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Mickey and Morgan talk

Mickey: but the issue is if Keanu stays who's gonna put him up

Morgan: probably everyone

Mickey: who?

Morgan: probably everyone

Mickey: Not Rylie. You think Vince would?

Morgan: What if we don't have to put Keanu up right away? Right now he's looking for pepole to work with

Mickey: But he doesn't keep his mouth shut. But the one good thing about Keanu is he doesn't like you know who

Morgan: He what?

Mickey: he doesn't like you know who

Morgan: who's that?

Mickey: our minion

Morgan: I'm not following. oh he doesn't like Ava?

Mickey: no

Morgan: I'm not following

Mickey: Ashley

Morgan: Oh, I thought you said Armenian. Yeha he doesn't liek Ashley. BUt this is me being straight up. Every time we stick our nose out for Ashley

Mickey: I just want her in jury that's it

Morgan: But there's a lot of people that don't want her there. I'm never trusting Ashley again. Last night I geneuinely thought

Mickey: She tells me verything you tell her. And everything she and I talk about she tells WIll and Will tells me

Morgan: I'm not gonna trust her at all

Mickey: Ava doesn't trust her. You want more information?

Morgan: yeah what the fuck is that?

(They're kind of joking)

Mickey: sometimes you don't tell me stuff

Morgan: I tell you as much as I physicall ypossibly can. I sometimes think Zach bullshits me and I'm trying to figure out if he is or not. I need to mke sure you look at me as someone who's solid

Mickey: Ava told me and you can't tell anybody this ever. Ava told me she was really thinking about putting Ashley up

Morgan: really? I'm not even joking dude. When I was sitting I thought it was gonna be Ashley's face not Zach's

Mickey: but it's the WIll Ashley connection that I think stopped her from doing it. We're cool. But Ava told me from week 1, she saw me and Ashley are cool. She said Mickey you'r emy girl but I don't trust her. Iw as like that's cool, because Ashley had came ot me about something and asked me why doens't Ava do x, y, z, and I was like I don't know. ?? Ava told me to tell Ashley because she doesn't trust her

Morgan: ??

Mickey: here's the thing about Zach. I know you love Zach. I think Zach use da little bit of the fact you liked him

Morgan: I'm not stupid

Mickey: He and Ashley used to talk about you in regards to that. So are you saying if we were to get rid of Zach or let Zach go, we shifted with Keanu and Vinny?

Morgan: Keanu told me specifically he trusts Vinny more than Zach

Mickey: isn't that scary?

Morgan: No ?? we can trust. Keanu is a number right now. He doens't evne trust Kelley

Mickey: but does he trust Rachel because that's the scary part. Nobody would have ?? Zach would have ?? but I heard she wants to work with him now. We know she doesn't trust Vinny, which is good

Morgan: but Keanu doesn' trust Zach and Zach doens' ttrust Keanu

Mickey: but Keanu trusts Rachel and Rachel doesn't trust Vinny

Morgan: right, I know. The thing is is like, the other thing. How does Ava know about Keanu?

MIckey: ??

Morgan: so I don't know if Zach. I'm just trying to think about groups I could work. Zach doesn't want Ashley. Lowkey I feel like I"m tired of telling her shit, and she tells me to my face what we talk about will never leave then the next day she does that. I was just trying to gather things then come to you. I don't even get a chance to do that. Now I don't even feel like talking to anyone and gathering stuff and talking to you. Tjat's just bad game. I can't just not fucking talk about shit

Mickey: Put her up I don't care. I think Katehrine ??

Morgan: she doesn't talk game with me

Mickey: She talks game with Rylie. I talk through ?? that's fine

Morgan: But I don't want to take the Katherine shot

Mickey: if we go without ever doing it, then we have their trust. If someone does take the shot and Katherine goes to jury it would be ??

Feeds switch
 

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Ava continues talking with Katherine in the HOH room

Katherine: this doesn't leave us

Ava: please, it doesn't

Katherine: ?? pissed me off. Just for the reason you're handling it with more grace, but I have trouble with.. do I have htis not give a fuck in this game kind of vibe. Do yall not value me? WQhen was the last time you tried to show me you benefit my game?

Ava: Bitch, now I"m thinking crazy. Imagine you say that during the renom. Twin bitches. You dn't have to. I was crazy

...

Ava: I don't take it personally. Peple are taking it personally. I said I feel like I"m living in a house with teenagers

Katherine: From what I can guess tha tpotentially, we are pretty much in agreement at least like upcoming frew weeks

Ava: I can see us, genuinely. This is what i love abotu you. At least for hte next few weeks. Thank you for being like forseeable future. Not me and you forever.

Katherine: I would want you on my jury

Ava: same

Katherine: I want that

Ava: I like the way you think. I'm just, it's hard talking. This house

Katherine: I like the idea of a few people on my jury. And I feel like I would wanna be on your jury

Ava: yes. I think that's a very sad way of thinking about things. And I wish we'd talked sooner in the game. but that's just the way ??

Katherine: week one is not always gonna be your

Ava: yeah, I know I mean. Come on

Katherine: Who I like. First impression intiail things with certain people, I've really flipped a switch with it

Ava: same

Katherine: I appreciate ?? I'm playing this game. I'm acknowledging changes. I'm seeing things. That's important

Ava: It's improtant. I don't know. For some reason it feels like this HOH is so differnet. It feels different, maybe I'm wrong because i"m in themiddl eof it. But it feels so different

Katherine: I agree

Ava: It feels so different in the house. Although I ahte doing that, it says more about the players than me

Katherine: I really wonder how hard Zach and Keanu are really playing. Are yall really? Keanu's forced to play hard righ tnow. But is he figuring out better ways to play in other wyas? I don't know

Ava: These people are

Katherine: Insane

Ava: cray cray

Katherine: I agree

Ava: Listen, even ?? this week moving into next weke, I'd like to move together, whatever that means. And same for ?? I don't know where you... after Monday, Monday will happen and assumingly that nobody is taken off th eblock, people I mean people are already talking about who they're voting for

Katherine: mhm

Ava: but that changes.

Katherine: I know I'm trying to gauge it

Ava: but what's being said today is not what's gonna be said Thursday. That's why I don't wanna talk about the votes until Wednesday'

Katherine: I get that. I'm definitely trying to gauge becaus e?? shit that I don't wanna hear then I'm using it, just kidding. I really don't think I'm using it. I have a best case scenario for sure

Ava: okay

Katherine: but every week everyone has a best case scenario

Ava: that's fair

Katherine: it's not necessarily my happiest

Ava: no. Ther'es no situation. Even Keanu, he's not a bad human being and I yelled at the kid. He's not a bad guy, it's just this game makes us do crazy weird shit, our emotions are feverywhere. Frankly, and I would be sad if he went home, if Vinny went home, if Zach went home. But... yah

Katherine: It's exhausiting

Ava: and I just feel like genuinely other than Mickey, but even that was like, that was cway cway what mikcey did but that did somehow felt different because she put up Keanu Kelley. ... so it was a backdoor. Jimmy was trifling. Love him. Don't speak ill of the evicted. Frankly I can understand why people... I feel like this is the first week that really there isn't abig JImmy JImmy. There's people that get on people's nerves. There are people that gossip, but Jimmy was his own breed. God bless him. And I know as soon as Jimmy left, they were liek well there goes our TV show. The snake is gone. Bitch

Katherine: Nope. We're stepping up

Ava: the background bitches are stepping up. I'm tellin gyou if you won that HOH next week. Heads will roll

Katherine: Heads will roll. I will eat that shit up

Ava: My God

Katherine: I want it so bad. Literally I want it, like fo rme. I'm gonna be like yall see htat? Yall see it?

Ava: This past HOH did I want it/ I want every HOH. I will never throw it. I knew Rlie was a fast guy, I was like I"m just gonna lock it in

Katherine: which is smart because he was pressing that shit before

Ava: But I would'vebene happy if Rylie or Will won because I Feel safe. It wasn't lik eI was gunning gunning, it was like well let me answer to see if I got it right. I'm sorry I'm so tired

Katherine: no yall were up late

Ava: after tomorrow, I mean, my job is done. ?? the votes, and if there's a tie and frankly I'm not afraid to break a tie if there needs ot be one. I'll play it that way. Can you imagine? Taht's the thing, I try notto play too much of a talk talk tal kt shit talk shit talk game

Katherine: sometimes people talk to me I say okay great, don't tell me you said that

Ava: sometimes in this game ignorance i sbliss. You knwo Zach's saying this about you Ava. I don't need to know

Katherine: I do the same thing sometimes

Ava: What is it gonna benefit? Zach's talking shit about me. Yeah I put him up on th eblock. He's upset. Maybe I'd do the same thing. Same thing with Vinny. I put him on the block, maybe I'd do the same thin.g I don't need to hear it

Katherine: You don't

Ava: especially for a decision that was completely impersonal. I let them know that in my speech. You have your hand in so many pots ?? gardener. Did I fucking lie? no

Katherine: and at least that's what it looks like

Ava: and if not then ??

Katherine: ?? frankly he didn't talk to you ?? it's a game

Ava: I'm over it

Katherine: you're killing it. I'm gonna win HOH

Ava: Yall win HOH, I'm ready for htat

Katherine: You're safe

Ava: Same Katherine

Katherine: ?? like you

Ava: I like you too. You seem to have a good head on your shoulders. Which is a thing a lot of people ?? I'm gonna take a nap. I'm so exhausted. If you wanna hang out in here. You and Rylie or you and Lauren want a place ot sit ID on't care. BUt i'm gonna take a nap

Katherine: I'll tell Rylie he can talk to you later

They hug

Katherine: Have a good nap or ?? session

Ava: Thank you

Katherine leaves

The camera turns

Ava shrugs

Ava: Well, I guess the veto's probably not gonna be used. Which is good cause frankly I can't take anymore headache
 

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Zach talks with Ashley in the lounge

Zach asks if he has her vote

Ashley says if it's him against Vince, then she'd probably vote with the house

Zach asks if he has her vote vs Keanu

Ashley asks who h'ed put up

Zach says now, Ava

They talk about the vote

Ashley says she feels like it's 50/50

Zach says his target truthfully would be Ava

Ashley says who else

Zach says probably Kelley, and then Keanu to keep noms the same. Ava said she understands if he does put her on the blok. BUt it's dramatically shifted for him the last two days. Turthfully he hasn't thought baout that since he's been on the block

Ashley says she understands that

Zach says his taget has changed, but he doesn't know where the house is right now

Ashley says she's heard all things. She really doesn't know. She's not gonna sit here and lie to him

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Ashley asks if there's anybody else

Zach says Rchel. At this point he feels she's good for his game. He wants to workw ith Ashley. Will. He wanted to give him that trip. He vibes with AShley, Will, Mickey, Rachel, Morgan, Lauren. He thought it was very set in stone when they had 8 remaining, or the 8 that voted to keep Adrian

Ashley says yeah but then nothing ever happened

Zach asks if it's the same people for her or has it changed a little bit

Ashley says a little. She doesn't know how much she can say righ tnow but a little. She's been liking Vince a lot more in the conversations they've had. Every now and then they talk, but they've never been close. She's been trusting Morgan a lot more. They've been building the last 24 hours. Having conversations. There's one person she's like she's trying to figur eout. She can't comment further but yeah

Zach says one person in the names he listed she doesn't know

Ashley says she doesn't want to say which it is because then it'll make it obvious. But she's just being more observant lately. She feels like that's her role now as a person. Talking less and observing more. She's trying to figure things out. She knows Will loves him. So fully trust him. He's not voting against Zach in any scenario. That's at least one vote she knows he can count on. That's one person saying openly where they stand. Everyone else is holding their cards closer trying to figure out what they're gonna do. She doesn't think people know because this is a crazy week. She doesn't know wher eAva's mind is. She didn't even talk her in the nom 24 hour window. She knows even Will seemed surprised because he and Zach are close. He would never want him up ever. But he's the only person she knows for sure right now that's like this is what he's doing. She does liek Ava, so it's hard. She knows pretty much all three of them are gonna put her up so that part doens't bother her. THat's kind of the trend. Someone puts you up, especiall yin recent weeks, put them up

Zach says he has more reason because he chose her week 1. The fact that she iddn't give him a warning is crazy in his mind. He had a conversation with Rachel. She's like I Believe oyu have the votes but people's perception can change three days leading up. He understands that. He full yunderstands

Ashley says on a personal level she doesn't want to se ehim go. He's one of probably the five or six people in here

Zach says same with him

Ashley says she knows they probably get on each others' nerves and on the outside they wouldn't because they wouldn't be together 24/7. She understands where he was coming from, she just wishes he would've talked to her

Zach says they should've talked. He said it so casually. He was saying who are the people that have somewhat rubbed him the wrong way, and that was the one thing he thought of. Put that on top of the JImmy situation, and then her mixing the fact that they were trying to get something going, but nothing ever happened. That's wher ehis head wa sat when people asked him. So he apologizes. That sucks. He dind't want to hurt her feeling sin any way shape or form. He wasn't like absolutely I'm gunning for Ashley

AShley says that's fair. But he's never someone she would've put up. Not for a while at least. That part just confused her. It's just a lot to think about. But it's hard because they have a lot of the same mutuals

Zach says he knows, and he's trying to figure out a way for them to reestablish game connections. It sucks that he has to do this at this point, and he doesn't know how he can repair their onneciton but if there is anything, let him know

are those really his targets

Ava 100%

AShley says the other two or is there someone else

Zach says no. Ava would be his target

AShley tells him to quiet down

Zach says he's just tired. It's been Ava Kelley Keanu because that's what he thought the house wanted. Not Ava but. Then all of a sudden it's like okay. If they hash out everybody, Kat told him to his face she doesnt 'trust him. That's fair. If he targeted her, he has to face Rylie. He and Rylie are cool. Would he want to hash that out now, he doesn't know, probably not. So that's wher ehis thought process is going. If you have ot do process of elimination that's where it comes to Kelley, Ava, Keanu. Keanu has blown up multiple times in this house. He feels like people did want to see him go. He doesn't understand why it's not a straight vote anymore. Maybe it's because there are different noms on the board right now. That was his intiial thought. Now if it is a split vote, let's say he takes himself off the block adn its' Keanu and VInce. He'd have to figure out why it's not a striagh tvote, because last week it would've been. So is it because Keanu has repaired relationships. Which, to be fair, he saw her Rachel and Keanu up there. So he's trying

Ashley says he is

Zach says so he'd have to reassess and take a step back for where everybody is leaning. So when she asked him are those the people, they are because he doesn't know who else it could possibly be. She was a name he thought of because of the whole JImmy situationa nd what happened int he past. Those are legitimately the reasons

They continue talking

Ashley says guesses then it just comes down to, this is so much to think about, with these particular three. It's just hard cause it's like moves have to be made. And it's like she has to think about he stays safe this weke, or she votes to keep him. Someone wins the next weke, but then the nexgt weke is he gonna take a shot? Who is he... that's hwat she's trying to figure out with each person. She also has to think about more than

Zach asks right now if he'd be someone she wants to see in jury

AShley says yeah

Zach asks if she'd want to see Vince and Keanu in jury as well. That's really the question. THey've hashed this out before in the HOH room, during Mickey's. They had a few people that were questionable but everyone else was set in stone. He'd want to see her in jury. Does she feel the same with Keanu and Vince. Sdoes she think they'd vote in an emotional sense or what did you do to win the 750k. He feels like he's one of thte most even keeled, so he would want people thinking the same way

AShley says she iddn't think he' dbe on the block this early

Zach says he didn't think so either

Ashley says she wouldn't have thought either him (or Vince) would be on the block this early. But same wiht JImmy. So it's hard to be in this situation with noms she didn't think. Potentially it could be him vs Vince. THeir relationship is leaps and bound sover that, but then it's like gamewise she knows Vince wants to take shots.

Feeds switch

is there anybody she thinks would be a danger to her game in jury. Why would she wait until jury. If she wants to take a shot for her resume. Whenever you get to your final speech to the jury, all the questions revolve around gameplay moves that happened while jury ?? with those people. So before jury it has to be people you're afriad you would never get their vote. Or someone who's a major liability. So when he asks her who would those shots be. For him Jimmy was one of those people. He would have emotionally swayed the house, and if he was upset at him, then he'd have no shot at winning. He doesn't know where Keanu stands or where he'd be that type of person, because he even said he's playing the same way JImmy layed but better. What does that even mean? He's said he put stuff in multiple rooms so he can listen to differnet converastions. Zach hates that. If it's people that they aren't aligned in and they're in jur that's where he's gonna be like ??

Ashley says 100%. righ tnow. The people she has least connectionw ith are Katherine and Kelley. She thinks most people don't want them in jury. They both know Morgan and Mickey don't. But Mickey made it clear she's not taking the shot at Rylie and Kateherine

that's fair because she already stole it from Ashley

AShley says she knows Morgan would. She know Vinny is ?? to do anything at this point. Zach's connectionw tih Rylie, she doesn't seem him putting Katehrine up

Zach says he's had this converastion with Rylie before and said he has to understand their first time they talked she said she doesn't trust him. Rylie's tried and over and over to tell him she's gonna be av ote for him. He's like she's her own person

AShley says sh thinks everybody sees that

Zach says between the two of them, he doesn't think Vinny, he's heard from people that openly say Vinny's their target. He thinks Rachel is gunning for Vinny. HE doesn't know. The way she was reacting. He's also heard from Will maybe Ava's targeting. He's heard that aroudn the house

AShley says she's heard the same

Zach says especially since AVa said Vinny had his hand in multiple pots, it's like is she leaning toward VInny out, is that gonna sway the house. The reason he says that is she just said Vinny is desperate cause he realizes where his game is at. Zach personally doesn't fele like his game is completely in trouble, so he's trying to stay cool, but in terms of taking a shot, he would not be afraid to take a shot at Katherine adn have ot deal with Rylie afterward. That's someone they agree should not be afraid of. If their people, Mickey's afraid to take that shot, that's not good. Would she be willing to take that shot?

Ashley says yeah, Katherine would put her up. She thinks it'd be her, him, Rachel. Or her, him, Kelley. Rylie wouldn't put him up

Zach says that's why he wants to work together. If he wins HOH, he wants to have this covnerastion. If it's better for their group for him to take that shot he's not afraid. They have ot figur eout the shots they want to take before jury. Because htey're getting close

Ashley says potentialyl if it's 9 it couldbe next week. Either way it's in the next two weeks or three. She just wishes they could've gotten on the same page before. But

Zach says if they have the same targets, the same mindset, he's willing if she's fine with Ava, he's willing to not make her his clear target, and put up Katehrine in that three, if that makes her fele bbetter about htier situation. Katherine has been someone he's thought of. When Mickey was HOH that was someone she was consdiering. So he was like that' sfine. Katherine told her befor Mickey won she didn't trust him. So that's his viable reason

Ashley says she remembers that. She's heard that AVa's not coming for him truly. Thta's just what she heard. She doesn't know. Ava has a mind of her own

Zach says can he trust her 100% after she told him he's not going on the block then he's on the block

Ashley says of course not

Zach says that's what he means he wants a group going into jury where he can say who is our target, one of us win HOH who are all of us pulling. If they have final six, then they can go. So he understands that the whol eJImmy situation, him mentioning her name, that has some distrust in him and he apologizes for that 100%. But she has to understand where his mindset is in that moment asd well. he feels like iwht everything they just said, he wants her in jury, she wants him in jury, he feels like there's still a chance they can repair this and take that chance together. He feels good wiht Mickey and Mogan. He feles good with Will. That's where his head's at

Ashley says there's so much to think about. Sh eknows he wouldn't put Will up. And she loves WIll so she's good with that. She loves Rachel. She feels like he and Rachel are very

Zach says after the JImmy vote ?? console her and at the HOH comp, he doesn't know if she noticed

Mrogan says whne he's free can she talk to him. And also, hi Ash

Ashley says she was like is she mad at me

Morgan says no, you're fine girl

Morgan leaves

Zach says at the last HOH comp, Rachel called his and Vince's name emphatically. He didn't select her when he went first. Then it was Ashley and Rachel. Rachel won and emphatically said Vince and Zach. He was the first person in the group to go twice. So him adn Rachel went back and forth multiple times. He had a conversation with her after like what the heck happened? Why are they doing this. Rachel said she wanted to work with him since week one, but it felt like they drifted apart. He got closer to Vince, she got closer to other people. He said he got that but he wanted her in jury. If there's any way they can coordinate a gameplan, get it together, talk game, he's all for it. He doesn't awnt to pin each other on separate ends, so Rachel was like they'll figure something out. She told him that there's one specific person targeting him in this house. This is an olive branch. He odesn't know how. But she told him there's a person. He felt like she was trying to build trust with him. He got that punishment and she wanted ?? She was like she wanted time with him to talk. ?? In the beginning they were able to talk. SHe was like she feels like he's good with the majority in the house. She doesn't want to see him go home this week. She wanted to establish trust with him. He knows Ashley's good with her. He's trying to be good with her. He thinks she's good with Mrogna and Mickey. He knows she's good with Will. So if ?? group forming, that's the top. He knwos ashley's good with Lauren. He's good with Lauren. He'll never say anything bad about Vinny because he's a goo dfriend, but in terms of mindset, he and her have had the same gorup the entir etime. ?? He doesn't know if it's the type of thing where if he makes it past this week they figure it out. Maybe she's still in the midnset of voting with the hose and he respect sthat

she wants to do what's best for her game. Sh eowuldn't vote out someone that ?? when she decides what she's gonna do she's gonna do it. She odesn't play the game scared. She knows she's an easy third nom. That' sobvious, jut because she doesn't vibe with a lot of people here. It doesn't mean she odesn't like them, just they don't have a lot in common. She's looking at who's gonna put who up, and who she'd be next to. Not by him but liek the KAtherins sand Kelleys and unknown in this house. So what she's thinking is she's thinking about the people hs'e sworking with and who would be next to her

They continue talking
 

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That could be a while they talk for a long time

It can't be a while we have to talk now

I'm gonna get called pretty soon

and we also don't ever get time, us four, so it needs ot happne. Maybe I should be like

Mickey: She's gonna tell the whol ehoues. I wouldn't do it

yeah

So how do you feel vinny?

I'm jsut gonna go to the kitchen and make some noise and see if he'll come out

Good idea

Morgan leaves

Vince: I feel like I"m. I don't feel like I've layed the best game but I know I"m not stupid. I've got a decent read on things and I know I'm the target. I know from Ava's speech. Vince you have your hands in every single pot and you're VInny lip Penaro. I was like what the heck?

I'm sorry that was funny

I couldn't even try to roast her. I just gave her my last name like you know what? whatever. If that's what you want to do compelte your roast. Proceed. So it is what it is. The frustrating part for me is I don't understand how that became such a strong arrative wiht me. I think the point of this game early on is to make friends and you don't know how ?? are gonna fall. So of course i make connections. Id on't know if it becamse taht way because Keanu likes me a lot but also I was very close with Morgan or becaues I talked alot of game with JImmy week one. BUt then I did talk a lot with him week 3, 4, and 2 was kind of minimal and people are viewing that as ?? Rachel aws kind of in on that and she's like he's playing both sides in case he stays. But I didn't want it to be that way for th epeople who actuall know where I stand. That's why I ran it by you. I'll say ?? help me. When you do find yourself in tough situations, what do you say>? And the blockbuster throws a whole new element so it's tough for me. It's almost freeing knowing you're a target. YUo're like fuck it you have nothing to lose

so you just have to take yourself down

but at the same time it's scary cause i don't want to go home. A lot of people know how bad I wanted to play this game. Going home week 5 dressed as an egge especially. THat's fucked. Now I ahve to campaign lookin gliek this? It's so hard to have conversations

I'm lagughing ?? because the whole outfit

I aprpeciate the eye contact because if you start straying I know ytou'll be distracted. Yeha. So that make sit harder. Extra element to this week fo rme. Especially getting second place. But I think second is worse than any other. If I keep the $5000, Katherine wins first, she says I'm not gonna upset RAva, so I'll take the five grand. Second place is the worst. So I'm frustrated. I still don't udnerstand completely how this Rachel Vince war began. Maybe I screwed up on my social side. SHould've donw a better job . TH eonly defense i have is how am I the one who has my hand in all the pots when I don't have relationship with half th epeople in the house. ashley, ?? Ava, I thought i did with Will but I have a bad feelin ghe doesn't care whether I'm here or not. that's not having your hand in every single pot

First let me ask. Would you like me to give my eprspective?

Pelase

Id idn't want to give without it being wanted. When AVa said it. I'm a very logical person. The first thing I Did was analyze my experiences wiht you, Zach and Keanu and how things hav ebene perceived. I talked to Ava after a nd a littl ebfore also. Not advice ?? She's not a big gamer, or I didn't htinks he awsuntil she did. BUt it always came across she knew who was gonna go up. ?? week one, whoever squirms the most that's who I'm puttin gup. And she's been saying that week after weke, and she's a boss, she stuck to it. With you I have seen and noticed that you do what looked liek a lot of one on ones with people in the house. After you were done with your HOH reign, the same method you talked to people as an HOH, you contineud to do that. And outsidrs who don't undertsnd you in general that can look like you're talking game ot person after person. Even me, I would be sill yo say I didn' thave that perception as well> When Morgan approached me for that, I trusted her. Despite you and I had a good moment, but talking to other people, it seemed a lot of other people shared a similar moment with oyu. That' what made me feel like maybe it's strategy. So thos ethings kind of worried me a littl ebit. I hkept holing on to the fact when you and I connected I thought it was real . Now where we're in a situation where we're all inclusive. some of the things that worried me was the fact we might have to choose. I'm ?? who would i feel most safe with. Who would align best with not only their own but my own too. And also who has made me fele like I"m more than just af our. BEcause I would be stupid to think this already existed

if people are grouping us automatically nad you enter

this was already there, and then I came in, I would be foolish to think. I'd be first one ine, first one out. When things are going on, Id on't hear them from you or Zach, I hear them from Zach

Morgan returns

Morgan: I made as much noise, fucking nothing

Mickey: So now it's to the point where i have you, him, and someone who's not ?? but always been nice to me, and who talks to me. Communicates to me about game, but them two people that i agreed to somethign with, they don't. So that's kind of where i'm at now as far as my thinking and thoughts. and if I had to make a choice betwene you and ?? it's understanding who would value me as much as I would be okay with valuing them. If I'm in something I'm gonna stick to it, but I have knowlledge that's not gonna ?? and like I told you the connection between you guys, it's a concern. We're playing ?? games at th ?? I would be sill yto think you guys ?? talked to AVa before the noms. Neither one of you guys talked to me about it. Nothing. ?? when I put up Jimmy that's when there was a lot of communication. ?? But now where there's a ?? where you might go home or him ?? I don't ?? anything

I didn't want to ?? It was you WIll Rachel, it was only three. We briefly talkd outside and you wer eliek I Don't know what she's gonna do. Most she said was she thinks it's gonna suprprise some people. I try not to pry. I also didn't believ eyou knew a ton. I didn't think Ava said Vince Zach easy. I think that's where I screwed up ... I think people saw me as swayable or impressionable. I tend to get pulled into rooms and it's hard for me to say no. They want to pull me to this side, they want to pull me to this side ?? I think taht screwed me up. and if I feel good baout peopl einteranlly, I think the hard part about htis game is I need to continue that externally. Rylei si someone I connected with day one, but then I saw the game he was playing and felt he didn't want to be connected with anyone. NOw ?? rely ?? for a vote and I'm like ?? Focusing on the friend aspec t?? also feel like if I have connections with people. If I'm connected with MOrgan, Morgan's onnected with you, then maybe we have (understanding) ?? that's where I feel my regrest in this game. Just because I feel good ?? what i Would or would not do, I need to do a better job communicating that. If I'm hearing Keanu's doing a great job of making you feel connected with or Zach, that's wher ei"m looking in the mirro rnow like I for sure fell in that aspect

The same concerns you have with Zach, he raraely pulls me. I have to pull Zach. Where Vince will pull me. That's where I am just like, I don't know, with him particularly. Because I don't understand if you're in a four thing, why am I not being pulle din certain situations. I'm just hciming in

Vince; Yeah I know. It's hard. It's like 90% social and 10% competitions, but the social side when there's so many people. And I thought being first HOH would be better for me because it would pull people to me. FO rme to pull people ?? or interrupt ?? that's hard for me to do that. You could think we were cool day whatever but guess what a month has passed and where has the reassurance ome, where I don't know if I've given you any. So it's a safe assumption. I'm still very excited, I love tha tgroup, but if you feel excluded in any kind of way or have an ounce of doubt about me or Zach then how are you gonna be 100% in

mhm

and i had even doubts to wher ei Wa slike

See if I can ?? them again

Mirgan leaves

Vince: I was thinking on way Jimmy up. I was thinking I don't know exactly what your thought process is on this. Whether you want to make big moves or be strategic about the right shot at the right time. IF you aim you want to hit the target. THen you do it and it's a success nad everybody has nefound respect fo ryou. If I communicated my thoughts ?? there would've been no ?? What is that worth now that I'm on th eblick that you would've been nobody that I nominate unless it was final three or something where we have to look at someone. I didn' teven ?? with Zach either, because I didn' tknow the perception that ?? Morgan and I are close, and I'm okay with that at this point. I feel liek I have nothing to lose, I can't help but refelct on al of my shortcomings in this game. I've had a lot. THing sI Would've done differently for sure, but I don't knokw, it's a weird game. You see things form, they crumble. You see things are, they're not. Just cause I want to talk to somebody or feel good about them I still have to do it. So I am very sorry. I never wanted you to feel doubt. I'm sorry if you ever felt like an outsider pulled for a number. I never viewed you in that way because Morgan trusts you with her life. And if she trusts you then we're clean. I would never nominate you. I hope you believe hta tbecause she's th alast person in this hosue iW ould ever want to upsert. If Morgan tells me MIckey is untouchable, even if you and I never talked game, I never would. I get too emotional. know i Would never do anythign to hurt her game, and you're good for her game, you can't read my mind. So yeah I'm more sorry than anything for not having more conversations to at leats let you knwo what I'm thinking on any given week. Just literally say Mickey wahat are the votes this week, what are you thinking? But at the ned of the day I wasn't doin that with a lot of people. People asusme I am because of all the one on ones, but even you someone i consider one of the closest allies ?? that's not having my hadns in too many pots that's not having my hand in neough pots. I need to do a better job of ?? relationships. So it sucks that i needed to have this moment on the blcok ?? Zach ?? Put that effort. Don't just assume. Why would I assume we're automartically gonn abe the same just because I feel good

true

these are just things that are clicking later than they should have. But things speed up on you. And it's only gonna speed up more from here

I know

so as I think about who I want to align with they need to know that more than before. So was I trying to build relationships

Morgan returns

still talking?

Morgan: went to the bathroom, fake peed. I'm not gonna lie to you. Ashley's stratring to piss me off. We were talkin gabout stuff last night. I was talking about ?? between you and Zach and ?? I feel like she's saying everything ??

Vince: Be careful with her ?? and that's fair that's not someone I ever planned to work with . Not personal reason. It was just from the fisrt nominations our games just did not align. So I'm not gonna fake that nad be best friends iwth everybody. I always knew if Ashley wins HOH I'm probably going on the blocka dn I have to own it. And maybe that's where this feud with Rachel started too. I never talk to her

They tell Vince to calm his voice again

I don't think the Rachel thing starte with Ashley

Id on't evne think it started with AShley. I think ?? communication

that and th eperception people have of you in this house as well as the consisten conversation with everyone. I thinkt aht is something although people will consdier as someone has their hands in too many pots. It's not a good thing of course, but I think it's also something Rachel excpets of her. I also think you'r ein the postiion she wants to be in

that's exactly

with you being in it and her not being in it, you pose as a threat to her

Morgan: A lot of things I've heard her tell me, she says we don't have discord she just doesn't talk to me, I'm like you van talk to him

the thing about Rahcle once you get something in her mind it sticks. Cause I even asked her she never said why, she just sid you have to go

She's the person if she has an inkling I would target her, it's too little too late. She's laser focused. She'll stop at nothing ot make sure that happens. Which sucks. I don't think I'm the biggest threat right now. I just don't htink that's the right move for this week. Obviously I'm biased but...

Mickey: since we're here. If in fact it came down tro you against Zach, although that doesn' sound great because of what we said we're going to do, if you were to stay over Zahc, what does tha tlook like for our games goin gforward? I know for a fact zach would be willin gto put up people MOrgan and I cannot and vice versa. I know some people you are close iwth that I don't htink work best for my game. I don't know how Morgan feels, but I think we have people we can shuffle around. I'm curious what you would be capable/comfortable iwth doing. Like you said, the game is moving fast. ?? nice to stick to a plan and execute it. ?? comfortable that it' san inclusive thing. Does that make sen? Cause if it's not, it wouldn't work for me. I'm not saying this is yes or no, I just want us all to feel comfortabl about something

Morgan; I told you I wanted that in general ?? certain talks and iflling you in. And I've apologized. Th ehardest part was getting all four of us in a room and being intentional abou tit. I know that's what i Want to do going forward, That's what he awnts to do. I think taht's what Zach wants, he can' tjust leave ?? Ashley. There are som epeople we can' take shots at ?? like she said. BAsically this morning I kind of got into a weird thing with Rachle. She came at me lowkey

why?

somehow when I said she owuld be great for jury, it got back to her. And she didn't like that. And he was liek you and your "friends" referring ot you and Zach. So that means either you or Zach tgold Rachle

Vince: I never namedroped you in my life

Morgan: Now there' sother possibilities cause i said the same to jury. So she knows people want her in jruy and she' fired up about it. She' slike I"ll be in final three

Mickey: She said no matter what

Mrogan: she's willing to tear the house apart. She said how disrespectful. I was just like. She's like you newbies all this stuff. ITw as ?? fo rme. I ?? competition. Mickey ?? comepttiion. I'm like Rachle I'm not saying that I didn't want you to go far. I told her week one I'm gonna take her as far as I possibly can. I'm one person. I said ?? jury ?? checkpoint. You'v done this before ?? I'm a newbie. ?? make her think I'm this lost little puppy ?? now I'm curious how Zach's conversation went with Rachle. She said ?? little friends ?? now I'm looking liek what the fuck. We're suppose dto be working togegehrter not her own benefit

Mickey: Will told me Rachel said she watnst to work with Zach. I don't know where it came from

Morgan: Zach told me the same thing. ?? trying to get this with her in it. BUt I don't know. I even asked her this morning. She's like how are you. I'm like ?? trying to ?? if they get picked off one by one I think we're next. She's like why do you think that? I'm like don't play mindgames. You played this game before. ?? Huge taretert. I'm a huge target. She's like who do we need to take out? How do you know I'm a target? So now ?? you know what? fuck it you can go ?? getting her to jury figure it out. I was never gonna put her up. I even told you don't put her up. Now i'm like wow, maybe approaching it in a different way. What have you done for your game that' beneficial for my game and I could've said all the things I did, but now I'm geting pushed against a wall and i don' tknow how to ?? HOH ?? shot at her

is that one of the people ytou would want me to take a shot at her?

Mickey: ?? becaues of Will. will and I are very close and he and Will are close

Vince: Zach is in a tougher place than me because he is friends with everybody. so for me if there are people you want me to take a shot at, I just want to have fun and make my allies safe, and make a name for myself by doing big things

would you ever take a shot at Lauren?

If I had to

Mcikey: If I ahd to I would

Morgan: If I had to I would too

Vincwe; I would not want to. ?? Rachel, she's already declared war on me so I might as well lean into it

MIckey: Love Lauren as a girl but ?? I think Laruen is the only girl that could beat us

Vince; I feel very close with her

Morgan: which is why ?? would have her ear

Mickey: Woudl you have her ear enough where she put up Rylie, Katherine. Probaly not

Morgan; someone eventuall yhas to take the Rylie Katherine shot. The other thing, he's taking Katherine down 100%. If Katherine is on the block and he wins veto, he's taking her down 100%

MIckey: ?? taking Katherineout. I think it would bring Rylie closer. He already trusts her and I. If she's gone. All he wants is to make it to jury i swhat he says

Vince; That was my main goal too

Morgan: That was how i was moving with Zach. I knew I would have ot take a shot at Lauren

Vince; He would be very upset about htat

Morgan; I don't give a fuck. I know he would choose Lauren over me. And that's what psises me off. He can't say that shit to my face. I asked him twice on purpose. ?? I told him I have your back and ?? came up ?? both said like love oyu whatever ?? brought up ?? we were talking and he basically said he'd take me over Lauren adn I didn't believe hta for a second. He's like I would go to bad for yall adn you would still lie to my face? I'm like ?? but this is a fucking game nad your ass is on the line right now but he's very comfortable with having the votes so I don't know. I wish he was here so we could talk about moving forward. He always say gh wants to play the game so prove it then

Mickey: I agree becaus ebeing honest. If in fact Vinny and Keanu stayedm, I know Kenu would take that shot at Lauren

Morgan: but he wouldn't take a shot at Rachel

Vince: He would never

Morgan: we need more people who would take a shot at her

Vince: Is that the selling point? Putting up Rachel? Becaue I walreayd put her and Rachel next to each other. I was like no one else is doing it. Everyone's asking for volunteers

Mickey: ?? if ?? gonna be in an alliance ?? we want to be on the same excat page. At th ene dof the day we only ?? one person ?? first time I felt good baout it. Seriously it's not about you sellin gme to stay. BEfore ?? invovled, we had a connection. In this game it's all about building connections. I didn't even know about your last name until Ava asked. When she asked I looked cause I Was like what is it? But liek seriously. At the same time we never checked in again until IW as doing something that benefitte dus. I was like hw as okay with my ass going home. But that little unit, me you and JImmy ?? we talke dbaout stuff ?? so if we're gonna ?? I want to trust it

Vince; I own up to that. that's my fault. I should've been way better with my communicationa dn affirmation. I think everybody that's close to me knows you are someone I would never ever ?? and if this is something where ?? stay and Keanu goes, this is a reset for my game. Because now I'm fired up

Mrgan: Don't get too hot you might crack

Vince: Start bubbling up. I don't car eabout taking big shots now because I came here to play. Iw anted to gewt as far as I could without making crazy decisions but Rachels' laser focused on m so let me be laser focused on her

Mickey: she wants to go home. Top 3 or go home. There's no way I'm letting her make it to top 3

Morgan: ??

Vince; That makes me feel bad because I migth have said something about her being ?? words of wisdom

Morgan: she's gonna be incredible for jury but she doesn't want to be in jury, and I thnk fi she is there she's gonn abe bitter as fuck because she was a winner. Going down to jury?

Mickey: that was a risk coming in here. You come into the game 15 years later where everyone is half your age. If she goes to jury she better be happy baout it. Just like she tried to sway the house with Jimmy, she didn't sway anybody but Ashley. If we have to send her there, tha'ts fine. We can't choose both, we have to get one or th eother out. Main focuse isn't jury but what I'm saying if we take out one we can' take out hte other because there's othe rbig targets we have ot take out as well

Morgan: I think ashley lies about ?? with Zach. They're always like ??

Mickey: she told me that she knows he wants her out but he tells her everything that's why she's still cool with him. He tells her everything baout you (Morgan)

Morgan: that psises me off. ?? sweet girl, but piss me off enough and ??

Here' the non negotiables for me. If I pick a number one, and we're being transparent. Morgan and I are close. Everything you've told me has not come out. Everything will get back to you. If he's tellin gher things that's not good. I don't wnat to campaign against him I just don't like that. I agree I nee dto love you (Mickey) more and let you know it. But I'm telling you the way I connet with her (Morgan) and the way she connects with you, I would nev er ?? I win HOH adn I say what now, what do we do because I Don't bive a fuck. You know what point I got in my game/ I wanted to be as safe as I could and then turn on the game. But now Rachel is laser focused so I might as well have a legendary feud with one of the ??

Morgan: all I know is next episode i"m getting yelled at. I know people like Rachel I know how to play that. What she just did, okay then

Vince: I think my istrust with Rachel also started week one. She brought Amy into the room. She said if Amy goes home you will have the worst ?? ever. Iw as like Rachel were you selling it? cause I Didn' tknow how close she and Amy were, and she laughed and said what do you mean? I was like did I hallucinate? what do you mean what do I mean?

Morgan: taht's so weird

Vince; and you'll see in the episode

Morgan goes to try to split up Zach and Ashley again

Vince: I don't ever want to campaign against Zach either

Mickey: You and I connected before Zach ?? but I wanted to ?? I didn't want to make a decision ebcause Morgan wanted me to stick to it and it bites me in the ass. THen the whiole watches me ?/ ad ecision that people ??

I admit I need to be better in my communication. MOrgan you know ?? it's ag reat give take. I could've set a better tone but at the en dof the day, that's number one, your number one. I want to make sure you know that.You want to make big moves I also didn't know your game play early on. Did she want to hang out. IS she gonna cook her way to the top. I promise I"m just kidding

Mickey laughs

?? that's why I was like I think it could be you and morgan going on the block. It's not a matter of I'm close with her if ?? go then ?? closer. If ?? trust with your life I trust her with my lif, then why can't we trust each other. ... if you have someone you trust 100% you have to ?? they have someone they trust 100%. If there's anybody I felt ?? good with Mickey. if there comes a chance to make big shots, I want to be more memorable than ?? people thought i played a better social game than I thought I Did. It's the weirdest phenomenon

MIckey: i would've never guessed it would've been you three up there. I know Keanu loves you. I pray this stays between us, but yesterady I told Morgan, Iw as very sure about it. I said I wanted to send Zach home. I know it doesn't sound very ?? but when it came down to what was best for our game, and ?? Ashley ?? it didn't make me trust him as much as I thought I should've. Also Keanu loves you. It hought why not just continue on that route, even though Keanu runs his mouth so much. I thought he'd always be a target and win vetoes if we nee dhim to. Zach hasn't won anything ?? I told her this is not ?? but ?? every single scenario with you gone, Zach gone, Keanu gone. I wouldn't be a proper BB player if I didn't. Then i told her my concerns about our dynamic. I was like you know me well enough I'm gonna talk to you. I voice my opinion very strong. I just wanna feel comfrotable with peoiple. If I'm fighting and doing things for poeple. I was telling her Zach hadn't comem talk to me, nord did you but you said youw anted to atlk today ?? I am someone that has numbers. I love Morgan, and Morgan's social game is amaizng, but ?? also have peopel ?? allegiance ?? sit back and see what happens but then I was like ?? so we sit down and have htis converastion

I get a lot of fluff and naivety and everything Keanu says to me I'm thinking in my head, wrong. SAo I appreciate that he trust sme but I need to be with people who understand the game. Have sway. Can make deicisons for thesmelves. ANd have the level head to make the right deicsion at the right time. One day I was like verybody you'v ehad beef with you'r ebest friends with now, so what are you gonna do? He's like I don't know I'll figure it out. Well figure it out now

Don't get me wrong. THere is an option to send Keanu home, I'm okay with that. I want ?? to be our thing. When I ttalk to Morgan ?? I hear a lot of stuff from Ashley that comes from that person. Id on't tknow what that' sabout, tbut that's weird

the AShley zach relationshpi does seem stronger than i thought. Iw as 95% sure you had the power, btu that's because Zach told me that Ashley told him taht you were helping her after the waiter and why would somebody help somebody else unless ?? because Keanu did the same thing

?? I did ??

I was like if MIckey ahs the power, I'm okay with it. So when I went to RYlie I was like probabyl Ashley right? I felt good with Rylie, I felt good with you, however it played out. But I also immediately regretted that because that could've been a good building block. With transparence, I'm not syaing shit, and you could've been liek I Don't have it, but thank you. THen ?? use ?? then ?? would've said "nice"

Mrogan returns

Morgan: He's still there bro

how long have htey been talking

longer than we've bene talking. I also need advice from you on how to talk to him >I'm not gonna lie to you ?? Ashley ?? anythin gto ?? He hsn'tsaid shit to me about it and he lies to my face. I need him to know that's not fucking cool and I don't know if he'd ?? but he needs to ?? accountability

Mickey: I agree

It doesn't sit right with me

He also has ?? we don't have right now, and that is to be in Rachel's good graces

Vince: ?? even though you sent Jimmy home?

I thin Rachek likes me but she doesn't talk game with me. Because me and WIll are close I thinks eh like sme more. I think that help sme

Morgan: ?? especially after today. ?? talked to her in the gym, she's like ?? get on the bike. I'm like please, just please. SHe's like I ohpe earlier you didn't think. She' slike it's just really disrespectful you of all people would say that. I said what am I supposed to do? Ashley I'm taking her to final three? You've done this before

Vince; At the very least ?? IT wasn't saying Julie says congratulations ?? jury and then ?? Rachel ?? Fuck you

Morgan: And then she storms out. I feel better when peopleare like I heard you said something about me. It was giving liek a TV moment

Mrogan: She needs those

Mrogan: That also makes me fele some type of way. You look at me as an ally since week one and you awnt to do that to me? I'm liek jury is acheckpoint. She's like ?? talk Dr. Will or Tylaor. I'm like right, ?? genuinely

Vince: It's a huge accomplishment. We made it here. I enver would've connected those odds that that was her ?? Final three or nothing

Mickey: It literally shook me. I do think jimmy leaving has her feeling some type of wining. She feel svery confident without her winning anytihngn

Morgan: I think JImmy told her everything she needs to know. I think she know sbaout our ?? Why else would she say ?? you talk with Mickey?

Mickey: And she' sbesties with Ashley out of all people that's the worst person to be connected to. Ashley talks a lot and what she knows is not 100% true. I don't know what that is

Mrogan: I knwo you're saying both of them for numbers

Mickey; One or the other. I can't lose both for my game. Ashley is a liar. BUt ?? jury that's all she wants

Morgan: She'l lbe able to look back

MICkey: She understands the game, she just talks too much

Morgan: I'm leaning toward Ashley. She's like at least I'll maek it to jury. I know I won't make it that far

They laugh

Mickey: that's all she ants. She'll be happy. ?? Figur eit out. It's better her with someone we've had some communication with than someone we tried to build iomsething with today

Morgan: I told Rachel ?? She came to me adn talked game ?? When she tstarts ?? She thought you were running Lauren's HOH. She doesn't

Vince; that's where the perception got fucked

MIckey: She's been thinking that ofr a while. Even when ?? the Hevay Hitter thing, she awnted you out. Which was interesting

Morgan: I think Jimmy picked people that were huge shields, and he was doing it to protect Mickey and get information from all of us and have all ?? covered. Rylie, Vince, me, Rachel, Zach

Mickey: It makes my stomach hurt saying that out loud. I did send him home

Mrogan; I'm also saying the way he was playing was messy

Vince: We also don't know if that's true so don't feel bad

Morgan: It made sense fo rmy game too because we wouldn't have been ?? Youa lready know baout triple threat so it's not a surprise

Vince: Jimmy as messy and I feel like I'm on the block for the same reason, but I don't think I played the same way

Mickey: I think you're on the block for perception

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Lauren talks with Zach in the lounge

Lauren says Katherine hasn't made a complete decision. She's leaning toward not using it but she's not closed. She's basically like she's waiting fo rpeople to have converastions. In his conversation he should reassure her that he's not

going after her

Lauren says yeah. ... but don't mkae it sound like she told him to say that

Zach says here's what just happened. He doesn't think he can target Ashley anymore. He just had a converastion with her, and she said somebody outed that he said he would put her on th eblock

Lauren asks who said

Zach says she didn't tell him. He said he heard JImmy was one of the people that told htat to her. He needs ot have a conversation with Kelley by the way. Week 1 she threw out he won $10k. Last week he didn't know where here head was at for the Jimmy situation. So he told her he didn't know where her head was at and she planted seeds. Long story short, and she's gonna have a converastion wtih Lauren about this. THey hashed out tpeople they would want to work wiht. She's 50/50 on him against Vince, and 50/50 on him vs. Keanu. He said what could he have said ?? he was one of her favorite poeple in the house. It's because she heard that he said he wanted her out. She wants Kat out bad. He was telling her that she has a group of poeple she wants out before jury

Lauren asks if she's one

Zach says no, but there's a question mark for her because of her relationship with Kat. So there's gonn abe a conversation. And she's gonn ask about ?? relationship with Will. She said he said one of his goals this week was to ?? Will. He and her are both close with WIll. He's trying to think. What she wants is him, her, Morgan, Rachel, Vince, Mickey, Will, The eighth was Ava he htinks. But with a group of 8, then you ahve people liek Kat and Rylie out of the group. That's where she's a quetsion mark with ALuren, so he's letting her know that's probably soemthing she will say, and ask how she fels about all the people he just mentioned. she's also afraid that Lauren's not the person that would want to take a shot at one of those people, and she's cautious about that as well

Lauren says three people htat aren't in the eight. Kat, Keanu

she's tryingto have a group that can mkae it to jury. THey have thre eor Kelley, Keanu, Kat. ?? could potentiall ybe in that. AShley asked who his four would be. He said Ava, she said that's fair. Because of Lauren's associationw tih Kat, that's why she was like where's Lauren at. He told her Lauren's her own person. HE has conversations with her but she has a mind of her own and he doesn't know the answer to htat. Ashley's going to probably get a feel where Lauren's head is at around that

Lauren says yeah. She can't say no to anythin gbut she oculd never take a shot at Rylie or Kat

AZach asyas he knows. He's tryingto repair his relationship with Ashley after something like that happens. She said last week he would've absolutely had her vote, but now she's 50/50 with him and Keanu

Lauren says she doesn't understand the arugment of keeping Keanu this week ove ranyone

Zach says she was also liek she doesn't know what to do between him and Vince, and he was lik that was fair. They just had a two hour conversation.

Lauren says ??

Zach says Ashley said they're gonna tlak more. He still doesn't have her vote 100%

Lauren says why the fuck would she ?? Keanu

Zach says he doesn't know. He's told her stuff too. ... her number one target is Kat. He's not saying agree with her and say she's gonna take out Kat, just that that's probably what Ashley's gonna ask her

Lauren says it's getting to the point where it's like I don't know

Zach says him, her, Morgan, Vinny, and had Kat and Rylie, he's cool with that too. HE doesn't want to flip flop but he wants to make it out alive with Vince and figure out who to go with and he doens't know the answer to htat. He appreciates her tellin ghim what to say with KAtherine. The hting is if Katherine does use it, she will be a bigger target for other people

Lauren says she doesn't think Aktherine was gonna use it anyway, but she'd still have a conversation with her ?? votes

Zach says just ask her where her head's at

Lauren says yeah

Zach asks if anybody's talked game with her

Lauren says she's talked to Ava, but she doesn't know

Zach says okay. Katherine did tell him she iddn't trust him 100%, but at the time they had that conversation she had other tarets. He doesn't know what she's trying to do, but

Lauren says she doesn't know either ot be honest

Zach asks whta he's thinking

Lauren says she's thinking she's scared of Rachel

Zach says he needs to have another 1 on 1 with her tonight. TO have a relationship with her just to keep her at arm's length

Lauren rolsl her eyes and says yeah. She feels like there's a new group every day, and if ?? then it's drawing a line, and she feels like at this point she's with a bunch of people and she doesn't know what to do

Zach says him too, but he and Vince are on the block right now and poeple are lik ei don't knokw between the two o you. THe fact it's gotten to the point Keanu may stay is absurd to him. He understands Keanu is playing this game, but what he's done up to this poin tis sloppy and inexcusable. IF you're going to keep somebody who is that sloppy over somebody playing even keeled, keeping the house normal, but he also understands if he's perceived as the bigger target, he understands

Lauren says but also Keanu has won three vetoes, so what are they doing? SHe doesn't know

Zach says Ashley's also gonna ask who she'd vote out between him adn Vince

Lauren asks if AShley todl him who she's voting

Zach says no, she said 50/50, that's why he was here with her for 2 hours rehashing everything. He understands Lauren has to play her own game

Lauren says she's gonna do what's best. SH reelal yhopes he and Vinny stay this week. she doesn't know

Zach says yeah, he just wanted her to know how that conversation went

Lauren says thanks for telling her, now she's scared to go talk to her

Zach says he's gonna leave because Ashley sees them together

Zach says he's gonna go find Kat

Lauren goes to leave

Ashley pops out of the bathroom and says that's perfect timing

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Mickey: ...weird stuff to get to the top and I don't feel comfrotable with that.

It's one thing for her to ?? to you, but with me. I ?? weird about that

Vince; Rahcel and Ashley are two people I Don't have relationships with. Ava just put me on the block. But I don't care, I'll do what you want. Do you want me to put Katherine up? I'll just talke to Rylie. HEre's the thing. You have proven through actions taht you have wanted to work with me ?? opportunity to prove myself too. You put Jimmy up. I went to bed at night like is she really gonna put Jimmy up? No way she does it. AFter nosm my heart was pounding and you did it. My genuine reactions I Was like fuck yeah. That was fucking amazing

Mrogan: Ava wouldn't go home

Vince; thos are the only three names that make the most sense for me. BUt i you want me to ?? something else. Tell me

MIckey: We can talk about it ?? two people ??

okay, so I'll leave one off

Morgan: ?? renom ?? think about putting up

Even a renom, a renom could win adn it goes down to Ashley and Ava. Rachel ??

Morgan: ?? Kelley

Vince; Oh I could do that

They get ready to leave and high five

Vince: It's hard for me to strategize in this because I catch myself in the mirror

Morgan: ??

Vince; You'rve done a good job

Mickey: It's his arms because he talks with his hands

They lugh

Vince; Okay. But thank you fo rbeing ccompletely transparent with me. That means a lot. ?? feel comfrotable with any kinds of concerns that you've thought you had. And I want to do whatever it takes to showcase my loyalty to both of you. I don't want you to thin it' sonly Morgan. Iw ant to showacase tto both of you

Mickey: I agree ??

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Mickey: I'm saying dependingon on how your convo goes wiht Zach, does that determine how we go with Zach and Keanu

Zach thinks I trust him 100% and he trusts me 100%, that's fine, I can let him think that

Mickey: I'm saying will how your conversation goes determine whether we keep Zach or Keanu

I'm fine with keeping either. ?? Zach better because we've already been

Vince: I would like to keep Zach if we are able to

Morgan: Keanu is back and forth

Vince: You want to talk about wishy washy. Any given day he's like I trust this person 100%, then they need to fucking go ?? 24 hours. That's the thing iwth Keanu, he's very up and down

Morgan: He told us how she temperature checked him. Iw as like waht does that even mean

Mickey: ?? more comfortable with someone ??

Mrogan: Keanu temperature checking ?? vs Zach who'll sit and have conversations, that's better to work with than Keanu

Mickey: I respect your opionoin. Based on my conversation with Zach will determine where my vote goes

Morgan: I'm fine either way. I don't want to say yes then change my mind

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Mickey and Will talk outside

Mickey asks if Vinny stays would Will be comfrotable doing a four thing with Morgan and Vinny

Will says yes

Mickey says Vinny and Rachel ?? back and forth. Vinny's a superfan, he wants to do something big. ?? He wants to do Rylie

Will asks if she doesn't to do that

Mickey says not right now but yeah because Rylie would beat them

Will says yes

Mickey says you know how peole ask who's your person, he's her person when it comes to that

Will says he's down with that. Come up with an amazing name

Mickey says they can start talking about it and pitch it to Morgan and see wher eit goes

Will says he's down for that

Mcieky says she wanted to keep Keanu but he scares hr too much

Will says yeah she's the one that brought it up

Mickey says yeah she wanted to give him a chance because he got ostracized the whole time

They get sidetracked with Vince

Mickey says she talked to him. She respects him. She thinks Vince was playing so hard becaues he wante dto be here so bad. After this week he's willing to do whatever it takes. And Zach is willing to do whatever it takes for one person while Vince is willing to do whatever it takes for them

Will says he sees that completely. That'll help them get to the next level. he's all for it

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Will says she's gonna put ?? up? (something about Rachel)

Mickey says doesn't know if she's (Rachel's) gonna target, but it sounds liek she said she was gonna get to three by any means snecessary. She knows he might not want to hear this, but it's already gotten aroudn the house, so she wouldn't be surprised if Rachel went before. Just being honest ... Vinny has Morgan's ear so ?? can make sure she doesn't pu Will up

Will: This game reveals alot

Mickey: I know. It's making my head hurt

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Vince talks with Lauren in the Have Not room

Lauren asks if he's talked to Katherine today

Vince says kind of briefly introduction conversation. He asks for any angle she can think of

she had the conersation with Ava about who the fourth nominee would be. Lauren thinks If Katherine knew who that person was and where they stood it might be a conversation. She's thinking the renom is either ashley or Morgan

not Kelley for sure

She doesn't know. Maybe it is

Vince says Ashley is best case. But she doesn't know if she'd do that because she'c close with Rachle, and Rahcl wouldn't want that to happen. So is Will

Lauren says peole are telling her all types of things. If she odesn't know ??

Vince says he doesn't want Morgan going up but he wants to make sur ehe's safe too. he doens't know what to do. He doesn't want to campaign hard and ask Katherine to use it and the morgan goes on the block

Lauren laughs at the costume

Lauren says ?? conversation

Vince says it was in he kitchen. It was kind of brief. HJe doesn't know what to say. This isn't gonna help hsi situation with her wanting to laugh

Vince crouches down

Vince says he wants her (Katherine) to ?? in the best position possible with everybody. He doesn't wnat to pin it like don't trust htem trust him. He wants to ?? it like he can take shots she won't

Lauren laughs and says eshe's listening

Vince says he would take the shots she might not want to. He doesn't know what to offer to her game. IF he's on the block he odesn't believ ehe has numbers unless a few peopel are able to be swayed

Lauren says it's frustrating her

Lauren spins around in her chair

Lauren says Keanu needs to go

Vine says he's afraid he wins Blockbuster. He could try to get Keanu to throw blockbuster because he's so comfortable. Would that be crazy or genius? He can tell him he's guaranteed to have the votes no matter what and the only wa to ?? the game is if Vince wins. But if he's on the block against Zach he goes hom eunanimously. Is that ?? but the game ?? they have to do ?? to protec tthemselves

Lauren laughs

Vince says he doesn't know if he would do it. Can you imagine? He feels really comfortable

Lauren says she knows. If it's them three on the block, even against Keanu, she doesn't think it's as...

Vince says people are afraid to go against Rachel and she wants him out. He has better odds against Keanu than Zach. And he can't compete agianst Zach, he can just ?? about himself. Against Keanu he has her, Zach, Morgan, Kelley for sure, probably Rylie, Katherine, and maybe Mickey? Against Zach he doesn't know where Rylie Katherine go. He wants to believe they would stay

Lauren says she thinks against Zach ?? stay

Vince says ?? Lauren adn Zcach they're always gonna be paired together

Lauren says and she ?? she had a conversation with Ashley. She's like what would you do if it's them two. She was like she odesn't know. Ashley was like she feels the same way

Vince says he wouldn't ?? on AShley vote no matter what scenario

LAuren says Katherin just needs to know he's good for her game

Vince asks how to prove that. What can he say to make her believe that?

Lauren says he can promise her safety

Vince says he literally told her. He just doesn't know about numbres. IF she saved him he would owe her a massive debt

Lauren says this is so sticky for her

Vince ays she knows. Morgan ?? only person who understands the positions he's in too

Lauren says she's relayl close with Kat also, so everybody's telling her all these things. She's trying to help everybody out but everybody's against each other. So she's like... It's just important that he expresses what could he offer ?? Zach ??

Vince says that's his pitch with her. It's best if both of them stay. Adn th eonly way they guarantee that is if Katherine uses the vetoon him. Zach goes to ?? and wins pretty eaisly

Lauren says she's had converastions with her. She wants them in this game. She's trying to tell them what to tell her without her knowing

Vince says and how could she ?? get Katherinet to use the veto on him without...

Lauren says Katherine was even thinking about Keanu, please don't tell her she said this, but mayeb Keanu would be ag ood person to stay

Vince says Kean? that's scary

Lauren says he's won three etoes in a row

Vince says and he's hot and cold. He'll turn on somebody like that nad be best friends with somebody like that

Lauren says he'll do anything. So that could be a thing, but at this point you can't play defense anymore. You can't keep people around

Vince says we're too far at this point

Lauren asys she didn't want to tell her that ?? Keanu ?? your chances of winning any competition ... not set, but just something that she said ?? show Katherine that you're good for her game. Now she's scared that he's feeding lines ?? Lauren shouldn't be ?? because she's not on the block but wants them both to stay so bad

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Zach and Katherine continue talking

Katherine says if Keanu is gone and Vince is still here, she doesn't know how much she could trust Zach there

Zach asks if she would feel a bit weird if it was him, Vince, Will, Lauren, Rylie. Would that raise a red flag for her? If they were all trying to work together

Katherine says slightly. She's thought about that combinatino of people, Vince included. THey can talk about this more after votes and see how it is, but it's like, she still doesn't know where his head is at beyond that. IT freaks her out a little bit. IT's not paranoia, she's not paranoid about it. It's not productive. With everything being speculation, she doesn't know if they're in alignment with each other for future goals of who's here

Zach says sure

Katherine says it's all based on speculationa dn rumor mill based stuff as well, which she doesn't want to put too much eart into because people talk out of their ass in here all the time, but at the same time it has tso be a thought in her head. She's not spoken to him and hasn't been a consideriation in his head and it's not as reassuring if it's because of Lauren and Rylie

Zach says sit's not reassuring

Katherine says no

Zach says he's got her. That's fair. He sees where she's coming from. To be honest, it threw him a little bit off with how ?? he's not blaming her at all. it's the way it was approached. THey sat down and she was listing reasons to keep Adrian. They may have talked one time before. They sat and hashed out the reasons. the following day there's no reason to trust each other because they didn't see eye to eye on that. It's weird because he understands this agme is ??

Katherine says she didn't see that as a break of trust but part of the reason she kept her vote the same despite knowing 99% she was gonna be on the minority side of it, part of it was because of JImmy and now he's gone so she can say it. Jimmy said one sentence to her and she'd already been a dlittle doubtful about her relationship with him and that completely flipped the switch with her, and it was a blunt sentence of this is what's happening, and she was like sh'e fucking done. In this game you have to let go of your pride sometimes. But saying this is what's happening you're gonna be on the outside if you don't switch your vote. She's not gonna do that. She already gave her word.Saying break your word and come here and be a follower because I told you, and it's been confirmed that Jimmy was saying her and Lauren were in his back pocket. She could tell that was the case before that vote happened, she wasn't about to prove it was true. If he seems like sh'e easily controlle dthat's not a benefit to her either. With that vote, she odesn't think she looked very happy about it. She awsn't happy to see Adrian go, sh eouwldn't have been happy to see Will go, it was more the circumstances. Drawing the lines drew it further for her. She wants to come back from that but it's kind of hard to see how when she feels lik eit's in her face like that
 

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Laurne and Vince continue

Lauren: If you use the veto on me, that would be great, and here's how i'd be good for your game. Also trying to get a vote as well if you can't get a veto out of it. Which I think that she would vote to keep you regardless but... I just don't know

Vince: ??

Lauren: Why why, I thought this week was gonna be great

Vince: When shoudl I talk to Katehrine, should I wait a little bit?

Lauren: She's talking to Zach right now ?? go talk to her

Vince: I ?? for a little bit

Lauren: I hope she's not mad at me. I don't want to cause any distrust with her

Vince: of course not

Lauren: and Rylie

Vince: Katherine and I already had plasn to talk to today

Lauren: She did appreciate taht you had a covnerastion with her

Vince; Did she say that?

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Morgan talks with Rylie outside

Morgan says this isn't her saying she doesn' trust him, she does trust him. SHe knows ?? will do whatever it takes to win this game,a nd she's trying to have the same tenacity. She knows she's not the biggest fan of the peopl eon the block, and Morgan is

Rylie: why yall have a ??

Morgan: whenI first came in the house I was like wow we have a BB winner I really wanna work with her but I'm not gonna go up to her, because I was the type I wanted people to come to me. I'm pretty sure you're the only person I went up to because you remind me of my brother. I remember Imentioned I think she would be great in jury because she's ?? this game, she's done all this stuff. She'd beg reat to be in ther eall that. THat wasn't me saying she doesn't deserve to win. TO me it's like a race, Nascar race. When you get a checkpoint, you don't have to worry about going home. When you get evicted before jury, you go home. YOu don't get to decide. I guess she heard that I said that and I didn' teven mean it in a negative way. I even told her to her face I would love her to go as fara s I can take her. I'm only one person. I don't know if anyone else felt the same way I'm only one person. Then it got to her, and it ?? like she meant get her to jury and then ?? I didn't even mean it that way. Ther'es some people you want in jury there's some people you don't want. LIke I want you in jury ?? doesn't mean I want you to ?? I want you in jury becaue I want to tfind out. I'm a reall ynice person. So when I say thing si Really mean it. There was no ill will behind that. IT was like sge'll be able to mediate ?? I din't know what to do, and I dont' do well in confrontation

Rylie: She's had ?? with everyone ?? Now her and Zach> Before ?? she was trying to throw his ass out the gaem

Morgan: It's hard because one decision changes the entire trajectory now you'r elike okay, now what

Rylie: Yeah now what. Shit's weird

Morgan: No I thinks o too

Rylie; this whole fucking game i weird

Morgan: No I know

Rylie: and my life is nothing liek this on the outside. I surround myself with some real ass motherfuckers

Keanu comes over with some pigs in a blanket

Keanu leaves

Rylie says that type of shit right htere. Vinny in the egg suit. Makes this type of shit right here

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Zach, Morgan, and Ashley talk in the lounge

Morgan talks about information she told Ashley getting out

Ashley says the house perception is that Zach and Lauren would put each other first. Like it's a thing

Morgan says like a (budding/growing) thing

Zach gets called to the DR

Ashley swears that she never told Zach what they talked about

Morgan says she knew Rachel was trying to put Zach and Lauren together, but when (Morgan) talked to both of them they said it wasn't a thing. But then week two it started up again she guesses. Whenever she asked Zach who he'd choose between her and Lauren he always said her. She didn't tell him that Ashley told her that he said he would choose Lauren

Ashley says he never said that explicitly, it was implied

Morgan says she felt it

Ashley says yeah, perception wise, he's a ride or die. For Lauren. That's perception and it also was implied in conversations, not just with her

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Ashley says normally she's not someone who's like blah blah blah. This week she's trying to re-evaluate her game

Morgan asks if she feels people don't want to work with her because she's tied with Rachel. She (Morgan) fucks with Rachel but does she think people don't want to work with her because she's ?? Rachel

Ashley says she is but she came to play a game. ... She'd love to keep her as long as they can but everybody could be gone at some point. She doesn't want people to think they're so tight that they won't pull her into something

Morgan says Amy connected Rachel and Ashley, and automatically put her with that. So now if people don't want to work with Rachel, then implicitly they don't trust her

Ashley asks how to fix that problem

Morgan says Ashley got slurped with Rachel and Jimmy too, and everyone thinks she was the second vote

Ashley shakes her head, and says if she voted to evict her best friend, why would she vote to someone she wasn't even close with. ... It only happened like that because he and Rachel hung out, and then

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Morgan says she and Mickey went to work during Lauren's HOH to make sure Ashley didn't go on the block. Morgan says she didn't want to do it in a way that would force Lauren's hand
 

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Mickey talks to Will outside

Mickey says ...the reason she (Morgan) was telling Mickey she wants to keep Vince and Zach in the house is because they're the only two in this house she really can relate to. Mickey was like when they first got in the house she was trying to connect with her but it seemed like she was more comfortable with "that" side, and she only came to this side for numbers. Now she sees that side is about to diminish, she can't come to Mickey with a sob story and expect her to be like oh it's okay. At this point they always say by week 5 you should know who you're rocking with and that's it. That's what she read on Reddit

Will says and it's true

They laugh

Will says in that case, Amy should've stayed. She's older

Mickey says it makes her mad because she doesn't know what she's doing. Mickey told Will she likes her and wants her to go far but people already see, she doesn't know what she's doing

Will says she's playing this game so hard. Too early. First thing you wake up, so that means when she was going to bed, all game, gotta get Ashley meeting as soon as possible

Mickey says somebody said something about her and Morgan was like she wishes she knew certain things about her. Mickey was like they never talk personal. They always talk game. Any time Morgan wants to talk to her it's game

Will says he doesn't think you can win playing that way. You still have to build those natural social relationships with people. If you don't have that why is he gonna rock with you. At the end of the day you have to spend so much time with you, and you can't spend all that time talking game. Then he thinks are you trying to get to know him to use it against him in a game aspect

Mickey says or sway her compassion now that what you thought was gonna happen doesn't happen.

Will says right

Mickey says she agrees. Morgan was like Vince and Zach are the ones she relates with the most. If they leave that's gonna mess up her game Mickey has Will, Ashley, Ava, she doesn't have anybody

Will says she needs to try harder. One of them can go home, that's the game. So she's making it ?? she's trying to get Ashley to vote Keanu out

Mickey says probably. She wants them both to stay. She's going back and forth everyday. Last night when she went to bed she doesn't mind Keanu going home because he's so messy. But then Rachel's like they can't have both stay, that benefits her game, she gets that. But if they stay, they're not coming for Mickey and Will

Will says they're not

Mickey says she doesn't know

Will says in that aspect it is good that they have a couple days to think about it. To almost fall in their lap to make it easy . Like they were talking about her, him, Morgan, ?? Vinny. There's some kind of deals. Keanu is easy to go up next week again

Mickey says she thought about that too

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Zach talks with Rylie in the Have Not room

Zach asks if he has Rylie's vote against Ke(anu)

Rylie says he does, and that he wants him here if he's against Vince also

Zach says he's been getting the impression that because of his relationship with Lauren people might want him to go home

Rylie says that's bullshit. People making excuses for something

Zach says he's heard that from a few people. He hasn't told anybody

Rylie says he wants him here. He wants both of them here. They're his closest friends in this house

Zach says let's say he's miraculously say, that she could be up depending on who's HOH. So worst case what he's scared about is people could see that then Lauren and Zach are going on the block next

Rylie says he knows that feeling

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Ashley and Morgan continue talking in the lounge

Morgan says she hopes Rachel knows that she wouldn't come for her, and she hopes Rachel wouldn't come for her

They talk about Jimmy

Ashley says she gave Rachel her reasons for voting out Jimmy
 

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9:45 AM BBT: Feeds cut for the veto meeting

1::29 PM BBT: Feeds returned

Katherine decided not to use the Power of Veto

It seems like Zach did not use his power
 
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