH then all fo a sudden they need numbres
Zach: It's crazy how this game changes. How people forget what happened the wek before
Vince: IT's fuckign crazy man. Id on't understand how
Zach: I'm going to sleep
Vince: Do you think I should talk to Katherine? I don't want to risk Morgan going up
Zach: You have to protect yourself. I tell you the same thing I tell Morgan. At this point we have to protect our selves. We don't know for sure MOrgan is next on the block. We do know there's a chance Kelley goes on the block. There's a viable chance. If we can also sway Mickey to have some sway with AVa. Anyone in this moment, we can put this together if we can. I can even try and push Will a little more like look man. And we can figure something out. I don't think it hurts to try a little bit more
Vince: Yeah, Of course
Zach: and I think
Vince: We have to fucking try. There's got to be some kind of way to make this happen
Zach: Are you wearing all parts of your punishment costuem?
Vince: My fault I was just about to take it off
Zach: let's get some lseep because we have to figure out some way to make this happen. And I have to campaign in this and people aren't gonna take me seriously
KATHERINE WON the VETO! "If she doesn't use it, f**king great. I don't give a f**k. They're all going up!" - Big Brother 28 Spoilers | OnlineBigBrother Live Feed Updates
It wasn’t just any Veto Day in the Big Brother 27 house on Saturday. It was the punishment comp day! Lots of silliness out of this one with Vince now dressed as an egg detective and Keanu bec…
Morgan tells Ashley that Vince would do anything to stay. If she told Vince and Zach not to go after her or Rachel they wouldn't
Ashley says her question is who would he put up then
Morgan talks about Rylie and Katherine and says they're separate and ??
Ashley says it's a lot to think about, but she sees her point. She just hasn't talked to Zach yet, but she was gonna talk to him anyway. On a personal level she obviously... If Keanu wins then obviously but if one of them win then something could potentially transpire
It sounds like Morgan said she thinks Keanu could potentially throw the Blockbuster to Vince. She sees them talking a lot. Tucker didn't use the veto on himself when he was on the block
Ashley says she'll be back, she's going to get tea
Ashley leaves
Mickey joins
Mickey's laughing about Will trying to do a C when he meant to do a heart, and she had to show him
Mickey drinks her tea while Morgan showers
Mickey: How did your thinking go?
Morgan: Pardon?
Mickey: how did your brainstorming good?
Morgan: it's good. I'm still gathering some things. And I'm trying. I'm gonna run stuff by you and I want you to honestly. You might not like them but you can't blame me. I feel like I'm cooking bro. And ?? it involves keeping both of them if it's possible. And just let me release what i think and you can let me know what you think
Mickey: Okay. When you're done we can go upstairs. I'm gonna go poop first
Ashley helps Morgan with her stuff, and tells her that her, Keanu, and Will were int he kitchen and mostly everyone else is in the rooms. She tells Morgan she'll think about it
Ashley says she'll be back, she's gonna get her tea
Mickey says she wante dto connect with her to pick her brain, and asks what she's thinking
Katherine says about? Veto?
Mickey says veto, yes
Katherine says she's thinking she's not gonna use it. She just thinks of scenarios with renoms she would be comfortable with and there's not many options. Her keeping it the same guarantees ssafety not only to her but to other people of course. It just makes more sense to keep it the same
Mickey nods
Katherine says for literally everybody other than the people on the block. With that being said, voting, when it comes down to it, is she feeling the same thing she said the other day? She's down to talk about that She's starting ot lean more toward one way than another
MIckey says which way. Tell her first, or her
Katherine says Mickey first
Mickey says she's thinking if it comes down to Zach and Keanu, Keanu is abigger shield for most of them because he wins thing. Zach has won one thing and hasn't performed well in anything else. Keanu keeps Rylie off hte block. They go for Keanu before Rylie. If it's Zach vs Vinny, she would choose to keep Vinny because she thinks she's capable of beating Vinny in comps, just liek KAtherine proved. So they're good on that end. Zach hasn't been performing well but in a physical comp she oculd se ehim winning over Rylie or they're neck and neck. more comfrotable having Keanu and Rylie to ensure they're not going up over someone that might put up Katherine
Katherine says before they had the talk the other day she wanted to keep VInny over Zach. it was down to Keanu over people where she was like okay, really think about it. She thinks he's better ot keep around. She just thinks, and she knwos Mickey knows alreayd, very cautious about things you say to him and stuff. Nothing. SHe's not showing her cards to him, anything like that, ever. She's not gonna risk itunnecessarily without exchsnging information. he's still safe, they're still safe and Rylie's still safe. Ther'es no exchange needed for that. She's not gonna risk shit when it's not necessary. But she odes agree. She hopes Zach doesn't take himself off if it comes down to Keanu and Vince. She's not ?? that decision, she oesn't feelfull comfortable with. That one's kind of like... Vinny's also somebody that she thinks, she doens' tknow. It's hard to tell who he's actually closest to in this game
Mickey says he's close with everybody
Kathreine says that's what she's saying but who's his core. Everybody thinks they're close with Rylie, but that' sjust because he's nice. But Vinny talks game with everybody. Rylie doesn't. obviously, no shit. Rylie intentionally leave sconversations (laugh)
Mickey agrees and says he's smart about that
Katherine says she feels like Vinny does talk game with pretty much everyone in this house
Mickey says yes
Katherine says she feels liek she would rather have him here for her game over Keanu, but at the same time him staying here is also better ofr Zach's game than hers
Mickey says it is
Katherine says If Keanu stays it's better for her game than Zach or Vinny's
Mickey says if one of them leav eand Keanu comes down, there's a shift
Katherine says she feels more at risk with Zach than she does with Vinny or Keanu. Not in the near future but eventually. On the flip side, she feels liek Zach is more likely to put people up that maybe she doesn't want to have ot be in a position to put up than Vinny is. Vinny is a little bit more cautious, but
Zach has to win something to be able to do that
Katherine says exactly. But also Keanu is more likely to do that too. She just worries he's easily swayed,a nd it all comes basck to the fact he's waiting on extensions of information blah blah blah. But she does think even Keanu knows there's people to respect advice from more. She feels like they'd be in a better position than other people if Keanu was HOH to be like
Mickey says cause he blood on his hands, he'd be a target anyway
Katherine says yeah, she was talking through reasons
Mcikey says she likes her reasoning
Katherine says a lto fo what MIckey said, she thought of that too, and she's trying to think from many angles. It does make sense for Zach on the block for Zach to go home, and Keanu on the block then Keanu stays either way
Mickey says she thinks Keanu is a winner but if it's a mental comp tey' re all mor elikely to win than him, and they can put him up. BUt in her midn she was thinking having ?? Vinny amkes them strong, and they have to (split them up)
Katherine: Vinny's working ?? Zach. ?? having conversations with a lot of people, but we all have people that are higher on the piority list and I think they're both on people's high priority of keeping around
Morgan: I agree
Katherine: I am more ocomfortable iwth one of them going than Keanu going. I don't think Keanu's anyone top priority to keep in this game. It's not even easy nom, I think that's bullshit. It's the fact that there's people that are never gonna put them on the block, and a lot of poeple. So AVa putting them ther ei don't know when that's gonna happen again
Morgan: I was like who else would put Zach up? I don't thinka nybody would. Will ?? I techcnically can't cause Morgan. You ?? I don't think Rachel would now cause they got close last night. Lauren wouldn't. Morgan wouldn't. Rylie wouldn't
Katherine: no
Morgan: That's already six people that wouldn't. Vinny, Rahcel would put Vinny up. Ashley would
Katherine: I know Rachel initially wanted Vinny and Zach up
Feeds switch
Mickey: Wait what were you saying?
Katherine: I think those were probably. I think Rachel =?? with both of them going up
Mickey: She'd put up Vinny for sure
Katherine: ?? would've put up Vinny ??
Mickey: yeah. Will woudl put up Vinny. Rylie would put up Vinny. I think there's more people
Katherine: I think Rylie's more likely to put Zach up, or Vince, well shit. Maybe neither
Mickey: I ?? Rylie ?? really wouldn't put up Zach ... How do you feel about Kelley? Like honestly (laugh). I knwo she's trying to like attach herself ot people
Katherine: Yeah, don't read too much into that. For me, she's one the people I just nod to. She doesns't really talk game to me, she just makes random one off comments and I'm like okay. I feel better about her being here for now than other people being here
Mickey: of course
Katherine: I don't think she's a threat at all. I think that blockbuster ahs really saved her ass. At the end of the day she's done trash at HOH and veto
Mickey: I agree. What's crazy is last week she would've gone home technically if I hadn't done what I did. We could've easily sent her home
Katherine: yeah
Mickey: cause I was thinking about what my noms would be if I won. I was thinking of putting her back up there. I think Iw oudl do her, somebody else I don't know. I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't putting up people tha tpeople were attached to. I alsodon't really want her in jury. I idon't know where she gets her decisions from. It's kidn of weird to me
Katherine: I'm on the fence on ?? jury. I'm not definitive. I don't know how much it's gonna... ?? I can't see that quite yet. If I was HOH next week, I don't think I'd be in a position that IC ould put her up
Mickey: okay
Katherine: I think ?? pretty safe with her if she's HOH, but keeping ?? pre-jury or double eviction ?? turn aroudn it's quick
Mickey: you'd be able to do it then
Katherine: I'd ?? put her up if it's double eviction. But... if I have a week for putting her up, I don't know if ?? I'm putting up with that shit. But if we're split, or additional eviction, blah blah howefver they do it. As logn as it's not like a week of gameplay. I put her up for double for sure pre-jury. I feel like she might be a sketchy one to put up because their list is growing. I think right now ?? against you ?? I thinks he ahs ?? a couple of the guys in the house that aren't Rylie
Mickey: ?? I know
Katherine: she's like I Would take this shot this shot
Mickey: the only thing I wonder is what shot she'd take if we sent Zach home. And Jimmy home. Who the hell woudl she target? I don't know if she's bold eough to put up Keanu
Katherine: nods
Mickey: you think so?
Katherine: She'd put up Keanu. I think she maybe would put him up. THey're not close, they've just been in the same boat
Mickey: I sensed that too. I felt it was happenstance
Katherine: I thinks he would put him up because he's also an easy third nom for her. She doesn't owe him shit. They don't owe each other shit. ?? Keanu ?? put her up either
Mickey: lets see how it works. I agree about the veto thing. Whatever you did I was gonna garee anyway. It keeps the target off your back
Katherine: If I wanted noms to be differnet I wouldn't have taken it you know what I mean?
Mickey: true
Katherine: I strongly consdiered throwing it, for someone on the block and the HOH to win it for themselves, then I was like no I'm not doing it
Mickey: It's good for your resume
Katherine: (nods)
Katherine: I was like no, I was being stupid ... like absolutely not. Not to say that I was guaranteed to win it
Mickey: You needed that win. It was the craziest. That's the very firs tveto you ever played in
Katherine: I know. I had to tell them ?? veto. They were like we didn't know that
Mickey: really? And you won the first. THat's crayz. That's how it was meant to be
Katherine: ?? my name was drawn
Mickey: I was proud of you though
They high five
Mickey: I told you at this point I trust you so we're good. So we just have to figure out who wins the blockbusters
Katherine: Obviously the ?? are gonna talk to me. I can' tsay anything
Ava comes over, then goes to her HOH room
Mickey: Of course, same boat. Mum's the word. THen, we're almost there. I think obviously we'll find out next week if it's 9 or 7. If it's 9 they'll say it next week. if not, then we know we got
Mickey: Yeah. I couldn't hold on anymore. You disappeared. We were like where'd Will go
Will: I went to sleep. I was like I can't do no more. Like you said it wasn't fun anymore
Mickey: I felt bad
Will: so aggressive
Will: ??
Mickey: Am I bothering you?
Will: No I'm just not liking groups. You know ?? one of those moods
Mickey: What do you do when you're in one of those moods? I have them twice a week
Will: In here?
Mickey: No in real life
They laugh and continue talking
Mickey asks what he does when he feels that way
Will: ?? just watching the kids play
Mickey: Sometimes I Feel like that too
Will says watching twenty year olds make stupid jokes and laugh and feel funny
Mickey says in here, she does what she does with her younger sister. When she's with her all she does is shake her head. That's all she's been doing here
Mickey says today is August 10. So it's day 35?
Will says 34
Mickey says he's right. 34 so 44
Will: mhm
Mickey: Will, that's crazy
Will: It is. It's ridiculous if you think about it
Mickey: Is it weird to think that people might forget about me
Will: shit. ?? machine and she ain't answer the phone
Mickey: that's not funny but it's funny. Maybe she was getting her hair done or something. ... 24 days is insane. And it's gonna be 90 or 88
Will: So like half way
Mickey: I know. I feel like I might be misisng something
Will: well not like half way
Mickey: kind of
Will: it's 80 something real days here right? So we're at 34
Mickey: Oh, no we're not. I think ?? after next week it's gonna start to speed up. And the ?? part is the less people here, th emore alone time you get
Will: Yeah for sure. When Jimmy left, I was lik ewow. Big personality. It's really, it really changed. The house
Mickey: It did
Rachel comes over
Will: We're just talking about JImmy how his dynamic has changed the house. The volume of the house
Mickey: Yeah
Will: It's really changed. Like if Rylie was to leave it'd be absolutely quiet in this house
Mickey: Mums the word for sure. There would be no type of energy at all. It'd be very mellow if he left
Will: Yep. Oh that slop
Mickey: That's what he said? Oh they'll eat it soon if we do the wall comp. He never had to be a Have Not
Rachel: neither did Ashley
Mickey: I know
Rachel: Could you imagine Ashley in that egg whatever, not competition, punishment
??: I could never
Will: She would've died. She left in the middle of the night
Rachel: I kind of feel like she would have
Mickey: She wouldn't have been able to lay down
Will: She would've got a penalty. It's no way
Mickey: Even watching you guys in the beginning it was funy. Goo hahaha
Rachel: and we were laughing
Mickey: yeah. The third time I'm like
Rachel: I don't even know if Ashley could've handled one (laugh)
Will: First one. There's no way.
Rachel: I ?? you (Will) could've done it but would have wanted
Will: heck no
Mickey says she could've done it but the only thing was she wouldn't have wanted it in her hair
Rachel: I mean I had that stuff in places
Will: (laugh)
??: Seriously?
??: Yeah
Feeds switch
They talk about Rachel "manifesting" Rylie and Katherine
Mickey gives her a high five
Rachel says she made sure they understood how beneficial it would be to their careers
Rachel bonds with Will over being the older people in the house, and how they're playing this game with kids who aren't as mature as they were in their twenties
Rylie says ?? He wants to make sure they're on the same page, so when it comes to the day, he doesn't know if days change, but soemtimes he forgets shit
Mickey says it seemed like he was upset that's why she came out here
Rylie says no he's just wondering what's going on
Mickey asks what happened
Rylie asks if they're keeping...
Mickey asks what he's feeling right now. Be honest. Something happene dtoday tha t?? Keanu, but that's neither here nor there
what?
Mickey: he runs his fucking mouth. But it's okay. Go ahead
If Vinny stays, everybody already wants him the fuck out of here for some reason. he would not be afraid ot make big moves as well cause he don't have nothing to lose in this game. So no matter what if he make sa big move people would expect hat. So if he won HOH he could throw some poeple up. It wouldn't be a wildcard. He'd be candid about it. He'd want people on his side. He's not saying for sure but he's thinking about this shit. Vinny wouldn't be afraid to throw, if they talk to him and say you need to throw blah blah blah, he's already a big target. And then Keanu was a big target but people are starting to like him so it all switched
Morgan walks by
Rylie: I just don't know
Morgan asks to chat after
Mickey says train room?
Mrogan say sshe's just walking by at this point
Mickey say she'll come find her
Mickey: Go ahea di'm sorry
Rylei: II'm just trying to think
Mickey: ?? My thing is this, if we keep Zach and Vinny fdoes that help our game or make our game not good? THe only thing abotu Zach that bothers me is he hasn't come to talk to me at all. he's ont he block and he hasn't saidshit to me. And that bothers me. It doesn't psis me off. Nobody has to be pissed off but I'm trying to figur eout who makes the msot sense fo rus long term. I don't know. Id id think keeping Keanu made the most sense but I haven't talked to Zach ?? he feel sso comfortable which is great for him but at the same time I know for a fact that Zach qwants to take LAuren with him. that's not somebody for me. I think he'd pick Lauren over me. Over you
100%
th eonly thing about Keanu I liek is he doesn't have people but it's hard to be Keanu's people when he odesn't shut the fuck up. like he can't hold fucking water. It pisses me off
Rylei: His game is fucking so terrible
yes
and it's been fucking terrible
it's shitty
on the couch ?? dragging my name into shit I wasn't suppsoed to be drug into. That's why I called him out. Keep my fucking name out your mouth. Motherfucker said nine people. Whne did you ever talk to me about that shit? ?? cause you like me