Ashley, Morgan, and Vince continue talking in the HOH room
Ashley says best case if Lauren wins veto cause then Keanu goes up. Then he guarantees Kelley or Keanu goes home, which is a huge HOH
Morgan says if it is Kelley, Keanu, Lauren, Kelley or Keanu would get sent hom ebefore Lauren. Lauren's coming after her and she has a problem with that but Kelley almost won this HOH, Keanu is aphysical beast
Ashley says her and ?? are controlling tthe vote. Lauren's not going home. If Lauren and Kelley are on the block she's sending Kelley home.
Morgan says she thinks Kelley wants him out, he hasn't done too well at mental comps, but he showed himself today. WHen it was Ashley, Kelley, ?? she was like okay judges
AShley says obviously he has to do what's best for his game but it's very easy to pawn Laurne up front than backdoor her
Morgna says she would feel some type of way. Everyone would quetsion why Ashley's not going up
Ashley says no one thinks she' sone of his intiial noms. But obviously the other half of the house. Keanu ?? everyone sees that them three are close. She doesn't htink it'd be that shocking
he's not taking a shot at Lauren. He's taking a shot at the gorup. Ava could've put them three up, but she put Keanu up. But she aws the renom. She wasn't trying to take a shot at her, she was trying to ?? the group. TO be ?? it was Mickey who made sure Vince went up, and she almost wen tup as the renom
Ashley asks what Vince is thinking
Vince says he feels torn becaues Lauren has never burned him. She's forgiven him every time he's sent one of her allies home. He sent Rylie and Ktherine hom eback to back. And she fcontihnually forgives
Mrogan aswks if he's doing the same with her.
VInce says no
Morgna says Lauren put her on the block
Ashley says he's guarnteeing a big target goes home, and he's also taking out on eof her numbres. She has no choice. She's forced to work with him again
Vince says that's true. Keley or Ava go. She's
Ashley says's she's not gonna go to her, not to Keanu, not to Ashley
Morgan says she' sonly gonna play nice because of Vince
Ashley says he's cutting a number and now Lauren is forced to work with him. Whether she forigves him or not, she's forced to work with him.
Vince says if he puts her up regardless of whetehr she sits next to Ava or Kelley, can they promise they don't evict her and he will split the tie and send Ava or Kelley home
AShley says yes
Morgan asks who she's sititng next to
Morgan shakes her head
AShley says if it's Kelley she gives her word. She wouldn't feel comfrotable saying she gives her word
Morgan says iwth Ava that's a tough one fo rher. AShley knows Ava so much more than they do. He thinks AVa would win this game if he gets there. She has to get there
Ashley says she doesn't see a path. If he takes out Kelley
Morgan says Will leaving was her number one way, ebcause WIll was gonna be a weapon to take people out
Ashley says which is why she was really upset
Morgan says becaues now she has to rely on her physicla capabilities which they've sene has not been the best, and Will threw that comp to her. So the only comp she's won by her choice was the sliding one
AShley says if Will was stil her, she would say Ava could win. If them three were on the block with Will, people would see it as a shot. That gets her another weke. Now Keanu looking at Lauren, that's another week. If Kelley goes home, Ava doesnt have a path. She'd be on Keanu's block, on ?? block. AVa has a really hard path without Will which is why she wanted WIll tos tay because it did make sense for her game
Mrogan says she told him she wanted Will tos tay. Will staying, Kelley awsn't argeting Will, seh wasn't, he wasn't, Ashley wasn't, Keanu wasn't. Lauren was the only one "targeting" will because she put him up on both her HOHs, but she wasn't either. She as using him as a weapon to get (Morgan) or Keanu out
Ashley says probably, most likely
Morgan says definitely
Ashley says if she gets to the end, probably she can win, but she has to get there
Morgan says and at the end it's a physical, then you have to go to a mental. She's gonna have to fight
Ashley says none of them are taking her to three or two if they win
Morgan says she's nto taking hre to four. But even if she made it to four, it's much easier to beat her than anyon eels eon that board
AShley agrees. She sucked a lot in the comps. Loves her to deaht but she hasn't been very strong
Morgan says her social game is the reason she's still here. Evryone loves her
Ashley says she knows her path ?? When she found out Will was ??
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Morgan says if Keanu goes up and asks why Ashley didn't go up
Ashley says he could be like Keanu put him up
Morgan says then he'd get either Keanu on Kelley out on his HOH. If he gets Ava out, she thinks they would be like why Ava and not Kelley or
Ashley says she thinks it shoudl be Kelley
Mrogan says especially since she wants them all on the block
Ashley says and to b honest, Keanu is not the veto king anymore
Morgan says they're sitting next to the back to back champion
Ashley says if they do Lauren, Kelley, Ava. Ava would pick her to play. She would use the veto if he wants
Morgan says he could pick her. SHe would tell (Lauren) she's gonna do what Vince wants her to do. Her's an even better thing. Let's say it's Lauren, Ava, Kelly, let's say she uses it on AVa. Keanu goes up. Lauren stays next to both of them. She woudl never. Vince knows she wants Lauren out of this motherfucking house, but she would never vote out Lauren over Kelley or Keanu
Ashley says never. And honestly out of the three, there's a good chance she gets picked
Morgan says she could see ?? picking her. She doesn't know how she feels baout Kenau. Keanu is not going to use that veto
Vince asks if they're sure of that. He feels like he'd use it on Kelley. That's the thing if he doesn't nominate Lauren, she could use it on Ava. If he doesn't nominate Keanu, she could use it on Kelley
AShley says it could by favor with Keanu
Vince says but if they don't put him up, could he go to the end?
AShley says everybody here would put him up. The ideal scenario is any of them win the veto but Kean or Kelley. Because now you're guaranteeing one of them goes home
Vince says then Keanu is mad at him
Morgan says even if he doesn't use it on Lauren
Ashley says he would have to use it on Lauren. He can't put her up and then not
Morgan says after the veto has been used. No matter who Lauren sits next to she stays
Ashley says worst case is Lauren doesn't go up, and she goes home on his HOH. MOst likely that would be dumb for him. If Keanu wins blockbuster, he's gonna keep Kelley
Morgan says even though he's pissed at her
AShley says she thinks Keanu wants a final two with her
Morgan says he knows he can beat her
Ashley says if Vinc eputs Lauren up, she gets pulled for veto. It would just be wreird for her to use it on Lauren so she can't promise her that but if she uses it on Ava, it would be same difference. If Vinc ewins veto, he could pull down Lauren. If Morgan wins veto, she could pull down Va, because it would be weird to pull down LAuren
Morgan says if he's worried abotu Keanu coming after him, she could piss him off too. SHe told him they'd face him head on
can she run numbers. They know Keanu's noms would be the three they just mentioned. But say one of them go. Now what do you thin his block is?
Morgan says let's say Kelley goes. Keanu doesn't like LAuren. He's going to gravitate toward Vince because he has to
Ashley says they're talking about if he puts Keanu up
Morgan says as a backdoor sure but let's say Kelley leaves. Even in all the times Vince has crossed him, he's been working with him all season even after he crossed him
AShley says she thinks a different angle. When you thin of the numbers, one preson goes home this week. Vinc eor Morgna are on his block. They ahev to bee. If it's still three noms, whether you appease him or not
Morgan say sit'd probably be her
Ashley says but if someone comes down she's gonna put Vince up too, because he wants to send Morgan home
Morgna says they already know this, this isn't new news
AShley says just giving an example. Who else is going up? Probably Morgan anyway. If one of them comes down, she cn aee a world where Keanu puts Vince up to try to send Morgan home. So yes, Vince can try to win favor, but best case scenario is putting them three up and one of Keanu Kelley goes home. HE wants to win this game. THis week he's not coming for Vince, he's coming for the girls, but once one of th egirls goes home, somebody has to go up in their place. She finds it hard to believe a week ago his noms were, she doesn'te ven remember what bullshit Kelley said
Morgan says them three
AShley says she doesn't even remember
Mrogan says Kelley be lying
AShley says that' sher pitch. He has to do what's best for his game. But if he wanted her to use the veto she would
Vince says he's undecided if he'd want it used. For his game it would look terrible to send Lauren home
Ashley says she doesn't evne want Lauren home right now. She's annoyed she didn't put up Kellley but if they get Kelley out, that remvoes that. Becasue she wants to protect Kelley at all cost
Morgan says right now Lauren is the msot protected person in the house. SHe's protected by Vince, Kelley,, Ava. Everyone else has someone coming for them. Which is why putting her on the block when she won't go home would be good for him
Vince says he can't guarantee she won't go home
Ashley says they can almost best the veto is gonna be used this week. The question is who it's going to be used on
Vince says what if Keanu gets picked and wins
Ashley says he hasn' won vetoes lately. He didn't win when he was HOH. He was dead last
They talk about the Blockbuster comp
AShley says she just loves that Lauren doesn't like Keanu anymore
Morgan says for him she won't vote Lauren out. Because Lauren wants Keanu out which means Lauren wants Keanu out of the house, not her. And if he wants her ot use the veto on Lauren, maybe she'll consider it
Vince says maybe she'll consider it
Morgan says just kidding
Ashley says if Kelley goes home this week
Morgan says that's a huge HOH
Ashley says they're pretty much guaranteed to stay next week
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Ashley says she's surprised Ava stayed up this late. Ava and Lauren were out there for a while. THe thing about HOH is it's such a double edged sword. Yay you're safe, but you have to think about everything else
Morgan says the only thing she thinks about is everything Rachel said
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Vince says that was Lauren? She wants to talk to her. To give her a heads up that she might go up. He might run down
Morgan asks if he's gonna be a while. They still have to hang out
Vince says don't be scared. He's just really nervous about the veto being used. Cause that really screws up so much. Essentially the outline is if it's Ava, Kelley, Ashley, or Ava, Kelley, Keanu. Lauren wins veto, takes Ava down. He would want to do Keanu backdoor. It would be Ava, Kelley, Ashley. Lauren wins veto, takes Ava down, he puts Keanu up. He stays, and puts him, Morgan, and Lauren on the block together. HE claims she took over his HOH and says that's more powerful than his HOH. That's a separate conversation. What Morgan and AShley are saying is they would rather see Keanu or Kelley go. They wdon't want Kelley to go home. So they think ?? take Lauren off and put Keanu up. And it breaks Lauren's streak of being untouchable because she hasn't been on the block. They also say they keep her in any scenario. But do they trust that and would they be willin gto gamble that? Becuase that's very scary for him. And that appeases everyone in the house and guarantees Lauren's safety. But they swear on everything because they want Kelley gone, and they would want Ava gone. And he said they realize what that would do to him if anything happen to Lauren on his HOH, and they would be the ones that made him look like an idiot. That terrifies him because he'd have to be trusting he or Lauren win veto and they take him or. Morgan or Ashley win veto and they take her off.
Morgan pokes her head in and says she's going to DR but she'll be back
Morgan's concern is that you want her out. he keeps tellin gher that Lauren doesn't want her out
Lauren says if they promise to work together instead of against each other, she's willin gto do whatever
Vince says it just make shim nervous
Lauren says she doesn't want to go up
Vince says he doesn't want to put her up, but if that' sthe olive branch and if Morgan is willin gto burn him of all people
Lauren says no, she's talking about more in a sense of moving forward
Vince says he knows they've run the numbers and she has AVa Kelley and he has just Morgan and supposedly Keanu. If she and Morgan and him, and Ashley even can get on the same page, then even if she loses Kelley this week, she's guaranteed to make final four. BEcause they'll do everything possible to ensure Keanu or Ava leave.s And that doubles their chance of getting further. The way HOH worked out Kelley goes home or Keanu. He doesn' tcare. But he needs them on the same page. Or he's gonna pull his hair out. He needs them both in the game
Lauren asks what he's thinkgin
Vince says in that scenario it would have to be Ava, Kelley, her
Lauren asks why she has to go up
Vicne says she would have the veto use don her. it's essneitally the whol ehouse except fo rKeanu who may or may not get picked
Lauren says mm
Vince says he's not saying he's doing that. HE's tryingto run all scenarios. He's trying to pain the picture if the veto's not used on AVa or Kelley. And her being next to them would put her in a position where she doesn't have to. She could not, but then they'd be like why not use it? If she said she had to honor Vince's HOH, it's too late for that. You have to play for yourself
Lauren says she can't rely on them to win veto or use it on her. She can't rely on Keanu not ??
Vince says they say even if Ava or Kelley wins, Keanu's the replacement, they keep Lauren numerically
Lauren says she can't
Vince says she doesn't think so?
Lauren say sshe thinks it's too risky
Vince says it feels very risky. It feels safest for his game to make sure what he wants to happen happens, but he would have ot put a shit ton of trust in those two, to guarantee no matter who she's sitting nex tot she has two votes
Lauren says that' sthe situation she was in last week tha tKeanu wanted. Put Vince up, she'd have two votes guaranteed. IF he doesn't want her to use it she won't
Vince says she can't. The more he thinks about it, it would screw everything up. But wouldn't they be ad at her?
Lauren says she woul dbe in a bad position. If one of them went home, but, if she's not on th eblock then, she'll do whatever. She can't rely on
Vince says he doesn't want to put her in a bad position, but that's the only way to help his game is for one of them gone
LAuren sk fi there' snay way to get Morgan to trust her
Vince says yes. She needs to get over a vote to evict Rylie
Lauren says they can all four talk, and sh ewould like to do that, but...
Vince says all four of them, him, her, Morgan, and Ashley? RIght now? or tomorrow
Lauren says tomorrow. But he doesn't want ot be a nom
Vince says he knows. He's just telling her what woul dbe the cleanest move for his game. They don't believe she wouldn't use the veto. THat would be the only way while ensuring she's safe. They're all nom'd together, they all have to play for themselves. She would be pulled down
Lauren says if Keanu got picked he'd gun for it to make sure noms the same, and she'd be fucked
Vince says she wouldn't because they promise she'd be good over Ava or Kelley
Lauren says he can't trust them right now
Vince says he told them he has to guarantee her safety. He would need her sign off and her guarnteed safety. Btu it scared him, becaue he needs her ot have as much confidence as he has. Thie rtarget is Kelley. She lies blatantly. Or Keanu. Whoever the renom is. Or whoever wins Blockbuster
Lauren says so in this scenario he would put up Ava, Kelley, Keanu straigh tup?
Vince says if he did, they think Lauren wins veto, uses it on Ava, then he's forced to ?? Ashely and he has a dud of a week
Lauren says she won't winv eto then
Vinc esays he doesn't want her in a position where she's force dto throw
Lauren says she'd rather be in that position than be put on th eblock
Vince says true. THey just don't believe she would do that. He believes she would. He doesn't want her to feel idnirectly responsible for one of her allies going
Lauren says why don't they trust it? When she picke Morgan first
Vince says he todl her that
Lauren says and then she picked Rachel
Vince says he doesn't want her to be in that bad position. IF she wins veto, she has to upset him or Ava or Kelley, but if she throws it and one goes home she's gonna feel idnirectly responsible, which weakens her game in a sense. He feels like sh ewould feel stupid or feel lik ehe's stupid for putting her in a position where she's ?? an ally going home. He doesn't want her to have that on her guilty conscience. All he does is send my allies home. That's why he'd love to be on the same page as her, and Morgna, and Ashley. Morgan want sKeanu gone. And Kelley pisses everyone off with their lies. So if they can pivot and go with this group. He doesn't want to go with Keanu. He swears they're boys or whatever. Get out of here man. That's why the pitch is to guarantee her safety and that she doesn't have any tough deicsion to make, then she's on the block as the initial nom, then she stays with veto or votes, and it's puttin ga lot of trust in them
Lauren says the only guarantee is if she's off the block. That's what it came down when she used the veto on him. The only guarantee is if Vince is off the block
Vince says he remembers. They were saying he had the votes too, and he doesn't know if he did
Lauren says same thing with renom. She'll do whatever he says
Vince says he doesn't want to feel like a dictator. IT's tough because he's working with her, but in order to work with her it's almos tlik eworking against her allies. But if they can refomrulate her new allies and get to four together. Are you kidding? He has three HOHs and a blcokbostuer and a maniacal maze. She has two HOHs and a maniacal maze. Morgan has two vetoes back to back. Ashley has jack shit. And maybe AVa gores further too. HE doesn't care whate direction it goes, it depends who wins HOH. But it's risky ebcause yes it appeases everybody and she says yup I'm willin gto trus tyou guys and I'm going to go up
Lauren says she's sorry, he can't allow going up
Vince says yeah, then she can' tuse veto
Lauren says then she'd rather not use veto than go up
Vince says but he doesn't awnt to strong arm her. He's trying to explain his dilemma without being lik e?? need to go up. He's constantly in ?? guarantee her safety but ?? people who would put him up
Lauren says she asked Ava about, she said she'd talk to him tomorrow. But she said ??
Vince says anyone else?
Lauren says she'll let her say, but
Vince asks what to do? Keanu straight up?
Lauren says he could. And then if he come sdown, then he could put Ashley up
Vince says he would have to
Lauren asks how they got here?
Vince says he doesn't know. He's trying to figure this out where it's guaranteeing safety but also what each of them want sto happen happens. He doesn' trust Kelley ?? anywya. SHe's going to try to form a wedge between them. She lies for fun. AS a hobby
Lauren says she wants Keanu out
Vince says him too. And that coul d happen this week. But it depedns if it's front door back door. And whether she trusts that they guarantee hersafety if she goes up, and Keanu goes up back door
Lauren says mm mm
Vince says she doesn't trust it?
Lauren says mm mm. That's one thing she can't do. She cna do a lot of things but she can' tbe okay with that
Vince asks would sh ehate him if she threw the competition. He knows she wants to rack up comp wins. She's free tod o whatever she wants. It's BB. You can lie, whatewver you want. But that would fuck his entire game
Lauren say sshe understands. She would do what's best for them
Vince asks if she' dbe okay witht that? Doe sshe hate him more every time he wins some kind of comeptition?
Lauren says um... no
Vince says he's just trying to figure it out. He's not trying to strongarm her. He wants her looped in on everything that's said to him
Lauren says she appreciates that. She just... she doesn't wnat to go up and she'd be really sad if she goes up and upset. But she'll do whate he wants her to do
Vince says he knows, and he doesn't ... he just had to run it by her because he's just running all scenarios right now. But he also doesn't want to break anything that they have. Bcause the end goal is still the same. But he also agrees. HE would agree if the weeks were flipped last week and she was like she wants Morgan to go home and she needs him to go up to make sure he doesn't use the voet. And she didn't do that to him. And she was right. And he does believe she would protect his safety even over Ava's
Lauren says she would. She made that promise. Weke one
Vince says she's always stuck to her word and never lied to him or burned him on anything
Lauren says the only time she ever flat out lied was to Mickey and she was really struggling with it
Vince says it's such a hard game. He feels guilty making her feel guilty if she wins the veto and doesn't use it
Laurne says hopefully she doesn't get picked
Vince says yeah but the odds of that are 5-1?
Lauren says yeah
Vince says she's going to get picked
Lauren says she's probably gonna get picked
Vince says he's playing, 1, 2, 3, nominees, then two people get picked. two out of three odds. Or more if Ava gets picked. Or Kelley. So five out of six chance.Random draw or Ava or Kelley. BUt he guesses it's kind of similar to what he did last week. He knew it'd be a tough position if he won veto. He thought he was flying. He did take a joy ride at the end.
Lauren says she knew Morgan was gonna win
Vince says okay so scrap that idea?
Lauren says sorry
Vince says no he's just bringing up the idea. HE didn't want to break trust by ?? They're still upstairs
(They start yawning)
Vince says that would be pretty foolish to put a final two on the block even if you're guaranteed votes
Lauren says ...yeah. So... what is he thinking?
Vince says he's thinking of putting up Keanu just straight up. If Keanu's gonna come after him, he' sgonna come after him, and him and Lauren see the block together
Lauren says she'll win HOH
Vince says he hopes she does. that's why putting her up would appease Keanu
Lauren says if he used the veto on her
Vince says he's only appeased the first half of the week
Lauren says that's what she did last week and nothing changed. She wished she put him up initially. Her stomach hurts
Vince says okay. He's just gonna put Keanu up straight up then, and they battl eit out. HE can' tcompete next week. It has to be a double
Lauren says let's consider something else. If she's playing veto, she doesn't want Keanu coming off so she would have to gun for it
Vince sas then she'd need to keep noms the same, because he can't put AShley up. As weird as it sounds. But at least she' dbe gunning for veto off th eblock than going with their plan. HE feels more comfortable with her winning veto and not using it than ?? and having it used on her. he wants to gun for it too to leave noms the same. Everyone else who's picked will be gunning for it he's sure. But that's the thing, he needs noms to stay the same
Lauren asks why AShley can't go up. Because Morgan would be upset?
Vince says Morgan would be upset, and because she could end up going home. What Keanu tries to do, if AShley is the renom, Keanu wins blockbuster, he comes off. They send Ashley home to make him look liek a whiff. THen he has Kelley. He hates both of them, and then he's totally screwed and has no numbers. Lauren has AVa and Kelley. He has Morgan and Lauren. and that's it. And it's five against one
Lauren says she thinks her going up is not a good idea t all. Sh edoesn't trust anyone except for him
Vince says he agrees. He thinks that's why he wasg etting crazy with it. And running it by her
Lauren says if she was just doing this for fun maybe, but she really wants to be here. He knows that
Vince says of course
Lauren says Kelley in the beginning was like yeah she wants to go up, TV show. But she thinks she thinks differently now. But she really doesn't want to
Vince says he's not going to. He just wanted to come to her and see if she'd sign off, he knew she'd do the same with him. He thinks she'd come to him to ensure his safety. So if she says Vince do not, he will not. He will always listen to her word over every single one of them
Lauren says Vince do not
Vince says then he won't
Lauren says and she'll do whatever he wants to for veto
Vince says if he's putting Keanu up she has to gun for it. Just cause he doesn't want Keanu to win it. If he does, they're gonna say he has to put her up. BEcause if he puts Ashley up, then it's gonna turn into that faile dweek
Lauren asks so does he put Ashley up to begin with and hope maybe Keanu doesn't get picked?
Vince says he thought of that, but the odds of him gettin gpicked are gonna be high regardless. And then what? He wins it, he keep snoms the same. Vinc eis screwed. Or Keanu fucks with him and uses the veto on Kelley and forces him to put Lauren or Morgan up. He trusts Lauren more than he trust Keanu. WHereas if he was on the block he'd have to use it for himself. If he doesn't put Keanu up and he wins veto and takes Kelley down and forces one of Vince's allies to go out, Keanu would do that as a resume builder. That's why he'd rather put him up straight up. He trusts Lauren wouldn't use the veto more than he trusts Keanu wouldn't win the veto just to fuckw ith his week. DOes that make sense? That's wher ehis brain is going. He's though tevery way he could backdoor him. If he doesn't, Keanu wants to take Kelley to the end. They ahve a final two and he knows he'll beat her. So if he wins and he' snot on the block there's a good chance he takes Kelley off, then he's forced to put up Lauren or Morgan and they control numbres. And it could be Lauren because htey could say Lauren has the better resume. And if Lauren wen ton his HOH because he risked not putting Keanu up first, then h emight as well self evict at that point. That's why he thinks he'd have to put Keanu up upfront in that scenario. IT's funny becaues Keanu is the one who put that takeover in his mind because he said Lauren would do that to him. She would take Ava down, and he'd have to put Keanu or Morgan up
Lauren how is he making it seem like... well he thinks they're allies
Vince and Lauren continue talking in the wine room
Morgan pokes her head in and says what's up. She says it's 4 o'clock
Vince says it's 4?!
Morgan leaves
Lauren says she's angry
Vince says it's always at him. He'll just have to put Keanu up up front. And just trust that Lauren won't win veto. And if he wins veto and takes himself off, then just put Ashley up
Lauren says mhm
Vince says that' sthe only way to keep her safety adn Morgan's until they acn get on the same page
Lauren says the only way to guarantee her and Morgan's safety is to not put either of them up
Vince say sos it has to be Ava, Kelley, Keanu. If he takes himself off, Ashley as the renom
Lauren says yeah
Vince says that guarantees their safety at least, and then they deal with the rrepercussiosn of Keanu later
Lauren says but they never know what the veto could be
Vince says no idea
Lauren says Keanu hasn't won veto since week four
Vince says he doesn't think it'll be physical. TH ebackyard's open
Lauren says vetotroopolis
Vince says ?? so stupid.
Lauren says she was telling Ava this earlier. They're like so serious. They'r elike blockbuster. Vetotropolis. But yeah she thinks ?? it's going to be okay
Vince says alright. Let's go to sleep
Lauren says yeah she's taken her makeup off, she's going to sleep
Morgan says she's worried that coming Zingbot episode, his gf's gonna hate her
Vince says no, she's not. She'll find it funny if anything. She'll probably be flattered. She'll be like people like your man. Not that she likes him
Morgan says she was like not to be mean but like
Vince says he knows. She doesn't have ot say it
Morgan says she's not being mean but
Vince says he knows. HE's always known
Morgan says that's the part that was confusing to her is that she thought they gave best friend energy
VInce says yeah they'r ehomies
Morgan says she's always liek her boy Vinny, her dog
Vince says not her love
Morgan says no. She's like "my dog Vinny pulled out a win let's fucking go!"
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Morgan asks how his talk with Lauren was. They were in there for a while
Vince says yeah, he's feeling torn. Obviously
Morgan asks if he wants to talk about it
Vince says yes
Morgan says okay
Morgan sits on the bed and say she'll get in her spot
Vince says also, he can't even talk about thing sanymore. Can't even suggest things. He was about to say if she's allowed to sleep
(Feeds switch)
MOrgan says ?? level that it is
Vince says Kelsey could watch the live feeds right now
Morgan says she's probably watching right now
Vince says he doesn't care because he knows she doesn't care
Morgan says also, it' sbeen giving platonic. Unless platonic has a new meaning to it. Maybe hugging is the new... way of being in a showmance. Please go to the diary room downstairs
Vince gets called to the DR
Morgan says she will take her contacts out and bring a blanket up here up here because she's not going to sleep with Keanu's fucking bare sounding snoring ass
Vince says it's pretty bad
Morgan asks if he's sure
Vince says yes. Let him think about it. Yes
Morgan says because you know. Zingbot might come back and say he asked her to marry him. Had her sleeping on the day bed
Vince says was that a proposal we just saw?
Vince and Morgan leave the HOH room
Vince goes to the DR
Morgan goes and gets her blanket and pillow from the camp room downstairs, gets some prep items from the bathroom, cleans off her makeup, changes, and heads back to the HOH room. She sets up on one of the benches and unpacks her prep items in the HOH bathroom.
Morgan talks to the cams
Morgan: What is VInny gonna do? Here's my opinion. I do not think, that Vinnw ants to put Lauren up. And I think he's gonn amake her promise not to use the veto if she wins. And he's going to have to... rely... on... her. And I literally don't udnerstand, what it is with him adn Lauren because, Lauren literally told Ava pros and cons that came from Vinny. And Will found out from Ava because of Lauren that we were not voting to keep him. That is so frustrating bro. (sigh) Oh I should've grabbed M&Ms. That's what I needed to grab
Morgan heads downstairs, checks on the laundry outside, goes back inside and starts folding items on the kitchen table
Morgan: Not gonna I forgot what I, oh M&Ms. Need to get M&Ms
Vince returns from the DR
Morgan: Hey, grab M&Ms
Vince says he can't find the M&Ms
Morgan says really? What the fuck? She'll bring up the towels
Vince goes into the HOH room
Morgan comes up with the towels
Morgan: I was up here and I look at the thing, there's a pile of towels. I'm like I need to grab M&Ms. As I'm folding the towels I forgot what I was down there for. I was like oh the towels. As I'm folding I was like I did not come down here for the towels. It was funny. Thank you for letting me use your daybed.
Iwasn't like ohh, I was like okay? Not the zing I thought i Was gonna get. Then I looked around and people were looking at me like crazy and that's when I started getting really weird because I"m like... what the fuck? like. What I wanted to be like is... yall know i"m not Kelsie right? Like yall know. We have pictures to prove who his girlfriend is. Yall know I'm his number one. But like... Cause remember when he was like what happens with this nad that. I was like I"m his number one. of course i"m gonna get excited when I see you. I'm gonna hug you
I like blacked out
The szing was Morgan... What ddo you call when she lights up whenever Vince walks into the room> the second they said you rname I was like wow they're going there. I light up wheneve rI see you. The passionate hugs. And something else
Affectionate cuddles or something
WE don't cuddle
I know. It was affectionate something. Snuggle
which is weird. BEcause whewnever we lay next to each other, I've never laid up on you like this. On teh hammock we were always facing each other
Vince: yes I have not ;spooned you at any point
Morgan: (laugh) no. Even on your bed. Even the closest was like my pillow. THat's why I made sure you have a poillow I have a pillow. You have a blanket I hav ea blanket. that' why they were liek what do you call it? I was like his number one? They were like girlfriend! I was like...
got zinged twice and yours was pointless. Not even about you
I was really hoping it was gonna be about e. I guess it's just baou tthe way I act
whatever. Too loyal for your own good I guess. Also you're just an affectionate person. That's the impression I got. If you love people they're gonna know it
I don't know. I cna just feel people are like he has a girlfriend. She should...
No they're gonna say about me, he's allowing it. Oh he's a cheater. He's an emotional and physicla cheater. That's what i'ma fraid of
It's okay, I'm afraid of the same thing. Which is dumb. I was venting about it earlier like it's a gmae you're trying to survive, and when you meet somebody, that's your number one, that's who you rely on. Emotionally, mentally, physically fo rRylie and Kathy
even physically, if you're feeling down
a hug. A back rub
Vince: yeah. So what?
It old Keanu it's not like I"m giving him back rubs. When I think of back rubs, I'm thinking the shirt is off
You know who's really given me deep back rubs? Jimmy and Rylie
Welp they're in love with you
clearly
I don't know. It's hard because. It's funyn because Keanu's like I always ?? you're one of hte girls who's cool with the guys. It's funny because I always get that but I'mv a very big girls girl, so it's like I"m not the girl who's only for the guys or only for the girls. I even told Ashley this. I tuck in Kelley every night before she goes to sleep
do you love her?
I think I"m obsessed with her
gonna take a long hard look in the morning hug
I should probably stop tucking her in huh
tha'ts wierd
I don't know. i think the funny part to me is I never thought baout it. I didn't expect that zing to come because I wasn't ever thinking ti was ever crossing
Vince: no
Morgan: that's the thing. People usually know what they're doing. If they're tyring to be snaky or whatever. I told Ashley, the only time I've touched this man's hand is when we're across and we're saying goodnight. The only time I've touched his skin is if i"m talking about hsi tattoos. I don't kno whow else I could be more platonic
Vince: You can't
Morgan: Nice to meet you Vince
Vince: Good night. Just a firm handshake. Good morning and goodnight
I hope when America watches us they see a best friend duo, not whatever Zingbot thinks it is. Okay, you wanna figure this out before we go to sleep and I have to get kicked out and go sleep with the bear?
You can sleep on the bed. I will move. I will be above them, over by. It' slike kids when you're opposite. I'll sleep with my head here. ANd you could be facing my feet. Wiht separate blankets
I'm gona sleep with this (blanket)
Yeah me too
I honestly feel like they'll allow me to sleep here
Okay. I could be wrong
Morgan: It just doesn't make sense that they wouldn't. This is technically a day bed. It's a bed.
Vince: Yes
Morgan: Okay. Or you wanna stay there, you can see?
I can see, yeah
Morgan: hey you're HOH. Looka t you
Vince: Hey no matter what, we're final six. We made top six
Morgan: I know. I'm so proud of you for that HOH by the way
Vince: Thank you
Do you understand? You have three HOHs Vince. What does it mean as a BB super fan to know when you're leaving this house you could be leaving at the least with three HOHs? That is isnane. You know most people don't even reach 3 HOHs in a season?
Vince: ISs that rare?
Morgan: I don't kno who wmany people have reached
3 HOHs is tough
I don't know how many people last season had three HOHs. Maybe Mackenzie. SHe might've had three. SHe might've had two I don't know. I'm trying to at least get one. I am so happy for you. I kne i Didn't get it after I missed two fo the questions, but I was really sad because I Wanted a letter
Oh I know
Morgan: I was telling AShley and Ava today. She was saying the way the doubles work. You still get your basket and your letters, you just don't get a room. I don't car eabout any of that.
Vince: Yours is coming. It's better this way because if this was a mental comp, you're gonna do good at both. Id idn't think I was gonna win this one. But if I was able to win this one, you get to compete next week. And I didn't think I'd even win this one. So if it's anything physical
Morgan: Yeah but I'm also oing against Keanu and Lauren
Vince: Who gives a fuck? You are just as good if not better than them. You just won back to back vetoes. Keanu ?? has won back to back vetoes. Kauycee won the third
Morgan: You wanna talk about this first? Or the conversation with Lauren? ?? talk about Lauren
Lauren, I told her I want Kelley to leave. I said I='m sorry I know we're close, but you put my number one on th eblock last week and I just dealt with it. I"m putting two of yours up , I want at least one of them gone and I cannot have you use the veto. If you're going to use the veto, the only way to guarantee my target goes home if you can respect my game as an individual, fi you respect me at all. I would have to put you on the block next to them. And she was like kind of rattled by it because she though in no worled woudl I do that to her. She was like yes I Would want to us eit on them but if it comes down to me being on the block or me not using a veto or even gunning for it then I Won't use it. I said Lauren if you lie to me ever in this game
Morgan: She has already
but on thsi scale. If you lie to me on this scale, then like everything is broke betbween us forever. You're gonna be ending my game
She has. She told you I'm not the target last week. I was her target
I also told her if she did go on the block I would use the veto on her. Morgan would hopefully get picked to play, Ashley would be playing and take one of the three fo you off and I could guarantee you'd be sitting next to someone you have the numbers to go home or to stay against. BEcause both Morgan and Ashley would keep you over Keanu, Kelley, and I break the tie. And she started to think about it and said would Mrogan actually be willing to work with me after everything
;laugh
hear me out. I said yes. If she needs to keep you safe for my game, she' snot gonna burn me. If you're riding with people you don't burn each other. Not direclty. She was like well it just makes me really neverou.s I'll swear on everything I won't use veto
She has to touch th eblock Vince
I know, so let's run the numbers. You know why I want to put Keanu on the block? I don't trust him whatsoever. You know what other ocmments he's made. Last time the yard was open. The night befor eit closed. Tuesday. He saids Vince wanna hang out back by the hammock? I said yeah of course. I go out back. Keanu says when your girlfriend tells yuo rto do something you gotta listen. So he's making jokes about you being my girlfriend. And then today. Did I tell you this yet? When we were hugging about real life stuff. He said I thought we were on Big BRother, not cheatin island. So he's talking shit baou tme. Disrespecting me. He's put me on th eblock the week befofre juryt. He's th eone that told me if you want it so tbad then win. He's the one who says he wouldn't put you up, then tells the next person he would, then the next person he'd put me on th eblock. Then he's over Kelley he can't stand her, she' spoissing him off. THen Kelley tells me tonight that they have a final two, and he guarantees because he beats her in a landslide. So he uses veto on her beause he knows I want her gone. And he's tlaking abotu Lauren is gonna take over your HOH. Because if you don't put her up she's gonn win the veto take off Ava, they're gonna dictate who goes home and you're gonna send hom eme or Morgan. I thin it's the opposite. If I don't put Keanu up, he takes over my HOH. He talks to me like I"m a fucking idiot. When I'm on All Star si'm gonna play with real players
bold of him to think he'd be on All stars
exactly
they probably draft him to be the comp asshole
?? and he probably puts me up against Lauren and you but oly two of us are gonna be on the block either way. But if you or I win, then we have to gamble that we both stay. If you win you can guarantee I have the numbers. IF I win I have the numbres to guarantee you stay, and then Lauren does go home. But he's pissing me off. He had me begging him crying not to put me up, and he shook his head. Why shouldn't I put you on th eblock? Why? Cause now we're boys again? Why because I won blockbsuter to guarantee I made it to jury. Id idn't want you to go home. I don't give a fuck, you put me on the block. I was gonna use veto on you. You didn't. Nobody did. Morgan tok herself of. Well Iw as gonna get Morgna to try to use veto on yuo. And fuck her over? Which indirectly fucks me over? it pisses me off. And he's gonna be in final two and say he ran this game, and he made it being bold and brash. That's not ?? That's being an asshole
he is an asshole
exactly, he dodn'es tdeserve to win. He keeps tellin gme I'm a lock to win second place
yeah you told me that today, it pisses me off
he doesn't know about the judges
??
he doesn't know ?? Rachel, and Will and Ashley.
here's the thing. Taking AShley as far as possible is what' sbest for our game. Not onlyf or the judges
I expected that today fter we evicted Will. Even though I enjoy Will's company more than hers. I don't mean ?? But I genuinely enjoye spending time with him. I'm sorry but I need to get that out
I dont' want you to think I am team Keanu. He'sa said several things about me. ?? I know when to play that card. Trust mem I have been dying to get him out. But I haven't won ?? The thing is you see the real Keanu when his ass is on the line. ?? If he was on the block then you know I Would've evicted him. Even if him staying would be better
Vince: Yeah I would too
Because if we're being real, Will staying as a weapon is ?? dangerous ?? Keanu. I don't care much ?? Keanu. I think he's a decent guy, but I would've been fine... here's the thing. Keanu is only good to you or anyone, if you're good to him. But he expects you to bend over backwards after he said sorry after hes done some fucked up shit
Vince: Yueah. He comes ot me after the Zingbot thing and says, asa friend I just feel like I should et you know the prception, if my gf was in here and she leaned on some guy's knee, just cause you leaned on me over a blanket, I would dump her ass immediately. I said okay. He's like but that's my relationship. Your dynamic is totally different. SO that's what the public percption is. other people must be talkin about it, but as a friend I thought I should just let you know. Like yeah cause AZingbot just made a zing about it. If you're my friend you would've told me three weeks ago. That you're looking cozy with Morgan
It's so weird. It'd be differnet if I Was straddlign you. I would catch myself
I ?? you because you'r elike I watch Family Guy with the boys
He has a huge L couch and we are all sitting on there
We all went downtown and he came over and stayed in my bed with me. Platonically
I know. It exists. It's a crazy concept
It's just hard because it' slike the only thing I can hope for is that I'm not being perceived. Like the show isn't makiing me into this girl that's doing that
The show isn't about that. The show is about competitions and backstabbign adn drama and laughs and moments
Morgan: At first I felt like people would be like VInny and Morgan are ride or dies. Now granted there are some decisions I feel liek you haven't been but that' spart of the game. And that's probably what America's wondering. Are they gonna makeit because X decision adn X that. I think the only thing that I regret is after the zin, cause I was chilling. I was like anyone wnat some pizza? But when I kinda thought about it for a seocnd I was like wait are they implying XYZ? ANd of cours eI vent out loud and Keanu is listening. I see the camera turning and i"m like damn I hope this part doesn' tmake the episode because I'm just venting like wow this could ruin my real life
Vince: No
Morgan:but it would only ruin it if it was actually real and that's actually what' shappening
Vince: No. Don't worry about that
Morgan: Even in the past there's been people that had relationships. Sara Beth had a boyfriend adn she was extrmeely close with Kyland. THey were laying in the bed together. And they were both really respectful. I don't know. People are weird. I totally understand how you feel baout Keanu. More than anything. But I think we also had to just talk about it. Whatver you're gonna do I'm gonan support you. I'm gonan say things just to have you think because I Want you to maek the best decision for you. The hting I don't get about Laure is that now that she might go on the block now she's thinkin well does Morgan want to work wiht me because he back's against the wall. Not because she wants to work wih tme. I don't want to work with her. That ship has sailed since the day she voted me out and couldn't tell me to my face
Vince: No I know
Morgan: I don't want to work with someone that wants me out of this house. ANd it's insulting for her to think that I would
Vince: she was just asking because I was saying if she did go on the block I was trying to ensure your safety, and I was saying you'd have to be trusting some people outside of your numbres. That's why she was like could you actually ensure that?
Morgan: I understand her question. But her quetsionalso implies that what she' done oesn't deserve a vote from me. Which is true. I was her target Vince. And I know you know that
Vince: You were Kenau's target oo
Morgan: Yes But I'm talkin gabout you rnumber two. I was her target. Even though my two vetoes are nothing compared to what Keanu or Kelley have in this game, but she wants me out to get closer to you. Adn to have you not be close to me
Vince: I think she was intiialyl afraid of Kenau more than she was fraid of you
Morgan: No because she didn't want to put Keanu up week three, but she did because the house wanted. I don't know how to tell you thi sbut I know from other sources that she wants me out of this house. She obviously wants Keanu now becaue Keanu's coming after her, but she wants me out of this house Vince. ID on't know if she's told you things and you're afraid to tell me because you don't want meto get more upset.
Vince: no. She's never told me she wants you out
Morgan: Of course she's not going to tell you that
Vince: ?? think Ashley talks shit about us too. Maybe it's to throw off th scnet and that's fine, but I do think she participates in that
Morgan: in what?
Vince: in us being too close and having to split us up. Maybe it's to throw off th escent
Morgan: who says that?
Vince: Kelley says that a lot. Lauren says that
Morgan: Kelley and Ashley do not talk. AShley does not liek Kelley. Lauren and AShley do not talk. Obviously they're going to say that it's Ashley
Vince: In any case
Morgan: You don't need to worry about AShley
Vince: I'm not worried about her. That' sbesides the point
Vince: If I put Keanu up, does that ?? my chances of having ?? votes
Morgan: Okay, let's say. Who do you wanna put up right now? Kelley, Keanu, Ava?
Vince: Kelley, Keanu, Ava. Yes
Morgan: Okay, let's put them up on the block. Me and Ashley cheering them on teh sidelines. Lauren is your renom, correct?
Vince: Yes
Morgan: So you want to run scenarios if Keanu were to stay. Let's say Keanu wins veto. Takes himself down. Lauren goes up. I'm gonna tell you right now, the hardest part is a Lauren Ava vote. I'm not sure Ashley would be able to vote out Ava. I knkow LAuren is best for your game, but Ava is also good for our game, belieeve it or not. I know she'll put us up on th eblock
Vince: Ava does no good for my game
Morgan: Hear me out
Vince: I'll hear you out but
Morgan: She cannot win a competition Vince
Vince: Yes she can. Do not underestimate her
Morgan: Okay, compared to everyone else here, aside from AShley she cannot win a comp. Specifically a physical one
Vince: Physically and endurance probably not
Morgan: So she's beatbal.e You can beat her. I can beat her. So to me, an Ava Lauren vote is going to be very hard. Keanu would vote her out. I don't know aht Kelley will do. And it leave sit up to me and Ashley adn I honestly do not think Ashley will vote to keep Lauren
Vince: what if Ashley's the renom?
Morgan: You wanna break the judge's alliance?
Vince: no, just wondering if the numbres are guaranteed she stays. I want Ava or Kelley or Keanu. Id on't fucking care
Morgan: You know who goes next to them every time? IF Lauren goes nex tto them they go home every time
Vince: Are you sure?
Morgan: Let's run the numbers. Let's say you put up the girls. Someone wins veeto, who cares who wins it and pulls Ava down and Keanyu goes up. Kelley wins blockbuster. That's already two votes. AVa's also gonna vote to keep LAuren. Iw ill do that for you. And I hope you know that vote will only be because of you, not because I want her in this house. Cause fuck Keanu at all cost. It is... period. And let's say that's Kelley. These are the same votes. He's gonnav ote to keep Kelley. Lauren stays no matter what enxt to Kelley or Keanu. So if you put up Ava, your initial noms, you ahve to hope she odesn't use the veto to take down Ava
Vince: that's Lauren?
Morgan: this is Lauren. This is Ava. Kelley, Keanu. You have to hope she doesn't win and actuall win
Vince: If she wins and doesn't use veto, I'm forced to put up AShley
Morgan: no if she wins and doesn't use
Vince: then nobody. Then that guarantees somebody I want to go home goes home. I have to trust she doesn' tuse it though
Morgan: you have to trust she doesn't use it
Vince: She's never broken her word to me
Morgan: If shesuyes it she'd probably use it on Kelley
Vince: no, Ava
Morgan: Then she uses it on Ava, and Ashley goes up. That story is going to be a problem. If Ashley were to ever go home, she will talk about this HOH. How Lauren was not up in the first place, knowing she told you she wouldn't use it and then she used it anyway, and Ashley went hoime
Vince: I don't think Lauren would have the heart to lie to me about that
Morgan: she lied to you about not wanting me out of the house. She todl Ava ?? and Ava told Will because Lauren opened her mouth to Ava. Will ahd to learn that we were voting to evict him before we could tell him. That did not come from anyone but Lauren. Because you ran numbers with her and pro snad cons wiht her. And she told Ava. I had checked in with Ava today, and she was asking me how she was. She's like I"m okay. She's like me and Will knew. HE did not know that at all. We woke up 50/50 strill. but because of you conversationw tih Lauren, she told Ava, and Will knew he was going home. I don't have any respect for that. You trusted her with information adn she todl Ava. You'r esupposed to be her number one. Adn that's your number two
Vince: telling information, yeah that irritated me
Morgan: She put me on the block
Vince: And she knows that irritated me too. and she knew I was gonna use the veto on you anyway
Morgan: but she doesn't care that it irritated you
Vince: but I don't think she would lie. She's chalking it up to I sent her allies home so I don't have any right to get mad. But when it comes to directly lying to my face. And my saying Lauren if you use the veto you are screwing my gaem you cannot use it and she promises she will not
Morgan: She doesn' twant to touch the block because she knows if she goes another week without, she gets scloser and closer to 750k
Vince: she's not gonna fucking win. BEcause of that? You think she's gonna go ?? season
Morgan: did you not see last season?
Vince: Chelsie played a great game. Chelsie got Makensy to evict Leah. She had all types of strategic move s to earn that iwn. Besides avoid th eblock what has Lauren done? Two HOHs and av eto
Morgan: a veto to save you
Vince: right. Adn that sent her ally Rylie home
Morgan: yeah but she ?? her number one
Vince: right so why would she lie and burn me?
Morgan: because she's lied to you since
Vince: I don't believe it
Morgan: ??
Vince: I'm gonna fucking scream. I don't think you were her target but I do think she was okay with you going home
Morgan: how does that make you feel Vince?
Vince: fucking mad. But it's hard when you make commitments to two separate people on two different sides of the house
Morgan: what commitments have oyu made to her?
Vince: that we wouldn't go after each othre
Morgan: I just want you to be honest
Vince: I'm gonna yell
Morgan: At least just be real what you have with her
Vince: We have
Morgan: I think I deserve to know
Vince: yes. I don't know. We've always said we're gonn ahave each others' back. Even when she was scared of Rachel. And she didn't put me up when Keanu was pushing hard. She's consulted me. And she's kept her promise to me. She picked you in the maze
Morgan: she didnt want to
Vince: but she kept her word to me
Morgan: if I told her I was gonna use it on Rachel sh ewould've picked Kelley
Vince: no she would've stuck to her word
Morgan: ??
Vince: no Mrogan, it's not a final. That's such an extreme leap. I think Keanu's right. I'm just a lock for second place I guess. We said we were gonna protect each other if we had a chance to
Morgan: So you wanna protect someone who wants me out
Vince: that sounds so bad when you put it that way
Morgan: let's ?? just hear me out. Let's say Ava's gone. Lauren wins HOH. She's gonna put up me, Ashley, and Keanu. And then, let's say Keanu wins blockbusetr. Or let's say someone wins and noms stay the same. Kenau wins blockbuster. Do you see the block? They are going to send me home, because I'm a bigger tyhreat. And I will go home on Lauren's HOH. You cannot save me with one vote
Vince: That would be a very specific scenario though
Morgan: Okay. That's fine. Put up who you want to put up, and I will adapt and figure out what I want to do next week
Vince: You know I'm protecting you over everyone else. It's just a hard psoition because she's never
Morgan: I don't know that you are Vince
Vince: don't say that
Morgan: I'm gonna say cause it's honest
Vince: I can't believe you would even say that. You don't know that? You don't know that I Would protect you over everything else? How do you not know that?
Morgan: Do I really have to say it?
Vince: Just beause I have a number one and a number two and I don't want to target my number two?
Morgan: You putting her up is not targeting her
Vince: You and her are the only votes I have. Who else is gonna keep me?
Morgan: Vince, putting her on the block doesn't mean you're targeting her... Okay lt's run this. Let's say Ava goes home, and Kelley wins HOH. Lauren doesn't see that block yet again for anotehre week. Lauren goesanotehr week without touching the block. Time and time again. Even if you win she's not touching th eblock. If she goes to final four or final three without ever touching the block she wins the game
Vince: I don't think that wins the game. That's not enough
Morgan: In a three nominee season? She made an entire season without ever touching the block. That means people didn't find her a threat even though she is one. Apparently her social game would have been strong enough to never touch that block. That's why Chelsie never touched th eblock. That moves her social game from being very lackluster to very above par because she never touched the block ... You picked Lauren on the maniacal maze Vince
Vince: Tha'ts gonna haunt me for the rest of my life
Morgan: I don't want it to haunt you. I'm just saying you already have
Vince: So is the only way that you're not upset with me is if i put her up straight up?
Morgan: you can do whatever you want Vince
Vince: I know but we're working together so I want you to actually support what I'ms aying not just saying I"m fine with what you want to do
Morgan: I don't know what to say to that
Vince: I don't think it woul dbe good if she left on my HOH. That's what i'm saying. I don't want her to go home this week. I want AVa or Kelley going, or Keanu
Morgan: it doesn't make sense for Ava to go home
Vince: So Kelley or Keanu then. I don't care
Morgan: If you put up the three girls. I'm not saying don't come after Keanu
Vince: Do I lose a vote if I put up Keanu? Cause I need two
Morgan: Here's the thing. If you put the girls up. Ther'es a chance Keanu doesn't even get selected for veto
Vince: THere's like a four out of five chance he does
Morgan: no, it's a one in seven chance. 2 in 7 chance cause of Kelley. Unless you tell Kelley that you want a repalcement nome. Well actually no, you can't tell Kelley that because she has to stay on the bloick. Here's the biggest risk, if you put up the girls you have to hope Kellye or Keanu does not win veto.we don't know what the veto is, but have to hope they don't win it and hope one of these people win it. Cause with this comes this and sehs tays. ideally you want both of them to end up on your blockbuster. ANd I'm sorry but if Lauren's next to them she's still not gonan go home
Vince: That's Kelley Keanu?
Morgan: Yes. I know you want AVa out, but she's the least of your problems. She's not putting us up together
Vince: I think it's me you Keanu. She's not gonna put Kelley, Lauren, or AShley up
Morgan: At the end of the day, Keanu would put us both up, Kelley would, Ava would. But Ava is the least threatening of everyone. Her social game is impeccable right now but she cannotw in a comp
Vince: wasn't this the argument to get rid of Will?
Morgan: very different. Sitting nex to him we would've went home. BEcause he had Kelley and Ava's guaranteed vote. You couldn't convince either to vote against him. Kelley's different. Kelley would vote to keep Lauren, Ava over Keanu. She's more flexible. That wasn't the case cause she wasn't evne on the blok
...
Morgan: ...and I"m just supposed to be cool about it like i"m just supposed to be okay
Vince: No I'm not expecting you to like. It's just hard for me to like
Morgan: make a choice
Vince: no. Not making a choice
Morgan: You know fi she goes against you and uses the veto. You know, it's done. Like, that decision will be done. ANd it'll change hte entire trajectory of this game, and it'll be very hard for us to make it to the end
Vince: like what would be done? Our games?
Morgan: if she uses that veto knowing that her two numbers are on the block
Vince: I just don't think she would lie to me. Not about that. And on the flip side, if Keanu wins, does he pull Kelley off?
Morgan: I don't know. You'r enot gonna do Kelley, Keanu, Lauren
Vince: No. I'm not gonna make both of them mad
Morgan: I mean. You're gonna do what you wanna do Vince. I don't really know what to tell you. AShley's laid out scenarios. We've given you numbers. We've done scenarios. I really don't know hwat to tell you
(Vince heads into the bathroom)
(Morgan lays down on the bench and puts her face under her blanket; sounds like she's tearing up. She wipes her face/eyes and goes back into her blanket)
(Morgan pops her head back out from the blanket)
Morgan: you know how you say Lauren going home would fuck up your game? Then Ava going home would fuck up mine
Vince: alright then let's keep them both. I don't want to fuck up your game
Morgan: No offense but your number two if fucking up my game. She literally voted me out of this house Vince, and she put me on the block as her target cause she didn't care if I went home or not. Which would directly fuck up your game
Vince: Yeah it would
Morgan: and i just don't understand
Vince: pretty bad
Morgan: I don't understand anything anymore. It's just so stupid. Just do what you want Vince
(Morgan goes back under the blanket)
Vince: Morgan
Morgan: hm? Yeah
Vince: What do you do if you're in my positin?
What would I have done?
Say at this point in the game... you are number ones with me. Ashley is your number two
and she hasn't touched the block?
No, you're in my position
and she hasn't touched the block
she wants me evicted, and she's telling you to put me up every chance you get. But she's never done anything to burn you. Th eentire game she's helped you. She's saved your life in the gae
Then don't put her up Vince
I want to knwo your perspecrtive
Morgan: I've already said
woudl you put her up?
Morgan: IT's a game Vince. Someone who has not touched th eblock, is a problem. But if you don't think it is, then don't put her up, and we will see hwo this game turns out. I don't know what else to say. Cause, as much as I can look from your perspective, I will never understand it cause i"m on the other side. It's almost lie if you want to ask me that qwuestion, ask yourself. You rnumber two wnats me out to separate you from me. She does not want me here and has said that to multiple people
who has she said that to?
doesn't matter, and it'sg otten back to me
it's probably from Ashley adn she's gossipping
she's not gossiping. She told Ava and Ava told ??
so Ava's not a vote
The way Ava would imply things... Here's the thing. Do I think Ava said Lauren said this this, btu the way ?? gives out information without evne having to ask. ?? can be like I want ?? out of this house ?? that's a simple way to say you're not wrong but she' snot saying anything. I guess my struggle with Lauren is with how you have a really hard time seeing what I'm dealin gwith. Your number two wants me out of this house
but I need two votes to stay in thsi house. So I need both fo you here
Morgan: right, and so do I. And if I go home on Lauren's HOH, then that's something you will have to ??
Vince: that's not gonna happen caus eI'll never end up on the block next to you
Morgan: but that's like two votes to evict me
Vince: that's only if she wins net week
Morgan: and your one vote can't help me. Especially if Ashley is sitting next to me
Vince: I don't think so if Keanu's here
Morgan: it would be me, Ashley and Keanu. And somebody has to win the block buster, and God forbid it's Keanu. Then it is me and Ashley. And then I hve to beg Keanu for a vote? Your one vote cannot save me Vince. ANd who knows what Keanu will try to tell Kelley. We gotta split them up bro. Ashley's easy to beat. We've hear dall of his arguments. He's used it on every perosn. I will go home on your number two's HOH if she wins next week and misses on Keanu
Vince: So is me putting up Keanu even worse? She has one less person?
Morgan: I think you know what you wanna do
Vince: No, I don't. Cause if I put Keanu up. Say I put Keanu up up front with Ava and Kelley. Lauren wins the veto, and does use it. Then I have to put AShley up
Morgan: Yup. Because you trusted Lauren
Vince: But if she sticks to her word and does not use it
Morgan: And she willing to lose a numebr? Be so for real
Vince: (laugh) be so for real. She would be betting on Kelley having th ebest odds ot beat Keanu in blockbuster
Did she take she would take Ava down?
Intiailyl she said she would want to
has that thought changed
only when I said I didn't want it to be used at all. She said fine I"ll do whatever you want me to do
that doesn't even make sense fo rher game. If it was me, I would use it, I don't give a fuck. That's like if someone was to tell me and you adn AShley were up there. Fuck you adn fuck no. obviously me and Lauren are very different people. She can't decide if she wants to use the veto on you for 17 days. I'm sorry but her southern charm does not work on me Vince. It really doesn't
Vince: no
Morgan: Ever since she voted to evict me. Same thing with Kelley and Keanu. Those are my three biggest targets. Ava savd me
Vince: you have to let theat go. The game has changed
Morgan: We're all gonna go on the block nexg week and after. That's not an argumetn anymore
Vince: right, so we have to guarantee we have numbers
Morgan: you have to guarantee you have numbres. You sending AVa home ucks ??
Vince: but me sending Lauren home fucks my game
Morgan: I didn't say send her home ?? put her on the block
Vince: ?? but ?? how ??
Morgan: I'm telling you if she sits next to AVa, Lauren will probably go home
Vince: Yeah. THat's not what I Want to happen
Morgan: I know. Which is why if you put her up initially, th eveto will get used. Someone is gonna win it. The chancws of Keanu winning it. Kelley's not gonna use it on somebody else. If she does great
Vince: She jokes she would use it on Ava
Morgan: Even better. THere is a chance that if them three get picked, Keanu goes up and plays. HE told me he's not gonna use the veto
Vince: Do we trust him? The guy who's been talking shit about me?
Morgan: I don't know Vince. We don't know
Vince: I trust Lauren more than I trust Keanu
Morgan: then don't put her up. And hope that she's telling you the truth. Adn if she does and wins HOH next week, let's hope I don't go home. And if Ava or Kelley wins depending on who stays they're not gonna put up Lauren and she's gonna go to final three never touching th eblock. A girl who's indecisvie and had Adrian adn Will go home makes it to final three because nobody wants to touch her. I talked to AShley about that, and she said if she sees Lauren makes it to ?? without touching the block that is a huge lean with her getting a jury vote. I don't know what you want to do. I get really exhausted talking about someone who wanted me out this house, about saving and protecting her. It's really exhausting
Vince: I see your perspective
Morgan: that's like me sitting here and saying I Want to save and protect Kelley at all cost, knowing that she wants you out of htis house specifically. Adn the fact that I Would have to choose, between not upsetting you and keeping a girl that wants me out of this house? Who is your number two? It's one thing where it's Kelley, Keanu, fine. But your number two. Someone who is directly correlated with you, put me up on her block, and as far as I know, lied t omy face about wanting to put up Keanu, cause that girl cried when she aws gonna have ot do it. She lied to you by saying she wasn't gonna gun for the veot. THta's another lie. She's racked up multiple lies. And for some reason, those lies that she's told you still allows you to trust her. I really don' tknow what it is about her, but... I'm just really tired of talking about potentially saving someone that wanted me evicted from this house week 5.
Vince: But what if I put her up. Ava, Kelley, Lauren. Keanu wins veto. He uses it on Kellye. I'm forced to renom Ashley. Then what?
Morgan: I don't know Vince. Then if Lauren wins Blockbuster, AVa goes home. Or Ashley goes home. Because Kelley's gonna vote out Ashley and so is Lauren. And who knows what the fuck Keanu would do. And we lose a judge, and a judge goes home on your HOH
Vince: How can I convince Lauren to be okay with going up, without.. What compelling arguments can I pitch to her tomorrow morning?
Morgan: I don't know Vince because... I mean I'm not trying toi be, how can I phrase this? Any time I talk to you, and let's say we had a great converastion, you can see what we talked about. Whenever you talk to Lauren you go back on what we talked about. That's why I made that comment. Something about her with you and Zach had you so confirmed that she was best for your game. Even more than me
Vince: Not more than you
Morgan: I don't know Vince. Here's the thing. Lauren, Kelley, and Keanu. If those were your initial noms, let's say AVa won the veto, she wouldn't use it because she knows your nom would be Ashley. AVa does not want Kelley in this house. NEither do I
Ava doesn't want KElley?
mm mm
Vince: but they are working together
Morgan: I mean... I... I just know when... when Ashley... I don't know. To me that whole thing is fake. And I'm just gonna say that because when we were up here, Lauren was like ugh here comes Kelley. She was annoyed. I just don't understand that. If you're really working with people you're not going to be annoyed that people are coming up to speak to you on your HOH. All I know si when I Was in the backyard talking to AShley and AVa, Kelley told a lie. She said Adrian knew that Mickey had a power. And... that means taht Kelley knew that Mickey had the power. Btu if that was the truth, then she would've told RYlie on his HOH that Mickey had the power
Yes. Immediately
So, it's a lie. But when we were talking about the whol epower situation outside, and Ava was rolling her eyes sometimes when ashley was talking about Kelley. Ava wants Ashley in this game more than she wants Kelley in this game
I ebleive that
so in your intiial noms do not even include Ava, I don't think she'd use the veto know Ashley's the repalcement. but the problem is if one of them win veto, AVa's the replacement, and you have to hope it's not Kelley or Keanu, caus eif it is, let's say Lauren wins the veto. Kelley, Keanu, AVa, not a bad thin gbecause anyone sitting enx tto AVa is gonna go home. But if Keanu wins, not the worst scenario, but if Kelley wins Blockbuster, Lauren's probably going home. Cause Ashley is not gonna vote out Lauren over Ava. It's too early for both my and AShley's games for Ava to leave. Cause here's the hting I Was looking at the memory wall. If Ava leaves you have us two. You have a mental beast, which is Kelley. A physical beast, which is Keanu, and a mix of both, Lauren, and then you have Ashley. Ava is not going... or how baout this. Ava is going to have a harder time winning comeptitions than some of us. Do I think she can't win? No, I think she can win. But it's clearly much harder for her in physical and mental comps. Just based on rakc record. So, I know you want to keep LAuren because she awnts to take you to final two. I'm not stupid
I think she would yeah
and I lvoe htat fot oyu. And I would be in the jury house, because i Would be evicte because of her
It's just an extreme scenario
Morgan: No I'm sayingin general, she already voted to evict me. She will do it again and again until I leave this house. So you just have to figure out what is best for your game, and I will figure out based on your decision what I do for mine
Vince: Can tomorrow morning first thing, you, me, Ashley, and LAuren all talk in here. Adn convince her that she's okay to go on the block
I don't think that's a good idea
why
that shows you're working with AShley. She's gonna go running around tleling Ava, Kelley. That's not ag ood idea
you me Lauren?
she has not wanted to work with me all season. what is ?? gonna talk about
if we can convince her about going on the block
I don't understand how... this is a game Vince. She didn't care to convince that I Was okay going on her block. She shouls've put Keanu up. Kelleyu up
This is different. This is as if she was coming betwen Ava and me and putting me on the block
I jut don't understnad what that conversation is supposed to do. You just put me up and voted me out but I"ll vote fofor you to stay? What am I supposed to do?
Morgan: What would you be saying in this conversation so I understand what you're trying to get at
That if she goes on the block it's a safe play because
Morgan: who's she going on the block next to?
Ava and Kelley. I can't put her and Keanu on the block because htey'd both be mad at me
Morgan: Lauren's not gonna be mad at you. She can't afford it
I think she can
Morgan: She can't. One of her allies is gonna go home. Preferably Kelley. I deally Kelley. If Ava goes home. It's just gonna be very hard moving forward. BUt it's fine. IT's Big BRother. I'll be lucky if I can get to top 4
Stop
Morgan: I'm being realistic Vince
No you're not. You have just as good a chance as anyone else
Morgan: Anyway, moving fortward. So you put her up next to the girls. I mean you just have to decide. I understand about putting trust in Lauren vs Keanu. Obviously it's much safer to put your trust in Lauren. But I'm just tellin gyou, let's say she doesn't use that veto... this is the thing, you'r ebanking on her winning the veto
right, and if she doesn't?
Morgan: and if one of the other nominees does, she's going up on your block anyway. I'm telling you if I win the veto I'm taking Ava down
Vince: why?
Morgan: because Lauren stays no matter what next to Keanu and next to Kelley
Vince: then can we tell her that?
Morgan: but that's only one scenario, if Ava comes down
...
Morgan: Lauren's worst case scenario is if she sits next to Ava. Because I do not see a world where ashley votes out Ava. And to be honest with you, that woul dbe the hardest decision for me. You woul dput me in a really tough position. By asking me to vote to keep LAuren. Over Ava
They both put you on th eblock. One puts you next to me, one doesn't
Morgan: Ava hasnt touched me this season
not yet
Morgan: but Lauren has voted me out. Ava has kept me.
But we're not living in the past
Morgan:?? good for you
?? wouldn't you rather one of us not be put on the block
Morgan: w'ere gonna sit next to each other regardless after this week. Look at the math. Six people. THree on the block. Let's say Lauren's HOH and she puts up me Kelley Keanu, whoever else wins veto, yuo don't win, your ass is right next to me on her HOH. Thos eare just the numbers
how would I end up on her block?
Morgan: Six people, you have an HOH. THree nominees. Two veto players. Someone who is not on the block wins. Me, Kelley, Keanu. And doesn't use it, or sorry, and uses it to save somebody, you woul dhave to be the repalcement
Vince: that's a good point. THink that's next week already?
Morgan: yep
Vince: What if Ava, Kelley, Lauren are on the block, and Keanu wins and keeps noms the same. If Lauren wins blockbuster she's safe. If Kelley wins blockbuster, she goes home next to AVa
Morgan: Ashley would not keep Lauren, it doesn't make sense for her, and to be honest it doesn't make sense for me to keep Lauren over Ava. It doesn't
Vince: But if AVa Kelley Keanu were on the block. Keanu wins veto
Morgan: Lauren goes up and you're back in the same scenario. WHich why I feel like your real conversation needs to be with AVa. Lauren, Kelley, Keanu would be your intiial noms and you woul dask Ava, if you win the veto I know Ashley is close to you I Don't want to put her up on the blokc. I put Lauren up because I no no matter what she would go home sitting next to them. Ashley I don't know
Vince: but then I piss Keanu off for putting him up next to them
Morgan: He's pissed off regardless
Vince: Well he says he's not
Morgan: All I know is Keanu wants Lauren out of this house. So... IF Lauren is on that block next to Ava, LAuren is gonn ago home because Keanu is gsonna vote to evict her and Ashley will not vote to evict AVa cause it does not make sense for her game
Vince: This is so hard
Morgan: It's a game Vince. If you put up Kelley, Keanu, Ava. The girls are gonna be expecting Lauren to use the veto on them. And if you do, and Lauren does win, Ashley will go up on that block. And it's Ashley sitting next to Ava. Ashley goe shome. I just want you to do what's best for your game Vinny. I know it's annoying to hear that because everyone says it and blah blah blah, but at the end of the day you applied for Big BRother for 10 years, to finall ybe on this show. Obviously you have two people that are in your corner that would never put you up and never touch oyu, but unfortunately they'r eneemies because of what happened week 5. So, I don't know what you want to do but I do know that you tdecision, you know? It's just gonna... I don't know. Cause I"ll be honest with you, if I was HOH, I wouldn't be sad if Lauren went home. Cuse she wanted me out this house since week 5. And I almost went home week 5. I Was on the block next to Rylie
Vince: That was week 5?
Morgan: Yep
Vince: No that was week 6
Morgan: Whatever. WEek 5/6 whatever. All I know si she had a chance to actually work with us like she said she wanted to when Zach was still here and instead she chose not to and that was her choice. I really don't know liek what to tell you, what to say. I mean I obviously have my own feeling sbecause when you have somebody that is close to your numbre one that wants you out of the house and has said things and obviously has made you feel liek. Her'es the thing, she told me Will Ashley and you that she was gonna backdoor Keanu. BUt it's interesting that the narrative was that she awnted the noms to say the same
was she just saying that to other people?
Morgan: I don't know it's just tge fact it was being said
she doesn't want
Morgan: why was she ?? she literally cried
because she was scared
Morgan: she lied to you saying she wasn't gonna gun to win the veto. When you watch this back you're gonna watch how hard i busted myass
don't say this. She said she goes, does it comes back and waits by the buzzer
Morgan: well that makes me feel even ??
why? That's good. THat means she didn't want you gone
Morgan: THa't snot what it meant
It meant she wanted you to win it
Morgan: she wouldn't know what my time was Vince. Thta just makes me feel like I busted my ass and I got a pity veto
NO, that's not what it was
Morgan: yeah it was
no it's not
Morgan: if she stood by the buzzer for a while
I don't know if she actually did it or how long she stood there
Morgan: regardless. I was 30 seconds faster than her and if she ??
she didn't stay there for 30 seconds, maybe 5 or 6
Morgan: all I"m saying, for her to say that it's pretty disrespectful. I waited by the buzzer. THat's upposed to make me feel better? Show that you didn't want to win the veto?
Vince faceplants into th ebed
Vince: I don't think she meant it as an insult Morgan
Morgan: I don't know regardlwss. I dont know you guys' dynamic. Obviously she wants to take you to final two, love that for you. I don't have a deal with anyone in this house except for you
I don't have a final two
Morgan: you told me she asked you multiple times
no, I didn't say she asked me multiple times
Morgan: yeah she asked to go to final two
Vince: at one point. But Keanu has said that to me, Kelley, everyboty has said that to me. Do I believ ethat? No. I beleive Lauren more than them
Morgan: because that's what she wants to do which is why she's getting me out of this house Vince. SHe literally almost got me out if I didn't iwn this veto. That's why Will said I needed to win. He knew I was in trouble which is why he siad that. But, you're HOH now and you have a decision to make. So you have to just do what's best for you, and if that means Lauren doesn't touch the block then fine, don't put her up. I just don't see a world where she doesn't win the veto, knowing that sh'es going to meet with Ava, Kelley, and imagine her telling them sorry I promised Vince I Wasn't gonna use it. She makes two enemies herself. pone might come down, two might come down. Now she doesn't have anybody who isn't coming after her. I don't think she's gonna throw her game out. But maybe ?? I don't understand your guys ?? For me someone ?? protecting you at all cost for an HOH that's her number two or number one or whatever
Vince: Yeah. I don't know. I wanna say I trust her but. It'd be better if I Could just convince her that it'd be better for her to go on th eblock
Morgan: I just don' tsee he not using it. Let's say I was besties with Keanu. Let's say he won, and you and Ashley are gonna go up on the block. ANd he's gonna tell me I'm putting up Vince and AShley and let's say Ava and if you win veto you can' tuse it cause I want AShley or Vince gone. I'm gonna tell him what he wants to hear because my two allies, the only one sI have are on the block. I am not going to give a fuck what he has to say. My game dependson them coming off. Otherwise, I'm depending on a blockbuster, and I don't have ot choos ebetween two of them, and potentially losing another because i didn' tuse the veto. I don't know how AVa nad Kelley would fele but I know AVa's really smart. And for me... the perfect scenario was when Lauren used the veto on you. There's no way that you don't save someone from the block especiall ybecause that' sa big move. Using the veto to save someone else is a huge move in the game
Vince: Yeah. That's why I feel like I Would need her permission to put her up because that's like fucked of me
Morgan: You have to decide whether you're putting up Lauren or Keanu. If you really don't think Keanu would use the veto, then don't put him up. BUt if you don't think he will, then put him up. Or if you do think he will then put him up. Stand on business. Tell him you're tired of his shit. Draw the line. Keep that line drawn. And no more bullshit. And if he wins or somebody else wins and they come down and Lauren goes up you just have to hope she stays. I'll be hoenst with yu, if she's sitting next ot AVa I don't see her staying. It would be extremely hard for me to vote out Ava. Because Ava's better for my game than LAuren. Lauren has voted to evict me. She' sput me on th eblock. And I can beat Ava. I've beaten Lauren but I'ms aying AVa is easier for me to beat than Lauren. I"m just gonna be hoinest with you
Vince: Do you want the bed? I'll take the day bed?
Morgan: No I'm good
Vince: It's fresh sheets. I barely laid in it
Morgan: I'm good
Vince: You're sure
Morgan: Yep
Vince: I'm sorry I don't want it to seem like I"m not acknowledging you. I hear what you said. That's ultimately what it comes down to. Do I juts draw a line and put Keanu up knowing he's gonna put you me and Lauren up next week if he wins, or do I somehow convince Lauren to go up
Morgan: I mean, she did that to me last week. Where it's like ther'es a bigger mission. I need to backdoor Keanu. BLach blah blah. Okay. You can esesentially say the same thing and she'll understand because she expected me to understand. I know you don't want to put her up VInce. So if you reall ydon't want to then I can't force you. I can't
Vince: I know but i don't want you losing trust in me
Morgan: It's not that I'm losing trus tin you. It's like. I don't know
Vince: Also, look
Morgan: you actually physically want me to look?
Vince: Yeah. If I turn the lights off and you get dinged. You can go on top of sheets and there's a border of pillows. A giant dam that prevents our bodies from touching even between sheets. Just so you know. You can be on top and use that blanket
(Vince takes off his mic)
Vince: cause I worry I hit the lights and you're gonna get hit
Morgan: It's fine
(Vince gets up and turns off the lights)
Morgan: They saw ?? sleep up here
Vince: of course. ?? sleep up here every night. Shower an ? ? You can enjoy snacks with me every night
Morgan: Yeah. I'll probably styill shower downstairs. THank you for the offer. I might take it
Vince: Sorry you're afraid to even be near me. I'm not gonna be in ther ewith you
Morgan: No I understand. It's just kind of shitty
Vince: I know I'm trying to make jokes of it. I'm sorry
Morgan: It's fine
Morgan: Is there every a world where you don't put up AVa, ?? She's the renom?
Vince: I would consider it. I only have tomorrow morning. To decide. I just feel like
Morgan: I just wanna see if Ava would potentially not use the veto because Ashley would be in harm's way
Vince: She would be so torn. She loves Lauren
Morgan: I mean... yeah but she loves Ashley
Vince: True
Morgan: I can try to find out from Ashley but. Cause that's the only solution that might make sense. BEcause all three of them would have to use the veto on themseves. And Ava would be in a really tough spot to use it knowing ashley would be the replacement. ANd Ava probably wouldn't use it knowin gLauren wouldn't go home
Vince: yeah
Morgan: To me, that's what I Was gonna do. if you want my honest noms
Vince: Then I, well I guess I still piss off Keanu either way. BUt if he wins then...
Morgan: Yeah the danger is Lauren and Ava being on the block together, but wouldn't you rather give Lauren the chance to fight for her life than backdoor her?
Vince: Yeah. Yeah. Definiteely
Morgan: and I feel like it makes sense to put Keanu up front anyway because you can just tell him. Our games haven't been aligning for quite some time and I keep hearing shit and I'm tired of it. So. I mean you can make a whole speech. CAuse lowkey those were gonna be my three noms. I wasn't gonna touch AVa, uhnless I had to
Yeah
Morgan: and to be honest th eonly thing Ava has "done to you" is put you on her block
I know sh ewouldn't want me to stay
Morgan: You don't know. You haven't talked to her
I ahve a pretty good idea. Just looka th er relationships with everyone else
Morgan: She doesn't have a strong relationship with me
Stronger than me
Morgan: Yeah but that's your responsibility to fix that. It's like me and Keanu, we don't have a s trong relationship. The fuck? That might be your saving grace. Ava wuold know she would be the reaplcement if it's used. But if you talk to her like, you could even say Morgan's one request was tyo make sure Ashley wasn't in danger. I don't know. You could make up something. I was talking to Morgan, obviously our games matter to each other. Sh edidn't want you going up initially, and she was hoping AShley would be safe, I don't know. Something liek that. BEcause our three games do affect each other. Mine maybe not as much but you coudl swing it that way. and you could also be like AShley really isn't a target for me right now. THere's bigger fish to fry and I know Lauren would stay sitting nex to tboth of them. I don't know. It's an angle
Vince: Good pitch
Morgan: Because I really don't think she would use it, because, Ashey would be in the way, she wouldn't go up in replacment, and even if she did, hopefully, it's not, with Lauren sitting next to her. I feel like that's the safest way, for Lauren to be safe. Is to not put up Ava intiailly. Cause at this point when you talk to AVa you could be li.ke you put me up I put you up. As far as I'm concerned we're even right now
yeah
Morgan: like i really respected will just liek you did. I don't know if ther'es a connection theere and you want to talk abotu WIll in general cause she loves Will. But you can say that you put up Lauren nex tot Keanu and Kelley cuase you feel like, you wanted to put up people that woul dhave ht best chance at beating Keanu and you weren't gonna put me in harm's way. ANd as fucked up as it is, she's gonn aunderstand that. THis is how I know that she cares a lot baout AShley. On the manical maze thing, apparently she was crying becaue she didn't want Will or AShley to go home
yeah that was one of the people sh ewas crying to. SHe cried direclty to me when I Was picking next. I was like no you're good
Morgan: So I think if you'r esomehow to Ava, if she's the renom, if someone wins that veto she knows she's going up but if there' sa chance she wins or I win the veto I'm not using the veto. I don't know. It genuinely might be an angle that you have. ANd maybe it might actually have her go for someone. I'm nto really sure. It's just a thought. That was jut kinda what i Was intiially. Iw asn't gonna tell you what I Was gonna do because I wanted you to do what you wanna do but that is what I would do. Cause at first I Was thinking this morning I would put the girl sup but I don't trust Keanu
I don't either
Morgan: and I would much rather just take it to the chin and have Keanu full sending me knowing Keanu is too and Lauren is too so fuck it, all yall can battle agains teach other and fight for your own life. IN your case, Lauren wouldn't go homeif th enoms stay the same. ANd here's the thing do change, I'm just saying, the worst case scenario is Ava Lauren
Yeah
Morgan: but it's worth a risk
which can be the case if Keanu wins the veto
Morgan: Yeah and Kelley wins blockbuster. But Lauren
Feeds cut
Vince turns on the lights
Vince: It's the same risk and outcome if I were to put
if you were to interchange Ava nad Keanu
yes. Because one way or another Lauren coul dbe sitting nextto Ava
Morgan: mhm. But I"m saying, I just feel like talking to Ava and saying how you want Lauren to be safe and you don't want to have to put herup on the block, but she will be your renom, right?
right
Morgan: and if you were just like look Ava, these are who I'm thinking of for the noms. You'r eprobably shocked because oyu probably thought I was putting you up. THe reason I'm putting up ?? and ?? OBviously I'm not putting up Morgan. But Lauren has the best chance to beat Kelley and Keanu in a mental and physicla comp. BEcause she's the only one who's beaten both in both. She's not the only one but ?? So, with that said, I know that perceptually you're extrmeely close to Lauren and Kelley
oh, yeah
Morgan: this is me saying to Ava. And to be honest, not even perceptually, I know you're extremely close to Lauren adn Kelley. I know the three of you are working together. You cna exchange that information if you want. She's not gonna be like how do you know that? It doesn' ttake a rocket scientist. bOth of them spent the night in her HOH. So you could be like this i show I'm feeling, I'm putting up Lauren ebcause I need her to comepte against Kelley and Keanu in hopes that Kelley or Keanu go home. Id ont'w ant tto put you up as a renom but you would be the renom. My question to you is if you were to win the veto, would you consider not using the veto, because I Frankly don't want to put up Ashley. Her going home on my HOH makes no sense for my game and rankly I don't think it's something th ejuryors would be moved by
Vince: The only problem with that is, we kind of talked baout it earlier, Ava doesn' thave a great vchance of wining anything. Keanu does, he wins
Morgan: Ava goes up
and Lauren still ends up potentially sitting next to Ava after th eblockbuster
Morgan: yeah, but it's a potential for her either way, evne if she doesn't touch th eblock
I think my best bet is to convince Lauren that she can go up on the block with Ava, Kelley, Lauren, and I want Lauren to compete, take hersel foff the block and replace her with Keanu
Morgan: do you think that' sthe best decision for your game?
Yes. Otherwise she's in a tougher position if I don't put her up. She potenitally can't compete in veto
Morgan: she has a very high chance though. Well if you get picked, are you picking me? I wasn't sure if you'd pick Lauren
Vince: no I would want to pick you
Morgan: okay so you pick me. Ava would probably pick ?? Kelley would pick Lauren. So she has a very high chance of getting picked. She has a 50% chance of playing in the veto
Yes
Morgan: just telling you her not touching tha tblock is real scary
I need to find a way to convince her
Morgan: here's the thing, you don't have ot conveince her of anything. You're th ehOH
Yeah but
Morgan: Convince isn't the right word. You have to find a way to, if you don't want to put uP Keanu
I"d put him up as a renom
Morgan: Yeah. Do you think he uses the veto on Kelley?
I'm worried about it yes
Morgan: yeah but do you think he will?
I think there is a 60% chance he does
Morgan: so if you think it's over 50, you might consider doing Lauren, Kelley, Keanu
No, cause that defeats t he purpose. It's Lauren or Keanu
Morgan: so if you do Ava, Kelley, Keanu, I don't know. I don' tknodog. I feel liek Lauren not touching th eblock after, what are we on the start of 10 weeks?
Vince: this is week 10
Morgan: her not touching th eblock in 10 weeks if fucking insane
Vince: yeah it is pretty crazy
Morgan: two months
Vince: two and a half
Morgan: I don't know. Me personally. I know Ashley and I were talking earlier, that if we were in jury. A compellin gargument is that he didn't touch the block for 10 weeks. That's already an insane arguemnt. You saw it week 4. Keanu saw it week 2. Keley saw it week 1. AShley saw it week 1. She is th eonly person in this house that has not seen the block. You wanna talk about a fuckin compellin gass argument? Rachel never saw it either. adn she was a Big BRothe rlegend. So that's gonna hit with Rachel. IT may or may not. Personally I Don't see Rachel ever voting fo rLauren
Vince: I don't either
Morgan: but if Lauren ?? that block ?? win more comps, she's gonna be liek damn you didn't even see the blocks for 10 weeks? potenatially 11 if you don't put her up. People are gonna say Lauren doesn't have a social game, but the whole point of the block. People put you up if you're a threat sociall or physically. The fact she didn't touch the block for either ?? conversation ?? she's has a great social game and great competitor. She can make that argument because she didn't touch the block for that long
Vince: Yeah. I need to talk to her in the morning
Morgan comes over and gives Vince a hug
Vince: Can you hit the light switch?
(Morgan turns off the light)
Morgan: No passionate hugs anymore
Vince: My God. You're gonna be acting so different around me now. Avoiding me
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Vince is trying to convince Lauren about going on the block
Lauren says it doesn't make sense. When has anyone ever put their final two on the block?
Lauren cries and says she feels like she's sacrificing everything
Vince says he's not doing it. He's sorry
Lauren says it's okay. She thinks another thing is if he gets her out, he's gonna lose respect
Vince says if he doesn't put her up, he's gonna lose respect of Morgan and AShley
why?
because they're so sick and tired of him picking ehr over everyting
but they're not a consideration. He's keeping all of them by keeping her safe
if she doesn' tlpay and veto is used, he's force do tput Ashley up
so he'd rather have AShley's trust than hers
no but he'd like her respect and jury vote. THat's why it was a win win. If Lauren plays ?? it's not like he burns anyone else. He's had to nominate 12 people thsi season. He's lost so much respect from so many people, that' shwy he hoped he could pitch this to her. She'd gain allies, and it'd diminish her threat level. they'd be guaranteed to go at least final five, probably final four. THat's the only reason. It helps all of them tremendously
but it still could
Vince says it can't help him at all> it doesn't help or hurt her. It' sneutral for her and hurts him
Lauren says but imagine what happens if Keanu wins tomorrow, then she's still on the block
Vince says yeah, that's fine
and then she doesn't win blockbuster
th=en she still has votes
then the same thing could happen to Ashley or Ava. Wouldn't he rather ?? than risk losing her?
He can't risk losin gher. That's why h eknows ?? Morgan and Ashley, thos eare the only two votes he needs. And then he keeps her no matter what
people are gonna thinks he looks so stupid, evne if she explains that ?? they're gonna say oh wow you had her so far in your pocket she saved you so many times, you put her on the block adn he still honored the final two
but there's a reason behidn it. It's not me just burning you to be like I don't care thanks for nothing
I know btu at the end of the day i just thin kthat the only wayguaranteeing that both of your number ones are here is to not put us on the block
righ tbut putting you up is the only way my two nimber ones work together finally. Somebody has to have a creasefire ventually. You're putting her on the block she's putting you on the block. how do I stop that?
next week, only one person won't go up. I won't put you up. Morgan's not gonna put you up
But Keanu would put both of us up
Lauren: Do you really think you haven't burned Keanu enough just by threatening? I think any case no matter waht, I've betrayed his trust. You've betrayed his trust. ?? make a deal saying ??
I'm just trying to reduce the odds of that happening
Lauren: I know. That's what I was trying to do last week. And then he ended up winning BLockbuster anyways. And now wants m eout and ?? in this game. So...
YOu don't see how that could help your game by competing and guaranteeing your safety with two people that say she's bold. She's willing to throw away that pefect streak even though she's been on the lcok anyways
I think it's gona be seen as stupid
to who?
For me
that wouldn't make ?? stupid. That would ?? bold. Cause we're tying to guarantee ?? the only way that happens i by makign sure we all compete. And two otes that won't burn me
so many things can happen ?? every single week
that's cuse the numbers were crazy. All you need is two and I guarantee those two. Cause those two are off ht eblock in this scenario and those wto will not do tha tto me. There's no way. And they trust you because you trusted them. And all of a suddenyou have brand new allies
I feel like everything I say has no gravity whatsoever
to me?
in general. I fele like veery time I say something people are like meh
that's not true. I'm just trying to explain to you why it helps both of us
I go up, in any scenario next week no matter what
but you have more numbers if you gain allies this week, and everyone will go up around you, and we guarantee our way to final four and we??
?? trust with Morgan and Ashley this weke wihtout being on the block
I don't see how that happens
what if i dwin veto and I don't use it
they'll just say she ?? Vine
I hate that i have to do anything that I have to bow down and sacrifive. Zach left and Rylie left and Katherine lef.t I finally feel liek I'm saf ea little bit. ?? I came so close ?? I feel like I"m finally in appoosition trying to mvoe myself back up and by going up again, I'm just, I think ti's bad for both of us
I think it helps both of us. I was hoping you would se ethat
I look stupid
no
there's a chanc ei Go home and yuo lose reespect with Ava nda Kelley
I fele the compelte opposite. YOu're bold and you gain allies. IF Kelley goes home this weke you lose one. But if Kelley goes home and you'r eon the block you gain two more. So it's atrade two for one and more people who would keep you off the block and keep you in thsi game. I'm trying to show them. Everyone is so skeptical of everyone. But we trust each other. I trust them. I trust Morgan. Morgan knows Ashley wouldn't put her. So assume associationo. It's by far the best game move, straitegically. Fo rboth of us. But I know it's scary cause that puts you on th eblock in generla. I odn't even think it puts you at risk. I think it puts you on the block at first. But they're guaranteeing you that you stay no matter what
I just don't understand why it can' be Kelley adn Ava and Keanu. They alreayd know they're going up. If I go up I feel like peopel are gonna liook at it like what the fuck? Looka t all this stuff she's done, adn Vince put her on the block
I think they would understand it ?? competing
And they would lose you respect and looka t me stupid for all the stuff I've done that you still put me on the block
NO you wouldn't loo sktupid. It would be strategic because we're playing against them and we're guarnateeing. WE thought last week and everyone was playing
Vince I"ll do anything you want me to do with the veto
if you get picked to play
I';m ont even that good of a competitor
you're amazing
Mrogan's won two
yes. You're all good
?? won four
that's why, we're all very strong. That's why if we all work together, that's almost a guaranteed final four
it jst doesn't make sene
do you not trust them?
if I'm on the block I have a chance of going home.m If I'm not gon the block then I'm here next week and we have a chanc eof continuing together. That's how I see it
?? trying to gain allies and doing everything I can to get you two to work together. If we're separate we're screwed. WE're so close to the end, thsi is increasing chances to get there
I would love to work with Morgan, but if me going up on th eblock and potentially going home is the way to do it, that's not a risk I'm willin gto take
they would od that for me. They would not send you home no matter who you're up against. They would never do that. In the past, if people say votes, I was relying on five. THis is two. They cannot. They can't flip. They couldn't do that. Cause then they lose all the jury votes. At least four. THey lose the gam in that case in my opinion
They gain respect. Because they take out the feamle version of Keanu
that's such bullshit. That's him trying to narrate to make you a target
clearly I'm ?? a target
it's that you made it ?? on aseason where three people go up every week. That's the only threat level. You can downplay every move you'v ever done. I know Kelleys' the type to volunteer to go up and she's been reckless about it, but I jsut see strategy behind this. People who trust me I can get you on the same page finally. IF you lose one of your allies you're gaining multiple
I just don't understand
you're gaining multiple
me going on the block is gaining allies
yes
that doesnt' make sense
it diminsihes your threat level it showcases you're willing to rtust
I'm gona go on the block next week no amtter what. And I know I will. And I know I will
maybe not. You don't know. If Keanu goes home this week, if you win you're safe. Ava wins you're safe. Kelley wins you're safe. That's half the house you're safe already. If Keanu goes. ANd if you're on the block and they're a guarantee to keep you're safe. Morgan you're safe, AShley you're safe. Jus tbeause you traded this week for going on the block
There's no way in hell that Morgn and AShley would not put me on the block next eek. There's no way
I don't know. I ac'nt guarantee that. All I can guarantee is that you're here next week
not if I'm on the block
you are beause i Have two guaranteed votes. Veto and blockbuster adn two guaratneed votes. No matter waht
I'm not gonn abe convinced I don't think., otherwise
you don't see at all? It's the best play by far. I could be throwing my game away
I could've thrown my game away by using the veto on you
that is true
the most powerful person in the house said if you use it I"m coming for you, and I used it
this just puts us both in worse positions. It seems backwards but it pays off so so well
if I had to guess, ?? HOH competition ?? next weke it's gonna be physical or endurance
yes
which means, I have ot be here to win it
you're guaranteed to be here
no I'm not
you are. You have three guarantees. Veto with four playing to save you. Blocklbuster. And votes to save you. Best case scenario can happen and it's winning veto. AS much as I try to prepare for worst case, wy don't we think about best case?
Best case is I don't go on the block and I win veto
that is best case yes. But we at least ensure that you compete in the veto. Then you're guaranteed to have a chance for best case scenario
I think it's way too big of a risk
ITs guraranteed. It helps us so much
Lauren: Nothing is guaranteed
Vince: With this little numbers there is. There's guarantees with this few numbers. It's such a good move
Morgan was ranting to Ashley about how much she wanted me out after I put her
(Feeds switch)
She's not going up in any case so she doesn't really have a say. But...
Lauren It makes sense. It's such a good move. You're guaranteed safe. ANd i Know you have to trus tin people but you're guaranteed
I'm not
You are. If you go up, and I prove to you that what I said happens happens, will you fele good about that? Or will the trust already be broken because you said you didn't think it's a good move. I feel like it's almost hte only play I have at this point. To further our games. It pay soff
I could've done the same thing last week. And I didn't
But it was different scenarios because I have different allies you're gaining
Ashley a guarantee ally?
Yes, because she's with Morgan, Morgan is with me and those two are guaranteed keeping you. It's so good. It's bold but it's so good. It covers every single crack. We're playing bold. We're coming down to the wire. You wouldn't go home
You don't know that Vince
I guarantee it. They wouldn't burn me. Not this late. There's now ay. I don't care how much it pains them
Imagine if I wen thome this week. Your enumber one ally in this game
You won't. That's why I'm so confident. THere's no way
The only way to guarantee that is if I'm not on th eblock
but that screws up our game because it puts us in a ?? position
why thugh? I don't get it. You have your people I have my people
there's greater chance we go on the block together
you have two of my allies on teh block. One of them is gonna go home. That means I only have two left
that's why you can gain two righ tnow
why can't I gain two by winning veto and not using it? Then mayeb I kind of sort of gain other allies and fuck up the ones I have. So this week is a lose lose situation for me again
I don't want every time I win to be a lose lose for you. But that's what i"m trying to get allies on the same page so it could be wins for us. THer'es no more crucial time than right. I dont' want you putting my allie sup. I don't want to put your allies up
so you put me up?
No, if that's what it takes to set us up for success
I'm not dumb. I see what you'r esaying but all I can say is I took a risk by guaranteeing your safety
You did. TH eonly difference is i"m trying to gain allies nad make sure we'r eon the same page so we don't have to hurt each others' games. That's why I feel so passionate baout it is because wer'e helpin geach other
But I don't understand why we still cant work together if you put Ava, Kelley, and Keau up. Then me you AShley and Morgan can have a conversdation togetehr
they'll say you got lucky that you played and it was chance
why do you I have to cprove myself to them?
because you put both of them on the block
what else could I do?
I don't know what you could've done to be honest. But that's why it's best to pivot with these people. I ?? put Ashley up my last one. Did I? No I didn't. I could have. THat's the only reason she' willin to work wiht me righ tnow. She never liked me in thsi game. But if me you Morgan and her are on the same page, and you still ahve AVa or Kelley if Kelley stays. Then it's the entire house agains tKeanu and we don't implode on each oterh
If you put me up, Ava and/or Kelley will be gunning for you
Not if they know that you're on board with it
They're gonna think I'm an idiot. They're gonna be like wow. ALl this and you're still, why the hell are you still
I know cause it won't make sense
They're already confused
It won't make sense to them
Lauren: and then... It just would be really bad. And then Keanu gets his way
No he doesn't get his way
yeah he does. If I go up he gets his way
HIm getting his way is Morgan is still gonna put you up. But if you're on the same page right now, she doesnt
imagine if you put me up, Keanu wins veto, he's gonna be like fuck yeah I took over his whole HOH
He didn't get me to do jack shit. I don't care what he paints it as
That's exactly whatt's gonna happen
Is there any chance you're okay with it? If we just do it
(shakes head)
Nto at all
(shakes head)
You don't see the value in gaining allies. Wouldn't you want less people to target you?
They're gonna target me anyway
NO they're not
yes they are
maybe putting you on the block but not getting you out. Sometimes reducing your game, strengthens your game in the long haul. Then you can use that in the final two. Not being the target is a good thing. Being on the block and willing to play bold shows you're not the worst threat in the house
I've never even had a game conversation with Morgan and Ashley. How am I supposed to rely on their vote
Vince: because ?? connections
Lauren: The only things I've heard game wise about them is Ashley telling me all the shit talking Morgan did about me, last week
Vince: I don't know why she's running her fucking move
Lauren: (shakes head) (sigh)
Vicne: So no for sure
(shakes head)
You don't see the value. You at least see my poisn right?
I do yes
You see what I"m trying to do? I'm trying ?? for both of us
but why can't we do that with Kelley and Ava and Keanu on the block
We can try but ?? if that's a chance i"llt ake what I can. But this is the only way to guarantee it
(laugh) it's not guaranteeing anything. It's guaranteeing that Keanu gets his way
NO it doesn' tbecause he stays
I break my streak. I look like an idiot because the person I saved a million times that I"m okay with after he sent my allies home put me on the block. And I look like a stupid idiot
no youd never look like a stupid idiot (laugh)
I do. They'd be like what the fuck. I think everyone would think that. Even America would think that. They'd be lik ehuh, no final two has ever put the other on th eblock in final six
that's why I thought I Was being bold and strategic. I thought I Was being calculated with it
that's hwy you can't rely on other people. In this game. Especially when people are willing to do anything to get to the end. I know you think they wouldn't turn on you and maybe they wouldn't
they wouldn't
Lauren: but that's not a risk I was willing to take last week. That's all I"ll say. Could've been a lot easier of a week
Vince: Okay. WEll I'm not gonna do it then. I was just feeling ready to fucking go to way
We can still go to war
I will never do anything to make you look stupid. I know I've hurt your game already. If you think it'll make you loo stupid, I'm not gonna do that to you. I just wanted you ?? to want to gain allies
I do want to I do want to. Just not by going up on th eblock and risking my entire game. AFter all these week.s THat's just how I see it. Cause imagine if it was the other way around. If it was a situation where oh if you volunteer to go on the block AVa and Kelley would definitely save you
I would be so skeptical
Right. At least Ava adn kelley are people I've been close iwth for a while. Ashley just flocked to you because all her people left. THat's howI see it. When I get picked to play veto tomorrow I will gun for it. I have a very good chance
But you never know
I'd rather risk me not being picked to play than me going home this week
No I don't want to risk you going home. I need you in this game. I literally need you in this game
I know
Vince: You and Morgan are all I have. THat's why I thought doing this would be gaining for all of us. That's why I ahve you and Morgan but if we can get Ashley too because she's easy to beat at the end, then it's four of us working together
Lauren: We can still have that conversation. I'm still willing to
Vince: They're still gonna view you as th ebiggest threat because you haven't been on the block
Lauren: I'm going on the block enxt week
Vince: Everyone says you're a favorite to win
Lauren: That's not true. I've had two failures of an HOH. That's what I think. I'm sorry that it's difficult
Vince: I'm just worried I'm throwing my game away by not being able to get you guys on the same page. This was kind of my last ditch effort
Lauren: I told them I was gonna use the veto on them last weke. Jus tbecause I didn't doesn't mean I wasn't going to. I can have that conversation with them. I don't know what els ei can do. Do you really htink they would volunteer to go on the block to gain more allies?
Vince: No. I don't think they would
So why do I have to do that to gain their trust for one more week?
I don't know. It's just the situation Ig uess. Or the cirucmstances
Lauren:You have three people that know they're goin gon the block. Do that, and we'll figure it out
Vince: Alright
Lauren: That's what I think. Do you reall yhtink they're gonna be upset with you?
Vince: Yeah. Very
Lauren: cause you didn't put me on the block?
Vince: Yeah. Very
Lauren: that makes zero fucking sense
Vince: I know. All I do is upset people in this game
Lauren: Ava and Kelley were not gonna be upset with me if I Didn't put you on the block
Vince: I know. BUt it's the reality I have so I have to deal with it. I have nobody else. So I'm probably gonna do the nomination ceremony and go sit in my HOH by myself cause they'r enot gonna talk to me. It was the only way to position ourselves as best as possible
Lauren:I don't understand why. Do you realize they're willing to lose you as an ally because you won't put me your number one ally on the block. Do you realize how ass backwards that is?
Vince: say that again? Sorry
Lauren: I was
Vince: They don't know that you're my number one. That' swhy it doesn't make sense to them. Which is a benefit for us but that's what's hurting me right now. Because they're going to be livid at me. Everyone is pretty much. Everyone except you pretty much
And Kelley adn AVa
Vince: well tey're gonna be mad at me cause they're on the block. Ashley and Morgan are mad at me cause we weren't willin gto trust them and have a plan in place, and people get so offended when people don't trust them here
Lauren: How could I? Do you know what I mean? ANd what are they gonna do if you don't pu tme on the block? They gonna turn their backs on you and just ?? too?
No they're talking about jury votes. I'm gonna lose all the jury vote respect. CAuse Rachle's already mad at me for picking you over Morgan and that's th ereason she went home. Will is upset because I evicted him. And if I put you up then Rachel woul dbe like oh he's not blindly loyal to her. He' splaying strategically. Lauren's not scared. She was willing to go to go to war with the behemoth? THey'r eplaying the game. Not playing scared
It's not blind loyalty though
that's their perception
but if we do make it to final two and we explain
Vince: we need to get there first. Lauren I'm not gonna do it it without your persmission
I know
and i"m sorry for annoying you ?? but this is th eonly way. It's the only way ?? jury votes. It's the only way ?? respect. It's the only way I get you guys to work together. If I don't do it I could potentially go home next week and I'm sitting next to you and Morgan
I could potentially og home this week
you can't. ?? the numbers. You only need two. If it was a ?? and I needed to guarantee it, then that would be harder and more skeptical. Btu if it's just these two, that's it. OH no Lauren doesn't have a perfect streak, she's not a top threat anymore. Oh and she's willing to trust Morgan
I don't understand how that means much
THey're upset with it
I'm gonna go up nex week
Maybe unless you win or unless Ava wins or Kelley wins. Then you could make it without ever going on the block. That's what CHelsie did last season. It's them viewing you as levelin gthe playing field. I'm gonna compete and trust you guys
but why cna't i gain their trust any other way. Than me risking my entire game?
Ther'es no other way
IF I go home, then all that for what? Nothing
YOu don't get evicted wthis week
Yo don't know that for sure
I do. With them two, they would not do that to me. No way. And that's ?? there's four people that could win veto for you. Kelley could use it on you. I'm gonna be in hot water if we don't do it. BUt I know you're done taht and you've been in hot water for me
I don't udnertstand why. It's so stupid
I know, but it's the only way to gain trust. It's the only way. And it feels risky cause nobody wants to go up there but, but if it's guaranteed to pay off that's the only reason I'm considering it. And that's the only reason I'm talking to you about it. I would never do it behind your back
Is it because you ??
That's a small part. But the main thing is making sure you gain allies in Mrogan and Ashley
You're still gonna have MOrgan and Ashley
I lose them because I"m gonna have to use AShley as a renom
there's no way
she already doesn't trust me because I'm picking you first. She cries every single time we talk about it. It's like a balancing act i"m trying to do to prove to you both I want you both here, and I want you to work together.
?? guaranteeing that we are both here is if we are not on the block this week
that's true but that's also the only way ?? and you're gunning after each other
why
??
?? go up on the block this week?
yeah but if it's AVa we make sure she's safe. Unless you're sitting next to her then you're safe. But you still have a four person group that insulates and protects you. No alliance has semeed to work this season. Btu if there's a rgoup that lokos around and sees who ?? are, that's incredible. There's no better time than righ tnow. This decision is gonna change the whole outlook okf the rest of our games. It's gonn achange the entire direciton. IN good ways or bad ways. And I'm trying to make it good ways. And it's hard for you to see the trust but they're going to gaurantee your safet. And we're going to guarantee you play in veto and one of us wins and one of the targets goes home. I can' miss this week. That's the biggest thing. I cannot miss. By putting AShley up is a miss
Putting me up is a miss
No it's a risk but it's a calculated risk. it guarantees allies and safety and buying favor with people who ?? haven't previously worked with. If I'm willin gto work with Ashley a person I ??
All I can say is every pawn has gone home ??
I'm not risking it
Somebody who ??
Think of it this way. We risk guaranteeing ourselves to final four, or I risk going home nexgt week sitting next to my friends
Evne if you ?? Keanu will still put me you and Morgan up next week
He might not put me
He's still gonna put you up. He has a deal with AShley. He's not gonna put her up. And he and Ava are good. It's gonna be me and Morgan no matter waht
well then we deal with that when it happens. But at least if that happens we have more people on our side. It's such a good play
(shakes head) No
I hate having to do damage control. I'm gonna go home on Thursday
No you're not
If you don't win I am. If you or Morgan don't win I am. Because I don't have anybody
Wouldn't it be the same situation anyways?
No because if Morgan wins then you don't go home. If Ashley wins you don't go home. If Kelley or AVa win you don't
Whatever you do this week, isn't it the sam situation enxt week. Only one person does not go up
Almost. But we have more numbres to dictate who goes hom eno matter who's on the block. That's the difference. It's safeguarding. You'r eprotected by our girls and the other girls now. And whoever win swe sway this way now. This other ?? wins then we sway this way
In that case, if I'm trying to make deal swiht Ashley and Morgan and I gain their trust whatever, me do whatever, and I get in as ituation where I have to choose between them and I betray their trust after I gained it I have guaranteed lost two jury votes
Vince: You don't have to choos ebecause whoever wins you go with that side. And then you have the power to dictate what happens
Lauren: I don't trust that. I don't trust it. You have to do whatever you have to do but the only way me and Mrogn are guaranteed safe this week is if we don't go on the block and I could've taken the easy way out to put you up and I didn't
but the only way to guarantee to both stay and not work together is if you do go up
I'd be upset. I would. Do ytou really think that Mrogan woudl do the same thing? To volunteer, trust that I would keep her in? Hell no. If you were the sole vote to evict. Sure. I don't want to have ot rely on those people
I know it's scary, but you don't trust. It's not trusting they won't do it to you. It's trusting they won't do it to me
THey would know you don't have anybody else, and you'd have to get over it and work with them. To be hoenst with you
Yeah that's a good point. I"m just trying desperately to get you guys on the same page. I don't want her coming after you. SHe wins she puts you on the block
She does that anyway. She wins HOH next week, she puts me on the blcok. That's all she can do. And win veto
I feel like you'r ein such a goo dposition in the game
I'm not. My number one's about to put me on the block
Vince: I'm not about to. We're just talki ngabout the scenario because I want you guys on the same page
You're not gonna lose Morgan, AShley
They're going to be very very mad at me
Why does everyone hat eme and want me to go?
Don't say that it's not hate. IT's just wanting to reduce your guarantee to win the game
No it's not. Just because I've not been on the block?
Tha'ts an insane feat. Everyone's been on liek five times and you haven't been up once
it's because I Don't talk
you can spin it as a great social game. There's been liek 58 nominations this season. And you didn't get nominated once out of like 50 something?
My mind hasn't changed from the beginning of this conversation
Vince: Dammit
Lauren: I know. I'm sorry. I know it's really hard. But that's just how I feel. The same thing happened to Leah last year. She wasn't on the block at all and then she got put up adn she went home
But it's totally different
No
Vince: Is there any way you'd think about it?
Lauren: No
Vince: If I did it and it worked out woudl you hodl it against me? Would it break everything we have?
(nod)
It would? Would it actually or are you just saying that cause you're giving me a hard time. If I did it and it worked out flawlessly
No. Because even the risk of me going home. Even the risk. Like is not worth whatever the hell could've happened if I gain these people that I already know taht want me out. It's not gonna gain
I think it does
Lauren:I don't think it does. It's easy for you to say
I know
cause you ??
I do with my entire life in the game. Tha's why I'm trying to get ?? on the same page. Would you forgive me? Would you hodl it against me acutally? Or would you bail on m elike no
I'd be really really upset
Would you forgive me though?
Why? I could've put you up last week. I didn't have to use the veto on you adn I did
Right. Just was my last ditch effort. I really htought it would pay off . Taht's all
IT still is gonna pay off
It's not gonna pay off fo rme. I'm putting myself in a very bad position. ANd I know you've hurt your game for me, and I'll never forget it. But that worked out because there's so much game left. RIgh tnow I'm hurting my game so bad that I'm ?? good chance to go home in the nex couple weeks
I don't think that's the case
I do. I don't have anyone LAuren. I have you and Morgan. That's all
I have you, AVa, and Kelley. That's one more person and one of them's probably going home. So we're even
But I Don't wanna be even. I wanna have a group
So then I betray Ava or Kelley ?? these two new allies that ?? Ashley told you to put me up week 1. AShley's been liek this with Rachel. Rahcel wanted me out as well. I know that AShley wants me out
Vince: but now her number one is Morgan. I feel like I"m throwing my game away this week. I feel like I Shouldn't have won. I should've let KElley win and win the block myself. Cause I Would've been in a better position
guaranteed to ?? the vveto. Guaranted to play. Adn we guarantee your safety
Lauren: (Sigh)
Vince: Let's do it. Let's do it. It's bold. Come on let's do it
No
Let's do it. It's gonna pay off
No it's not
Okay, let's do it
No (laugh)
Yeah. It's gonna work. It's gonna work. Okay it's gonna work. Let's do it
NO it's not. Shut up
It's gonna work
No
It's gonna work
Lauren: No
I feel like I'm throwing my game away if we don't get on teh same page and do this. You're goo dno matter waht
NO I'm not
this is 0 risk for you. This is 100% risk for me
this is 100% risk for me if my ass is on the block
NO but you're guaranteed safe no matter what
No I'm not
Yes
NO I'm not
(They continue talking)
.. everybody except you and MOrgan wants me out
everybody except you Ava and Kelley want me out
that's half the house
that's one more person
Morgan please please please. IT's gonna pay off. THis is the move. We have to do it
I take myself off the block and you put up Ava?
yes and she stays no matter what
That guarantees that one of my. So I'm guaranteed to go n the block and also guarantee one of my allies goes home
NO Keanu stays on the block
That could happen anyways
It could
it will
but we have to will. No matter what that's gonna be the risk
okay then why don't you put up Ashley
AShley's a number for me now
But I'm your number one
I know. That's why if I can turn one into four
YOu can't
Vince: Yes. We can. It's by far the best game move for me. I'm telling you. And it's incredibly best for you
Vince: Just like you thought. Your second HOH Katherine was the best game move, and then she went home. My best friend
I know
Lauren: Sorry. I don't mean to be ugly but
Vince: No I know, you're not. But this is gonna work
It's not guaranteed
It is guaranteed to work. IT has a 99.99 chance of success
If you do this
yes
Keanu wins veto. You put Ava up. Kelley wins blockbuster
that's worst case scenario
It's me and Ava up there. Ava my number two in this game. Goes home. Or I go home on your HOH
You're not going to. That would be worst case scenario. Btu that's the same as last week. Morgan could've gone home on your HOH
but that means you weren't on the block. You vs Morgan could you imagine that?
Vince: Yeah that's a good point
Lauren: I would never do that
Vince: This is like a make or break move for me. And I feel like if you're okay with it, then it makes everything for both of us. If you're not okay it breaks everything for me. My game is done
IT's not
It is done. THere's no way I get any jury votes
that makes no sense. You have three ?? know they're going on the block. Know you're not aligned with ?? know what I mean? So put those three people on the blok. I thinkw e're thinking way too far ahead
I'm just trying to think one step at a time while also thinking jury management phase
Jury management means nothing if we don't get there
Right. And this is the only way that I Get there. It's goin gto work
It's not
I know you're not a risk taker, just like me. But these are people that it's not you trusting them, it's me trusting them. THey wouldn't do this to me
You dn't know that
This is the only chance I have of making it further in thsi game. I wish I could paint out my brain why it not only makes sense but it's the only choice practically. Which I won't do if you're not okay with it. But I just need you to see it. Cause it even gives me a chance to go a little further
Imagine how every week is so differnet though. Everything we think is gonna happen, never happen.s KNow what I mean?
yeah
so it's impossible to predict the future. Every week something we could've never predicted happen.s Every week
That' why I'm trying to fill al the cracks
So trying to predict the future is impossible
But guaranteeing with these few peopl eis. It was crazier back then because ?? many people.
Last week, that's what Keanu said. Vince only needs so many votes and we have them guaranteed. I don't understnad why they would be so upset. I don't get it
CAuse then you're just never willing to wokr with them
How is it me going up on the block willin gto work with them
cause you're such a strong competitor
I'm not. I've won ?? veto. Morgan's won more vetoes than me. Put Morgan up
I couldn't ?? that. Sh ewould go off on me
Well, do you want me to go off on you?
Please don't
That's not who I am but I don't want t obe pushed around in thsi game either. I have to stand my ground
Do you think me putting you up would be me pushing you around?
yeah
why?
that's how I Would see it because it's making other people happy
but it's also helping your game
No it's not
It is. It makes you not public enemy, or top threat number one favorite to win this wwhole game
In this case, I take myself down, Ava goes up. Two of my only other allies are on the block adn one of them is guaranteed to go home
BUt that scares me because if you use veto on them it screws me twice
I won't
why would you not? THey would both look at you like why would you not use it on us
I would do whatever you want me to do
But that hurts your game. That's why this prevents you from even bein gin that position. IT's exactly the position I was in last week. I couldn't change what you erew gonna do. You were okay with Morgan going home. and she might have if she didn't win veto. But because of the power dynamic shifted, I had to be at peace with that if she went home. So if it's one of your numbres i hope you understand that
I have to live with taht eitehr way because that's probably what' sgonna happen
You never know
So I would hurt my game twice
How would it hurt your game twice?
Iw ould go on th eblock twice
which helps your game
no it doesn't
because you're the favorite to win. People will want you out if you don't go on the block this week because you are a clear favorite
then next week they put me on the block and they have the power ot get me out
right but if you do have to lsoe a number then ??
but I go up on the block either way
but you'd have mor enumbres
I don't
You do. Why don't you trust me
I do trust you. Id on't trust them
But I trust them
Okay but that's not the same thing
it is because it's trusting them to ensure this
No
I do it, you're livid
hm?
If I do it and even if it worked out, you'd be mad
Yeah
How mad? Would you forgive me and would it be like see told you it worked out? Or would it break everything
I feel like I've done so much, put so much on the line. Lost so many people
you have
To be put up on the block when I don't even need to be on the block. To maybe somehow gain an ally. And put my whole game in jeopardy in teh process. THat's how I see it
It's not in jeopardy
Yeah it is. If I am on the block I'm in jeopardy. The only way to guarantee the two closest people in this game to you to not go this week is for both of us to not go up on the block
TO guarantee that you both are continuing to ride forward not gunning for each other is if you do go up
you're thinking too far ahead
I don't ?? gunning after each other
?? can't keep assuming things. Nothing that we have predicted in this game has ever happened. Ever
but with the numbers dwindling. WE ?? guarantee ?? safe
And now, even if you don't put me on the block I'm gonna have to talk to them. If I say ?? consdiering put me on the block they're gonna be like oh my GOd what the hell? Why would he do that?
Don't tell them that
I won't. BUt if you put me on the block they're gonn abe like what the fuck. We want him out
They want me out regardless
No they don't. I talked to them yesterday
Vince: ?? them on the block? Why because I put Keanu up it makes it okay? Does that make them less mad at me?
Lauren: I think they see specifically because me and Ava have a kind of personal relationship. She sees how your game moves have affected my game and how I've protected yours. So if she sees you put me up, she'd be like wow. That's insane. After everything
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