Cirie says obviously it's not good for Reilly because everybody's afraid of certain people. She thinks right now no matter what you wanna do you're so scared of the person that it's dangerous. He (Hisam) says it's gonna be unanimous and she's like where does he see that?
Jag asks who she'd rather keep, and obviously what they say stays here
Cirie says please, she's trusting him. Obviously she would love to keep Reilly because Cameron's already shown he can't be trusted, but she doesn't know if they have the numbers because Hisam...
Jag says it could be a split vote
Cirie says then he makes the decision
Jag says it could be a blindside this week, and they would need her vote to keep Reilly
Cirie asks if just her
Jag says they could try to do more, but she knows her people
Cirie says Felicia is scared of Hisam. She's already like whatever Hisam wants.
Jag says he thinks Reilly and Cam have both shown their cards and one obviously was going against Hisam and the other was not as trustworthy. Not loyal. When he thinks about who he'd want to work with
Cirie says she doesn't trust Cameron at all
Jag says he's assuming folks she's close to will vote to keep Cam
Cirie says that's what Hisam's telling them
Jag says they'll have Izzy, Felicia, Red, Bowie...
Reilly walks in
Jag says Meme
Jag says everybody else would be him, Blue, Matt, America
Cirie asks if he's sure about America
Jag says if they try to pull it off
Cirie says okay
Jag says America, Cory, Jared. That's six. Now it's 5-6. He thinks Cirie would make it a tie or...
America walks in
Jag says one thing he's wondering also is Bowie Jane just came back and she's gonna have something. His theory is either she's gonna hvae something good to give to someone, how he was given safety, or he personally thinks this week he got to save somebody designated to play veto. He thinks she or maybe the person she takes is somebody doesn't get to vote. And he thinks that's what it is. She just got something bad, she has to get something good out of it. He got something good, he had to get something bad out of it, to get blood on his hands. To say you don't get to play in veto.
Cirie says she got something bad though
Jag says he's not sure if she's gonna be the one to decide or whoever she picks decides or...
...
Jag says let's say she cancels his vote. If Cirie votes on their side it would be a blindside. how comfortable would she be doing that?
Cirie says she'd just be scared that everybody that they think are voting their way all vote their way, Hisam's gonna be out for blood for whoever doesn't vote the way he tells them to
Jag says he's thinking, let's say everybody doesn't vote the way he thought
Cirie says he's already thinking it's going to be a unanimous vote, and she's like what?
Jag says Hisam would never doubt her> Let's say America or Cory or whoever. Let's say they flip
Cirie says the problem is Reilly's telling people that she has her vote
Reilly says she's telling Jag. She's not saying it to everybody
Cirie says she's heard already like you promised Reilly. So if she was to do that it would have to be totally incognito. You could not say Cirie. Don't say you got Cirie. Matter fact say today "oh no, I don't have Ms. Cirie and Ms. Felicia". Leave it that way
Reilly says okay
Cirie says they don't have to know the way she's voting, and that's the only way she feels comfortable doing it
Jag says even if something goes wrong, it's split down the middle, and someone from the seven they're trying to pull off votes the other way, they would be stupid to say yeah I (??) to Cameron, because Cirie's gonna say no she did, are you gonna believe Cory over me?
Cirie says that's what she was telling her, but everybody can't be like "Oh Cirie's voting Reilly" No. Like they said no, they're not gonna vote. Yes, but she would feel fine because it's incognito
Jag says they can't trust everybody.
Cirie says exactly
Jag says it's possible they can do that and then it would be a 7-5 vote. Even if Bowie Jane cancels his vote, it would be a 6-5 vote. Either way the key part to pulling thi soff is her vote
Cirie says okay
Jag says they know it could never get tied. It could not be a tie with 12 votes, it needs to be 7-5. THere's one canceled vote, which is gonna come from their side, it's gonna be 6-5. So either way they can pull it off.
Cirie says she's willing to do it without them knowing that it's her, but they can't say that. She's trusting her and Jag
Reilly says her lips are sealed
Cirie says to not say that they even had this conversation
Jag says it never happened
Cirie says she doesn't want them to tell anybody outside of this room. Not even Blue. Don't tell anybody. That's the only way this is gonna work for her. Because if it gets back to Hisam, she's done
Jag says to Reilly after this say that you don't know, say that she's scared. Say that she's gonna talk to Hisam, and her only chance is if it's a split she's gonna plead to him, and be like "please I'll do anything".
Cirie says exactly
Jag says she'll cut deals with the devil, do whatever she needs. Keep it at that because it's true. This is them continuing to work together throughout the season
Reilly tells Cirie she has her back and she will protect her no matter what
Cirie says she knows that but she can't let them know that because she's working with them so it would be terrible for her if even the thought of her voting against them was out there. So they can't. THis is it right here. THey don't even have to talk again. They can talk like they normally do but she's willing to do this for them, as long as she's safe.
Reilly says she's so safe
Jag says they'll make sure
Cirie says she only trusts this conversation right here. That's the only place she trusts this conversation
Jag says they'll say they don't know, like everyone is scared. Which is true. Hisam has a lot of control. They'll say that. Cirie's game is their game. Her safety is their safety. If word gets out at all, they're all... and they can just throw their own game out the window
Cirie says right
Reilly says no matter what she'll protect her, and she told her that from the beginning. She's gonna try with Felicia
Cirie says rightfully so, but she has to lead it off with "I don't know", but as long as nobody can see where she votes
Jag says wait til... so Hisam said he's keeping everything the same
Cirie says yeah and he thinks it's gonna be unanimous vote.
Jag tells Reilly to keep it that way. Don't start campaigning until post-veto because if he starts feeling paranoid, he may use the veto put someone up on their side just to X out their vote
Cirie says oh no, he's never gonna change it
Reilly says he wants her out so bad
Jag tells Cirie they'll chat today too
Reilly hugs Cirie and tells her she loves her so much and thank you
Cirie leaves
Reilly tells Jag they just have to tell Blue and Matt not to talk about it at all because they've been talking about numbers and sh**, with Jared and whoever. And if Cirie finds out everyone in their alliance knows that she's voting with them
Jag says he thinks what needs to happen is she needs to go back to "I don't know". It has to come from her where she just doesn't know where it is anymore because everyone is scared, and that way everyone will feel that way and they'll see what they can do. ... Their side can't be all over the place. They have to be able to pin i ton someone and that's something they have to think about. Whoever their next target is, she had a good convo with Red or Bowie Jane. He doesn't think anybody would believe Izzy. He doesn't want to go after Felicia. Red or Bowie Jane or MeMe. So MeMe, Red, Bowie Jane are their three options they can pin it on, maybe they don't need to. They sort of going into this "what the f*** happened?" Their side cannot use this as a way for someone to individually capitalize on it where they're like "oh Bowie Jane I really wanna work with you and I know" or "Hisam, I really wanna work with you" when he's in power and be like oh I know where this one vote came from. That f***s up their whole game. So go out there and just be like "I don't know" "At first I felt good" but also there was the veto that was gonna happen, no one knew what was going on so it's sort o flike "Hey I got you" but now it's like "I don't know" and it might be a split vote, and say now your plan is to just chat with Hisam and be like that's the only bet you have, and play into that more. That's option A. B is like... he loves Cirie and wants to make sure she's good, that's why if everybody knows... but that's also important to keep everyone in the loop so that no one slips up
Reilly says that's what she's saying. When they see Blue and America and Cory and Jared and Matt they need to tell them to not speak a word about Cirie
Jag says at this point they just have to say they don't know because obviously they trust them and they trust them but he just knows one of them is gonna go to Cirie and be like "yo, we got you", it's gonna
Reilly says Jared is gonna do that
Jag says yup, Jared is close with Cirie. He knows he's gonna be like yeah I already know the word
Reilly says that's why she doesn't want him to...
Jag says yeah, it's in their best interest and Cirie's best interest to sort of keep tight lipped about it and be like "We don't know"
Reilly says she already told Jared that Cirie (??) her. She feels like she's alredy told (??). That's what she's saying
Jag says at this point it's not even like "I was kidding about that", it's like now things have changed because there was this feeling of hope still remaining where she was gonna pull herself off where something could happen. And now that that's out the window it's sort of clear what Hisam wants and folks are scared. The only thing they have to think through, and not right now because he wants to think about it as well. it will be a blindside. He wants to make sure their side isn't blindsided.
Reilly says yeah
Jag says "how is it 7-5" and they'll be looking at them like someone joined their side. Who was it? Was it Cirie? And at some point they're gonna have to say yes, it was Cirie or they have to say no, it was Bowie Jane, or now it was (Red?). They can't lie to them about that. It has to be honest, but what htey have to be is super super super tight lipped about it, and that's something that they have to talk to Cirie about. Because at this point what's gonna end up happening is Cirie's gonna be working with both sides of the house, and he knows it's in her best interest that it's just them working with her but it's gonna f*** up their game a lot if their side is like "well, who was it?" She wants it that way so her name isn't in anyone's mouths but
Reilly says what she's saying is her name is already in their mouths. That's why they need to damage control and try to find a way to...
Jag says what they need to do is come together, the seven of them... He doesn't know. He knows people are already actively playing the game. Like talking to people. He knows Jared is. Jared is chatting with Cirie, chatting with other people, which is fine
Reilly says she told him to wait til after the veto meeting to talk to Felicia. If he follows that...
Jag says how cna they do this where Cirie feels comfortable? He's gonna talk to Cirie. He's gonna be like they need to come up with a plan. He's gonna ask her straight up, if she's gonna vote with them it has to be pinned on someone. Who does she want it to be pinned on? If it's a blindside for them, a blindside for her side, the assumption no matter how much they tell them they don't know if they have Cirie is they think they did end up getting Cirie. Instead of relying on that, they should come up with a plan and play Big Brother and say it was Red, someone, and that way their whole side is has same story and they still keep tight lipped about that, but if one of them slip they still (say Red) That's gonna be a big thing because whoever they pin is gonna be heated, feel some type of way and they're gonna be like "bro, what are you talking about?" It might blow up in that way. That's something they have to be on the same side on. If they're all blindsided on their side, even though they kept her it's gonna be like one person is gonna say it was Red, someone else is gonna say it was Bowie, and someone else is gonna say Izzy
Reilly says she thinks everyone is gonna know it was Cirie because they've been talking about it.
Jag says exactly. He's gonna talk with Cirie and be like let's think through this
Reilly says she should honestly flip over to their side anyway
Jag says no, they need her on that side as much as possible and working with the two of them. Keep her over there and have her as the... Next week, if someone on the other side wins, and it's two of them up, she's again gonna be the flip vote
Reilly says they need to talk to Jared, because she feels like Jared's gonna be up front with her like she's got Reilly
Jag says he thinks she should say she doesn't know, at this point. That's what he would say to Jared. Jared trusts her, and trusts them. Just say she chatted with Cirie briefly, and she (Reilly) doesn't know
Reilly says she just doesn't want Cirie to last minute change her mind
Jag says he thinks she's solid but she needs to feel fully safe doing that, which he agrees. It would be sloppy for them to go do all those steps. This is the moment they're actually starting to play the way they're supposed to play. Which is she's willing to do it and now it's on them to make sure everything is set up so she's safe to do it. No blood on her hands, no blood on theirs. Reilly's safe. They keep playing the game. And throughout this season they're working with her and she keeps blindsiding their side because every time they're gonna be saying who the f*** did it?
Reilly says she feels like they know that she's close to her, and if anyone were to do it it'd be her
Jag says start hanging out with other people more. Don't talk to Cirie again. Straight up. That's what she said. And if people are like what's up with her and Cirie be like "I don't know she won't even look at me". Like "I thought everything was solid but I think everyone's scared and she's..." Make it a thing
Reilly asks even with their people? That's the problem. With Matt, Jared, with Cory, and whoever
Jag says let him chat with Cirie for now. Don't talk with Cirie now. But don't say anything like she won't look at me or anything just be like "I don't know where she's at. I literally need to check in with her again because all this sh** happened and I have no clue. First she said this" and just say "I've been getting weird vibes" That's not something they'd ever be like "what?" That's something that I'd be fine telling that to anyone
Reilly says they're gonna take that and be like I'll go talk to her. Like Matt. They need to tell Matt. That's why she wishes they could all be in here right now.
Jag says he's gonna try to talk to Cirie right after breakfast. If they're gonna pull this let's actually talk through no one knowing and what implications that will have vs people knowing, but actively having her back, and just laying it out like look for her game, if they know but they pin it on someone, they have her
Reilly says they have her back and they will do that. She needs to know that if someone comes up to her and says "are you gonna vote with us?"... she wishes this morning they all were in the room together and were like if you'er gonna talk to anyone especially Cirie just ask her, don't tell her. Ask her. Don't be like "we know you're solid" Be like "would you be willing"
Jag says the main thing they have to hold down who they can say things to. It's so interesting because they want to include everyone so everyone is still on the same team but they can't be telling everyone everything. Right now she explicitly mentioned don't tell Blue or Matt. She knows they're tight with Blue
Reilly says that's why she's saying they need... because Matt already knows
Jag says he'll chat with Cirie and see what's up. Until then don't talk to Cirie. Just hang out
Cirie says (Izzy) does hold both of their lives in this game so they have to make her feel part... the craziest part is she f***s with her anyway. Outside of the secret she really likes her likes her, but it's hard to make her believe that when she holds such a powerful thing over them. But she thinks she knows it. If he wasn't here, she would probably f*** with Izzy, even though Izzy drives her crazy sometimes
Jared say something (can't hear)
Cirie laughs and tells him he needs to stop. He is his mother's child. Everybody can tell when he's annoyed.
...
Cirie says once it happens and it's only three votes, "everybody got scared". That's her story and she's sticking to it
10:42 AM BBT: Reilly talks with Matt in the Scary room
Reilly asks if Jag just talked to him
Matt says yeah, not to talk about anything. They don't want anyone to get the hint because then they'll start realizing they're targeting (Hisam). He's just gonna keep doing what he's doing
Reilly says if he talks to Cirie or Felicia
Matt says don't say anything? He was just thinking about yesterday. Nothing about this
Reilly says because (Cirie) doesn't want... just don't talk about it
10:59 AM BBT: Cameron talks with Cory by the hammock
...
Cameron says he talks with Reilly last night. Jag, and Blue, and America. Jared already knows where he stands. He's just gonna leave Matt with Reilly and let them do their thing. He's not gonna be weird. He's gonna be the exact same person he's always been. He's not gonna do any negative campaign shenanigans.
12:02 PM BBT: Cirie talks with Izzy inside on the balcony
Cirie talks about the conversation she had with Jag and Reilly earlier. And she needs to tell Cory to stop telling people that they think they have her vote. They think they have Cory and Jared too
...
Cirie says the others are really scared of Hisam. That's why they have the Bye Bye Bitches, so they can make their own decisions. She's on board with the Reilly thing, but not with Cameron. Jag was talking about how Reilly did what she did, but at least she was loyal. Jag and Blue would be down to get Cameron. So they have options
Izzy says it's interesting how Hisam is trying to create about a collaborative collective by dictating
Cirie agrees like he's doing the exact same thing.
12:10 PM BBT: Cirie and Izzy go check out the Have Not room, and test out the beds
Izzy gets on the cheese bed.
Cirie gets on the dog bed (same as Jared), and wonders if they should sleep there tonight, if they can sleep in any bed