Big Brother 27
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Vince talks with Kelley outside
Kelley says if she wins veto, she'll either use it on Ava or keep noms the same
Vince tells Kelley that Morgan has a very big soft spot for her
They talka bout Keanu picking Morgan to play veto, and how Keanu, Morgan, and Ashley wanted Lauren on the block
Kelley says Lauren was the only one who didn't make a showmance comment about Vince and Morgan. Even Will was a gossiping ass bitch last week
Vince laughs and says yeah he believes it
Kelley says the worst thing she said the entire time was she wouldn't
Vince says that's not that bad. Better than cheating island
Kelley says better than evicted from his own relationship
Vince says Keanu said that? Will? Ashley
Kelley nods
Vince says Ashley pisses him off too
Kelley says she said it while htey were on live. She's sorry. She doesn't wnat to keep bringing it up.
Vince says it's alright
Kelley says if he needd an extra push not to put Lauren up
Vicne says no that's plenty. That's all he needs
Kelley says she has a couple more in the tank
Vince says let's save them next time he needs some fuel tomorrow. Don't let him get over any of those
Kelley says no, she won't let him get over any of them. She thinks she's in a relatively good spot right now
Vince says she is
Kelley says especially now that Keanu isn't mad at her anymore
Vince says him putting her on the block next to him immediately rebonded them
Kelley says thank you
Vince says because it's Kelley adn Keanu against the world
Kelley says except this time it's not
Vince says because it's a different part of the game
Kelley says thanks Vince
Vince says talking to Lauren yesterday. They wanted him to put her on the block. He would only do it if he could guartantee she played. When she got picked he was relieved.
Kelley asks if he thinks she could win the whole game
Vince says potentially
Kelley says especially if she doesn't hit the block
Vince says that's what everyone keeps saying. That was the big sellin gpoint for Chelsie last year. So, yes. Is that the only thign that would make somebody win? No but she has won two HOHs and a veto
Kelley says she'd win a blockbuster
Vince says she could, but she's a friend of his so, that's okay. Whatever. But yeah for sure she could
Kelley says she worries Keanu wants to take Ashley
Vince says for beatability yeah
Kelley says Keanu told her that Vicne told him that she told Vince to his face that she hates him
Vince says no. He was saying he put him on th eblock because he's putting people on the block who are suppose dto be allies. He was like no, Kelley hated him after the Rylie vote. She was tellin gpeople she hated him
Kelley says that was part of the plan
Vince says Keanu said he didn't know she said she hated him. He said why would she not
Kelley says when they came to her house, they asked her what kinds of people she doesn't get along with. Can he remember what hers was? Alpha bros
Vince says and she finds herself aligned with one
Kelley says if she stays on the blok she will have been on the block for 40 days. By Thursday
Vince says so that would be out of 73
Kelley says she said that last night and Ashley said that's not so bad
Vince says what?! That's unheard of
Kelley says Keanu had nominated next day off. There's only one time he was up for a full week. And he's been a renom once. So that's three days. 12 days. vs 40
Vince says that's crazy
(They talk about the noisy washer)
Kelley says thanks for chatting
Vince says sorry for not being able to talk to her yesterady
Kelley says he wasn't going to be on her block
Vince says he assumed
Kelley says she does see what he's saying about everyone hates the two of them. But she wants Rachel to choose between th etwo of them
Vince says do you know how hard a deicsion that would be? She would say she's not voting
Kelley says Rachel hates him more but he's won comps and she said that's part of her criteria
Vince says she says she's not a bitter juror. He thinks she will be. Sh'ell say you didn't have to social game. How many conversaitons did we have the entire time I Was in the house? Four? Mayeb five
Kelley says but he's won HOH 3 times
Vince says he has ?? HOH, btu she has the social aspect
Kelley says she wants Rachel to have ot choose between them
Vince says that would be hilarious
Kelley asks what he thinks the veto is gonna be
Vince says he thinks mini
Kelley says they already did stacking though, and shows him her steady hand today. ... She doesn't know what it was that made ?? feel like he would be on her block
Vince says he knew he'd be on Ava's, but he didn't know she'd want to take a shot at Keanu
Kelley says she would, and he'd respect it
Vince says Probably. But he did tell him he asked Kelley if he'd be her replacment nom and she was like maybe
Kelley says Keanu would've been her original nom
Vince says that makes more sense now. ... Alright now he has to find Morgan. She went upstairs to wait for him and then Lauren pulled him. Then he wanted to talk to her
(They hug)
Vince says let's figure out what this veto is and win it. Every weke it feels like the one person who can't, wins it. It's a strong pool of competitors, but anybody can win it
(They head inside)
Kelley says if she wins veto, she'll either use it on Ava or keep noms the same
Vince tells Kelley that Morgan has a very big soft spot for her
They talka bout Keanu picking Morgan to play veto, and how Keanu, Morgan, and Ashley wanted Lauren on the block
Kelley says Lauren was the only one who didn't make a showmance comment about Vince and Morgan. Even Will was a gossiping ass bitch last week
Vince laughs and says yeah he believes it
Kelley says the worst thing she said the entire time was she wouldn't
Vince says that's not that bad. Better than cheating island
Kelley says better than evicted from his own relationship
Vince says Keanu said that? Will? Ashley
Kelley nods
Vince says Ashley pisses him off too
Kelley says she said it while htey were on live. She's sorry. She doesn't wnat to keep bringing it up.
Vince says it's alright
Kelley says if he needd an extra push not to put Lauren up
Vicne says no that's plenty. That's all he needs
Kelley says she has a couple more in the tank
Vince says let's save them next time he needs some fuel tomorrow. Don't let him get over any of those
Kelley says no, she won't let him get over any of them. She thinks she's in a relatively good spot right now
Vince says she is
Kelley says especially now that Keanu isn't mad at her anymore
Vince says him putting her on the block next to him immediately rebonded them
Kelley says thank you
Vince says because it's Kelley adn Keanu against the world
Kelley says except this time it's not
Vince says because it's a different part of the game
Kelley says thanks Vince
Vince says talking to Lauren yesterday. They wanted him to put her on the block. He would only do it if he could guartantee she played. When she got picked he was relieved.
Kelley asks if he thinks she could win the whole game
Vince says potentially
Kelley says especially if she doesn't hit the block
Vince says that's what everyone keeps saying. That was the big sellin gpoint for Chelsie last year. So, yes. Is that the only thign that would make somebody win? No but she has won two HOHs and a veto
Kelley says she'd win a blockbuster
Vince says she could, but she's a friend of his so, that's okay. Whatever. But yeah for sure she could
Kelley says she worries Keanu wants to take Ashley
Vince says for beatability yeah
Kelley says Keanu told her that Vicne told him that she told Vince to his face that she hates him
Vince says no. He was saying he put him on th eblock because he's putting people on the block who are suppose dto be allies. He was like no, Kelley hated him after the Rylie vote. She was tellin gpeople she hated him
Kelley says that was part of the plan
Vince says Keanu said he didn't know she said she hated him. He said why would she not
Kelley says when they came to her house, they asked her what kinds of people she doesn't get along with. Can he remember what hers was? Alpha bros
Vince says and she finds herself aligned with one
Kelley says if she stays on the blok she will have been on the block for 40 days. By Thursday
Vince says so that would be out of 73
Kelley says she said that last night and Ashley said that's not so bad
Vince says what?! That's unheard of
Kelley says Keanu had nominated next day off. There's only one time he was up for a full week. And he's been a renom once. So that's three days. 12 days. vs 40
Vince says that's crazy
(They talk about the noisy washer)
Kelley says thanks for chatting
Vince says sorry for not being able to talk to her yesterady
Kelley says he wasn't going to be on her block
Vince says he assumed
Kelley says she does see what he's saying about everyone hates the two of them. But she wants Rachel to choose between th etwo of them
Vince says do you know how hard a deicsion that would be? She would say she's not voting
Kelley says Rachel hates him more but he's won comps and she said that's part of her criteria
Vince says she says she's not a bitter juror. He thinks she will be. Sh'ell say you didn't have to social game. How many conversaitons did we have the entire time I Was in the house? Four? Mayeb five
Kelley says but he's won HOH 3 times
Vince says he has ?? HOH, btu she has the social aspect
Kelley says she wants Rachel to have ot choose between them
Vince says that would be hilarious
Kelley asks what he thinks the veto is gonna be
Vince says he thinks mini
Kelley says they already did stacking though, and shows him her steady hand today. ... She doesn't know what it was that made ?? feel like he would be on her block
Vince says he knew he'd be on Ava's, but he didn't know she'd want to take a shot at Keanu
Kelley says she would, and he'd respect it
Vince says Probably. But he did tell him he asked Kelley if he'd be her replacment nom and she was like maybe
Kelley says Keanu would've been her original nom
Vince says that makes more sense now. ... Alright now he has to find Morgan. She went upstairs to wait for him and then Lauren pulled him. Then he wanted to talk to her
(They hug)
Vince says let's figure out what this veto is and win it. Every weke it feels like the one person who can't, wins it. It's a strong pool of competitors, but anybody can win it
(They head inside)
Keanu talks by himself in the gym
Keanu says he and Morgan are gonna try to knock out Lauren first. He feels like everyone will try to knock him out first. Maybe not Kelley. She'd lose a vote with him, but she doesn't have much forward thinking so that's probably something she would do
Keanu says he and Morgan are gonna try to knock out Lauren first. He feels like everyone will try to knock him out first. Maybe not Kelley. She'd lose a vote with him, but she doesn't have much forward thinking so that's probably something she would do
Morgan and Vince talk in the HOH room
Morgan is upset that Vince doesn't want to put Lauren up and send her home
Morgan leaves
Vince talks to the cams
Vince: So that talk went well. I don't understand how she doesn't see somebody who would protect me and a number to keep me safe is good for my game to get out of the house. Over two peopel who would put me on the block every chance they get. She's not seeing my side of things. She's not seeing mys idea of things. mm mm... Good talk. I'm able to work with Rachel after she convinces people to put me up for five weeks then puts me up the sixth wee. And I can forget all that. She cast a vote to evict me, she told people to put me on block. She's wants me gone. She wants veto not used. And I put all that aside and I work with her and I cretae this alliance. I don't create it I join this alliance, but I trust that. But just because she cast one vote and put you on the block once. It's not the same? What are we talking about here? What are you talking about? It doesn't fucking make sense. It would be your HOH not mine. That doesn't make any sense for my game. How does that ?? for me? I win this week and I sent home my other closest ally. That doesn't gain respect from the jury. That reduces it. Not gonna fucking convince me otherwise.
Vince heads downstairs
Vince and Lauren talk casually in the kitchen (non-game)
Morgan walks past and asks Vince if he's making a sandwich then goes out to the backyard
Lauren: I'm pretty sure this is also the exact week that hapepend too
Vince: It probably is
Lauren: I'm telling you. I'm pretty sure it is
I don't understand the argument that you leaving on my HOH is good for my game. Hwo is that good for me?
It looks opposite
they would say he protected her, she's protected him. And then
you just look unloyal. And it looks the exact opposite
exactly. That doesn't gain respect
if she wants to put me up. She can win HOH and put me up
I don't disagree
Like if 1+1 = 2 and 2+2 = 4... I don't understand.
Vince: Yeah man
Lauren: It makes me irritated
Vince: No but, you have some kind of sway over me
Lauren: (laugh)
Vince: Or, we're allies maybe? We've saved each other all game?
Lauren: We've been saving each otehr the entire game/ I used the veto on you? I voted Zach out against you. I never put you up?
Vince: Everyone says you were reluctant and wanted Zach out over me ad you only went with the house
Lauren: sure
Vince: and you using the veto doesn't count because you regretted it immeidately and wished you hadn't and wished I'd gone instead
Lauren: right
Vince: All those good things
Lauren: None of it really counts
Vince: Nothing counts
Lauren: If you really think about it none of it really counts
Vince: (laugh)
Kelley joins
...
Kelley: Morgan and Keanu outside. Morgan's sad in the hammock, and he's consoling her
Vince: Oh come on dude
Kelley: Gives you shit about it for months
Vince: Come on man
Kelley: I'm gonna go get my water bottle
Now this is jus gonna make Keanu even more pissed at me. Fan that flame
Lauren: Like oh man I'm sad that my friend won't put his friend on the block
Vince: right
Lauren: What are we talking about?
Vince: exactly. ?? Keanu's gonna do, let's get Vince out ?? Okay yeah you got it
Kelley returns
They talk casually
Morgan is upset that Vince doesn't want to put Lauren up and send her home
Morgan leaves
Vince talks to the cams
Vince: So that talk went well. I don't understand how she doesn't see somebody who would protect me and a number to keep me safe is good for my game to get out of the house. Over two peopel who would put me on the block every chance they get. She's not seeing my side of things. She's not seeing mys idea of things. mm mm... Good talk. I'm able to work with Rachel after she convinces people to put me up for five weeks then puts me up the sixth wee. And I can forget all that. She cast a vote to evict me, she told people to put me on block. She's wants me gone. She wants veto not used. And I put all that aside and I work with her and I cretae this alliance. I don't create it I join this alliance, but I trust that. But just because she cast one vote and put you on the block once. It's not the same? What are we talking about here? What are you talking about? It doesn't fucking make sense. It would be your HOH not mine. That doesn't make any sense for my game. How does that ?? for me? I win this week and I sent home my other closest ally. That doesn't gain respect from the jury. That reduces it. Not gonna fucking convince me otherwise.
Vince heads downstairs
Vince and Lauren talk casually in the kitchen (non-game)
Morgan walks past and asks Vince if he's making a sandwich then goes out to the backyard
Lauren: I'm pretty sure this is also the exact week that hapepend too
Vince: It probably is
Lauren: I'm telling you. I'm pretty sure it is
I don't understand the argument that you leaving on my HOH is good for my game. Hwo is that good for me?
It looks opposite
they would say he protected her, she's protected him. And then
you just look unloyal. And it looks the exact opposite
exactly. That doesn't gain respect
if she wants to put me up. She can win HOH and put me up
I don't disagree
Like if 1+1 = 2 and 2+2 = 4... I don't understand.
Vince: Yeah man
Lauren: It makes me irritated
Vince: No but, you have some kind of sway over me
Lauren: (laugh)
Vince: Or, we're allies maybe? We've saved each other all game?
Lauren: We've been saving each otehr the entire game/ I used the veto on you? I voted Zach out against you. I never put you up?
Vince: Everyone says you were reluctant and wanted Zach out over me ad you only went with the house
Lauren: sure
Vince: and you using the veto doesn't count because you regretted it immeidately and wished you hadn't and wished I'd gone instead
Lauren: right
Vince: All those good things
Lauren: None of it really counts
Vince: Nothing counts
Lauren: If you really think about it none of it really counts
Vince: (laugh)
Kelley joins
...
Kelley: Morgan and Keanu outside. Morgan's sad in the hammock, and he's consoling her
Vince: Oh come on dude
Kelley: Gives you shit about it for months
Vince: Come on man
Kelley: I'm gonna go get my water bottle
Now this is jus gonna make Keanu even more pissed at me. Fan that flame
Lauren: Like oh man I'm sad that my friend won't put his friend on the block
Vince: right
Lauren: What are we talking about?
Vince: exactly. ?? Keanu's gonna do, let's get Vince out ?? Okay yeah you got it
Kelley returns
They talk casually
Morgan and Keanu talk outside
Morgan tells Keanu people have been looking in her direction for a while
Keanu thinks he's still the number one target
Morgan says she thinks it's him first and her second. ... She's very aware she's a target in the house and she doesn't care
Ashley and Ava have only won three comps together, and one of Ava's was just for safety
Morgan says she wants people out who are targeting her. If she's being targeted by LAuren. If he's worried about other people. He knows Keanu's not targeting him. Kelley's probabyl taargeting him, maybe, she doesn't know who Kelley is targeting
Keanu say Kelley would proabbly put the three of them up. But at the end of the day it's the house who decides
Morgan says she thinks he looks at things perceptually. Because if Ava was to stay her block would be her, him, and Vince. She thinks va would put up Kelley but she oesn't know. She doesn't talk to her like that
Keanu says he thinks anybody would put all three of them up. But in this game, all three of them could come down
Morgan says but they're mor elikely to win vetoes
Keanu says and vote for the third person to stay. That's what's differnet about this season. That's why they need to maintain the numbers
Morgan says she agrees. Part of her pitch is going to be a lot for him. She's a very strategic thinker
Keanu says him and he rboth. They tell him teh same thing
Morgan says while Vince is the most insulated, Lauren is the most protected in the house. She his Ava, Kelley, Vince
Keanu says he thinks AShley would go after her but she's probably not gonn aget power
Morgan says Asley would vote her out but Lauren is the most protected person. She wouldnt' say Vinny because Vinny is protected by her and him
Keanu says but that's only one less person than LAuren. When he gets her out
Morgan says but he can't compete next week
Keanu syas but the chances of them winning with her out is a lot higher. If she wins he's safe but shes gonna put them in danger
Morgan says yeah, even though she thinks she's gunning for Keanu, she thinks she's gonna be her target and Vince just doesn't see that
Keanu says he doesn't understand how Vince's brain works. He's still playing like it's the beginning of the game
Morgan says at the beginning him and Zach wanted them to bring in Lauren, btu she was really shy ad she wasn't gonna work with someone who could not speak. And she saw how Zach looked at her and she knew where that was going. She knew they wanted her in jury. She underestimated the connection
Keanu says that's where Vince needs Lauren
Morgan says ??
Keanu says if he wants them to send her home he swears he'll say in the goodbye message Vinny didn't want them to send her home. He feels like she would still vote for him. She basically worships the ground he walks on. She would forgive him. That's a great early game, late game why would you keep someone that's gonna beat you and also targeting your two strongest allies
Morgan says that's the part that boils her blood. She has to leave conversations. It irritates her. Her argument she always tells him. They've always been good but the maze portion was the first time she felt some type of way because he picked Lauren over her. When she knew Mickey was gonna put him up it never left her mind that she was gonna target her. She just had to do it strategically. So her number one ally wantedh im out and she waited for the right time. She feels like his number one ally wants her out and he's like they'll have the numbers to save her. She doesn't want the numbers ?? she put her on the block. IF the noms would've been the same she would've won BLockbuster, but it would've been way too tempting. Vince told her that Lauren said she wasn't the target but ??
Keanu says ??
Morgan says Lauren's plan A would've been her. Ashley would've been taken down, and Keanu would've been put up.
Keanu says 100%
Morgan says with noms being the same it's ignorant that she wouldn't have been the target. There's no reason she wanted Will out
Keanu says that's why they did what they did. It totally tanked her game
Morgan says that's why Vince feels like it doesn't make sense to take her out because it tanked her game
Keanu says Lauren would still beat Vince
Morgan says she's just htinking about past conversations she's had about Lauren, what she could be facing. So she's thinking about what she's going into
Keanu says you're not gonna win against her. So whya re you keeping her around. because you have the chance to take her out right now. You're not gonna get another opportunity not like this where you could make sure it happens. He's not gonna win against you. And he's already told me he doesn't want you in the final two because he can't win. If you dont' wwant either of them in what are you doing?
If you have to take a shot at one of them you take a shot at number two
he doesn't win against me either so I Dont know what his plan is. I was like are you playing for second place? If you're trying to play for first, you get out a strong perception
if he was worried about perception, taking out Lauren is way better than taking out
Kelley our
taking out me. Taking out Lauren I don't feel like people would be like that's shady. I feel liek people would be liek that's shady
but is it? It's so late in the game
no I'm saying right now
oh right now yeah yeah
II'm saying this week
but I was gonna say yeah he can't win next HOH. I wouldn't even blame him if he put us both up
yeah you gotta make tough ddecisions
you take Lauren out and you take one of us out, now you could win. And the chances of you winning not only because you have a good resume now, but also who the fuck is left? One strong physical competitor, Ava, Ashley, and you. Brother, come on
yeah
he says hte path is so clear and I'm like but is it? Do you actually see th epath clear? I can see the path for his game very clearly
He's the only person in this house that has two die hards
that's true
He's the only person in thsi house that has two die hards. If I'm him that's prbably what I'm valuing the most. Why would I send home someone who would never vote me out or put me up
I wouldn't either, the only I did that was to put you up adn I didn't trust him to not use the veto on you
yeah
but I'd liek to think eh knows I wouldn't put hoim up
I know you'd put me up before him and that makes sense. Like I know that
I told him that, it's just like dude obviously
Morgan says that's not news to me either. I would put you up before I put him up and it's the same thing.
Keanu laughs
Morgan says yeah, it's not like we're reading breaking news
Feeds switch
even if it wasn't to save face in the beginning, maybe not as an initial nom, but I for sure think she would put me as a renom to ensure that someone's in there giving whoever she wants out a legit fight in the blockbuster. And if I don't come back she's just liek oops. Obviousy I wouldn't liek that
yeah I know
I would not liek that but I do think she is thinking liek that, and I know I certainly am. if she ends up staying this week, she's gonna be the sword I pick forblockbuster every single time
yeah
which honestly for her that's a good resume thing. It might be the blockbuster saving your life but at thi spoint ebcause people have th epossibility of taking themselves off. Three people coudl all come off. If you put someone up there wiht the intention of taking somebody else out. I don't know if the early ?? could be used liek that but the late ones can. You're literally weaponising someone to send someone home
yeah for sure. I don't know what he's gonna do. I get irritated because all seeason for hima dn Zach Lauren was their untouchable. And it's frustrating when you think abotu she's their untouchlable and you question if you are. I know I'm Vinny's untouchable but at the same time we're so far late in the game I didn't htink I'd be dealing with this in week 10
that's what I kep telling him. You'r eplaying this liek it's the early game and it's not
So it's hard cause i know he wants her. I know they both wanted her in jury cause she was a guaranteed vote for htem. So all the more reason tos end her to the jury. If I'm him he just doens't wnat to send her home on his HOH. That's what he told me before noms. Obviously I was giving him pitches on why she should go up. He was liek I just don't want to send her home on y HOH
but this is the chance you have. And shes gonna be a vote no matter what. Who the fuck else is she gonna vote?
Unless he's sitting next to AVa which he won't take her to the fianls. I don't even thinks he, let me not say that. She could
eeryone has the possibility
but I din't see Lauren voting for Ava over Vinny. She votes for him no matter what
and he reason you wanted her to get to this point is to be a jury vote for you. Make her a jury vote for you. If not she might not see tha tblock again
if she wins next wek she doesn't see the block adn if Ava wins she doesn't dsee the block and if she wins final four. Even if she ?? every veto and just won that last HOH
that's crazy
that's what I said. It wouldn't be a CHelsi season. Chelsie was phenomenal with her social game and manipjulation liek in the righ ways. She was strategically manipualteive. Makensy
send home leah
sent home Leah?! I was like. But I don't see LAuren beasue of her social game she's not a Chelsie
no not even
not evne close
not even remotely close. Her social game rihgt now is literally just Vince
yeah cause she's cut off ties iwht people. She doens' twant to talk to them or hang out cause Vince is her social game. Iw ould say Ava as well and Kelley
Keanu says tha tis not what kept her safe from me
No you thought about a number
Yeh and got backstabbed. That's crazy
I can't say I'm surprised
I can honestly say I'm surprised. I cannot believe she would do that after. More to me specifically cause I had never targeted her. Her name never came out of my mouth not one time
yeah ??
there's no one who could say I said her name. I always wa s on the same side of the vote with her. I always wanted what she wanted. When she put me up the firs ttime I was super gracious.I gave her a hug. No harm no foul, and then I fucking saved you. Four fucking reason, and then you fucking put me up bro? Or legit wanted to backdoor me from the beginning of your HOH. She odesn' thave my jury vote
she doesn't have mine either because she couldn't tell me to my face she was puttingme up, no voting me out after telling me all season you and Vinny are the pepole I trust. She lied to my face. That's why when Vinny is like she never lies I'm like debatable
she told me I was good on her HOH. I was like okay. I was takign a shower two weeks ago. I don't know why we started talking about what we value in jyr. She was like integrity honesty. I was like okay. I can't in good conscience vote fo you in thsi game when you didn't uphold your own value
yeah becaue I know I was her target and it is very hard for me when VInny doesn' tbelieve I was her target. It's like bruh
yeah tha's pretty naive and dumb
especially when you look at the block. You think Will was her target? AShley was her target?
She basically did what Vinyn did when he put Mickey up. She put one person up there that one person won the veto and you put that other person up adn they're really good at blockbuster and now you whiffed
yeah my thing is I don't know. It's hard because it's tarting to come to the point in the game wher eit's liek I don't kno what else I can say for him to see that she doesn't want me in thsi house
yeah. I don't know how he doesn't see that even particularly like now. It's so late in the game. Why the fuck would she want you in the house. Sh edoesn't want me, she doesn't want you in the house. She probably doesn't wnat Kelley in the hosue either
I don't think so either. It's one thing if you want me out. But it's the fact that it's your number two. That's kind of where um I'm struggling. At least from last week after I won teh veto last week. he was really happy. I was like you do realize I neede thart right? That I was gonna go home if I hadn't. He's like no. I'm like Vince respectuflly, let's be for real. So it's hard because i care about him a lot but soemtimes I think he gets in his head a lot. it's almost like he knows the righ thting to do and then he'll get in his head nad he'll second guess. I don't know
he's also very easily manipulated. All you ahve to do is start crying in front of him adn that's all it took? But he did say today yeah she did that and I think she needs to go up. I was lik eokay. Good
Yeha
So I think you guys will have a godo converastion
I mean I hope so but I do know that before his noms the risk of putting her up is she could go home and he doesn't wnat her to go home
I'm telling you when we talked earlier, take me up and he promsies he'll put her up. He brought it up. So I was like oh great. He was like you talk to Morgan already? I was like she'll do it if you'lls end her home. He sounded cool with it. So liek you said, he'll have the idea, and hten he'll get in his head espeically if she bats her eyes a little bt. So I hope he doesn't fall for tha spell again
The only thing I know is when I walked outside she immediately followed him into the storage room
eyah I saw that. She just asked if she needed to be worried. And he said ?? doesn't know what she's gonna do
it's ?? becuase she's squirming now because i have the power ?? me being a bitch it'sjust like you were gunning for me. I have revery righ tbecasue you wanted me out last week. Thsis what hapens when you don't make a good social game and you piss somebody off and you lie to their face and you expect me to play nice?
Dude are you kidding me? To do that shit to me too? You whiffed on ehr and you're gonna choose me after that? So you lose all your insulation? You have the two best people at competitions now coming after you. Oh my God
That's why I was convinced that her Kelley and Ava have a thing. The fact that she told me befor enoms that Kelley and Ava are her untouchables
yeah she tol dme that
I Was like oh that's interesting
that's probably the only social game she has. I don't know if they're really close together
to be fair. If Vinny, Ava, and Kelley don't make it to final, those are her only votes. I don't see her having the votes to even win this game unless she doesn't touch the bloick. If she doesn't then it's a conerastion. I wouldn't be impressed with her social game. But ?? I'm being devil's advocate too. If she doesn't touch the block tha tmeans she wasn't a threat but to me I'd be more impressed wiht peopel who touched th eblock and survived. Who do you think is a better big brother player? Someone who doesn't touch the block because no one found them threatening and the one veto she did have she took 17 hours to decide on her number one?
laughs
what?! not only 17 hours, she had to consult the whole house
and she wouldn't have even done it if she knew Rylie
and she even said she regretted it
and he said yeah that is something that I'm now taking into consideration
even if she was to sit there, the person that won HOH is in the jury house. She's not gonna forget that you drove fucking crazy trying to figure out whether to use the veto.
as unbiased as I think she will be I don't thinks he would want Lauren to win
I don't thinks he's done game moves that earn her.
yeah I'm talking about ??
every decision you made you regretted after. You regretted Adrian wen thom. You whiffed twice and you sent Will home. Vinny as on th eblock. Everybody knew you were gonna use the veto on vinny but then you have to talk to everyone. I think what realyl ?? her was when she talked to Katherine and Rylie. And that's because after Rylie went up Katherine was like I told you. Me personally if my friend ?? there's no way I would alow someone to speak to me like that. At a veto ceremony
I don't remember her saying it to Lauren. I remember her saying I knew it
No she said I told you. I don't remember but someone said she said I told you
and then Rylie was staring through me. I Was like I didn't ?? It was Rachel
Morgan: ?? me and Mickey. I was like I'm ont he block. You think I want to go ?? next t oyou? Also me and Rachel weren't good at the time. I'm on her block. I didn't know who she was gonna renom. I thought shs was gonna put up Kelley. I was like oh you're gonna put up the blockbuster queen? One of these ?? is definitely going home. I was like maybe Mickey but I don't think so.
They continue talking
Morgan tells Keanu people have been looking in her direction for a while
Keanu thinks he's still the number one target
Morgan says she thinks it's him first and her second. ... She's very aware she's a target in the house and she doesn't care
Ashley and Ava have only won three comps together, and one of Ava's was just for safety
Morgan says she wants people out who are targeting her. If she's being targeted by LAuren. If he's worried about other people. He knows Keanu's not targeting him. Kelley's probabyl taargeting him, maybe, she doesn't know who Kelley is targeting
Keanu say Kelley would proabbly put the three of them up. But at the end of the day it's the house who decides
Morgan says she thinks he looks at things perceptually. Because if Ava was to stay her block would be her, him, and Vince. She thinks va would put up Kelley but she oesn't know. She doesn't talk to her like that
Keanu says he thinks anybody would put all three of them up. But in this game, all three of them could come down
Morgan says but they're mor elikely to win vetoes
Keanu says and vote for the third person to stay. That's what's differnet about this season. That's why they need to maintain the numbers
Morgan says she agrees. Part of her pitch is going to be a lot for him. She's a very strategic thinker
Keanu says him and he rboth. They tell him teh same thing
Morgan says while Vince is the most insulated, Lauren is the most protected in the house. She his Ava, Kelley, Vince
Keanu says he thinks AShley would go after her but she's probably not gonn aget power
Morgan says Asley would vote her out but Lauren is the most protected person. She wouldnt' say Vinny because Vinny is protected by her and him
Keanu says but that's only one less person than LAuren. When he gets her out
Morgan says but he can't compete next week
Keanu syas but the chances of them winning with her out is a lot higher. If she wins he's safe but shes gonna put them in danger
Morgan says yeah, even though she thinks she's gunning for Keanu, she thinks she's gonna be her target and Vince just doesn't see that
Keanu says he doesn't understand how Vince's brain works. He's still playing like it's the beginning of the game
Morgan says at the beginning him and Zach wanted them to bring in Lauren, btu she was really shy ad she wasn't gonna work with someone who could not speak. And she saw how Zach looked at her and she knew where that was going. She knew they wanted her in jury. She underestimated the connection
Keanu says that's where Vince needs Lauren
Morgan says ??
Keanu says if he wants them to send her home he swears he'll say in the goodbye message Vinny didn't want them to send her home. He feels like she would still vote for him. She basically worships the ground he walks on. She would forgive him. That's a great early game, late game why would you keep someone that's gonna beat you and also targeting your two strongest allies
Morgan says that's the part that boils her blood. She has to leave conversations. It irritates her. Her argument she always tells him. They've always been good but the maze portion was the first time she felt some type of way because he picked Lauren over her. When she knew Mickey was gonna put him up it never left her mind that she was gonna target her. She just had to do it strategically. So her number one ally wantedh im out and she waited for the right time. She feels like his number one ally wants her out and he's like they'll have the numbers to save her. She doesn't want the numbers ?? she put her on the block. IF the noms would've been the same she would've won BLockbuster, but it would've been way too tempting. Vince told her that Lauren said she wasn't the target but ??
Keanu says ??
Morgan says Lauren's plan A would've been her. Ashley would've been taken down, and Keanu would've been put up.
Keanu says 100%
Morgan says with noms being the same it's ignorant that she wouldn't have been the target. There's no reason she wanted Will out
Keanu says that's why they did what they did. It totally tanked her game
Morgan says that's why Vince feels like it doesn't make sense to take her out because it tanked her game
Keanu says Lauren would still beat Vince
Morgan says she's just htinking about past conversations she's had about Lauren, what she could be facing. So she's thinking about what she's going into
Keanu says you're not gonna win against her. So whya re you keeping her around. because you have the chance to take her out right now. You're not gonna get another opportunity not like this where you could make sure it happens. He's not gonna win against you. And he's already told me he doesn't want you in the final two because he can't win. If you dont' wwant either of them in what are you doing?
If you have to take a shot at one of them you take a shot at number two
he doesn't win against me either so I Dont know what his plan is. I was like are you playing for second place? If you're trying to play for first, you get out a strong perception
if he was worried about perception, taking out Lauren is way better than taking out
Kelley our
taking out me. Taking out Lauren I don't feel like people would be like that's shady. I feel liek people would be liek that's shady
but is it? It's so late in the game
no I'm saying right now
oh right now yeah yeah
II'm saying this week
but I was gonna say yeah he can't win next HOH. I wouldn't even blame him if he put us both up
yeah you gotta make tough ddecisions
you take Lauren out and you take one of us out, now you could win. And the chances of you winning not only because you have a good resume now, but also who the fuck is left? One strong physical competitor, Ava, Ashley, and you. Brother, come on
yeah
he says hte path is so clear and I'm like but is it? Do you actually see th epath clear? I can see the path for his game very clearly
He's the only person in this house that has two die hards
that's true
He's the only person in thsi house that has two die hards. If I'm him that's prbably what I'm valuing the most. Why would I send home someone who would never vote me out or put me up
I wouldn't either, the only I did that was to put you up adn I didn't trust him to not use the veto on you
yeah
but I'd liek to think eh knows I wouldn't put hoim up
I know you'd put me up before him and that makes sense. Like I know that
I told him that, it's just like dude obviously
Morgan says that's not news to me either. I would put you up before I put him up and it's the same thing.
Keanu laughs
Morgan says yeah, it's not like we're reading breaking news
Feeds switch
even if it wasn't to save face in the beginning, maybe not as an initial nom, but I for sure think she would put me as a renom to ensure that someone's in there giving whoever she wants out a legit fight in the blockbuster. And if I don't come back she's just liek oops. Obviousy I wouldn't liek that
yeah I know
I would not liek that but I do think she is thinking liek that, and I know I certainly am. if she ends up staying this week, she's gonna be the sword I pick forblockbuster every single time
yeah
which honestly for her that's a good resume thing. It might be the blockbuster saving your life but at thi spoint ebcause people have th epossibility of taking themselves off. Three people coudl all come off. If you put someone up there wiht the intention of taking somebody else out. I don't know if the early ?? could be used liek that but the late ones can. You're literally weaponising someone to send someone home
yeah for sure. I don't know what he's gonna do. I get irritated because all seeason for hima dn Zach Lauren was their untouchable. And it's frustrating when you think abotu she's their untouchlable and you question if you are. I know I'm Vinny's untouchable but at the same time we're so far late in the game I didn't htink I'd be dealing with this in week 10
that's what I kep telling him. You'r eplaying this liek it's the early game and it's not
So it's hard cause i know he wants her. I know they both wanted her in jury cause she was a guaranteed vote for htem. So all the more reason tos end her to the jury. If I'm him he just doens't wnat to send her home on his HOH. That's what he told me before noms. Obviously I was giving him pitches on why she should go up. He was liek I just don't want to send her home on y HOH
but this is the chance you have. And shes gonna be a vote no matter what. Who the fuck else is she gonna vote?
Unless he's sitting next to AVa which he won't take her to the fianls. I don't even thinks he, let me not say that. She could
eeryone has the possibility
but I din't see Lauren voting for Ava over Vinny. She votes for him no matter what
and he reason you wanted her to get to this point is to be a jury vote for you. Make her a jury vote for you. If not she might not see tha tblock again
if she wins next wek she doesn't see the block adn if Ava wins she doesn't dsee the block and if she wins final four. Even if she ?? every veto and just won that last HOH
that's crazy
that's what I said. It wouldn't be a CHelsi season. Chelsie was phenomenal with her social game and manipjulation liek in the righ ways. She was strategically manipualteive. Makensy
send home leah
sent home Leah?! I was like. But I don't see LAuren beasue of her social game she's not a Chelsie
no not even
not evne close
not even remotely close. Her social game rihgt now is literally just Vince
yeah cause she's cut off ties iwht people. She doens' twant to talk to them or hang out cause Vince is her social game. Iw ould say Ava as well and Kelley
Keanu says tha tis not what kept her safe from me
No you thought about a number
Yeh and got backstabbed. That's crazy
I can't say I'm surprised
I can honestly say I'm surprised. I cannot believe she would do that after. More to me specifically cause I had never targeted her. Her name never came out of my mouth not one time
yeah ??
there's no one who could say I said her name. I always wa s on the same side of the vote with her. I always wanted what she wanted. When she put me up the firs ttime I was super gracious.I gave her a hug. No harm no foul, and then I fucking saved you. Four fucking reason, and then you fucking put me up bro? Or legit wanted to backdoor me from the beginning of your HOH. She odesn' thave my jury vote
she doesn't have mine either because she couldn't tell me to my face she was puttingme up, no voting me out after telling me all season you and Vinny are the pepole I trust. She lied to my face. That's why when Vinny is like she never lies I'm like debatable
she told me I was good on her HOH. I was like okay. I was takign a shower two weeks ago. I don't know why we started talking about what we value in jyr. She was like integrity honesty. I was like okay. I can't in good conscience vote fo you in thsi game when you didn't uphold your own value
yeah becaue I know I was her target and it is very hard for me when VInny doesn' tbelieve I was her target. It's like bruh
yeah tha's pretty naive and dumb
especially when you look at the block. You think Will was her target? AShley was her target?
She basically did what Vinyn did when he put Mickey up. She put one person up there that one person won the veto and you put that other person up adn they're really good at blockbuster and now you whiffed
yeah my thing is I don't know. It's hard because it's tarting to come to the point in the game wher eit's liek I don't kno what else I can say for him to see that she doesn't want me in thsi house
yeah. I don't know how he doesn't see that even particularly like now. It's so late in the game. Why the fuck would she want you in the house. Sh edoesn't want me, she doesn't want you in the house. She probably doesn't wnat Kelley in the hosue either
I don't think so either. It's one thing if you want me out. But it's the fact that it's your number two. That's kind of where um I'm struggling. At least from last week after I won teh veto last week. he was really happy. I was like you do realize I neede thart right? That I was gonna go home if I hadn't. He's like no. I'm like Vince respectuflly, let's be for real. So it's hard because i care about him a lot but soemtimes I think he gets in his head a lot. it's almost like he knows the righ thting to do and then he'll get in his head nad he'll second guess. I don't know
he's also very easily manipulated. All you ahve to do is start crying in front of him adn that's all it took? But he did say today yeah she did that and I think she needs to go up. I was lik eokay. Good
Yeha
So I think you guys will have a godo converastion
I mean I hope so but I do know that before his noms the risk of putting her up is she could go home and he doesn't wnat her to go home
I'm telling you when we talked earlier, take me up and he promsies he'll put her up. He brought it up. So I was like oh great. He was like you talk to Morgan already? I was like she'll do it if you'lls end her home. He sounded cool with it. So liek you said, he'll have the idea, and hten he'll get in his head espeically if she bats her eyes a little bt. So I hope he doesn't fall for tha spell again
The only thing I know is when I walked outside she immediately followed him into the storage room
eyah I saw that. She just asked if she needed to be worried. And he said ?? doesn't know what she's gonna do
it's ?? becuase she's squirming now because i have the power ?? me being a bitch it'sjust like you were gunning for me. I have revery righ tbecasue you wanted me out last week. Thsis what hapens when you don't make a good social game and you piss somebody off and you lie to their face and you expect me to play nice?
Dude are you kidding me? To do that shit to me too? You whiffed on ehr and you're gonna choose me after that? So you lose all your insulation? You have the two best people at competitions now coming after you. Oh my God
That's why I was convinced that her Kelley and Ava have a thing. The fact that she told me befor enoms that Kelley and Ava are her untouchables
yeah she tol dme that
I Was like oh that's interesting
that's probably the only social game she has. I don't know if they're really close together
to be fair. If Vinny, Ava, and Kelley don't make it to final, those are her only votes. I don't see her having the votes to even win this game unless she doesn't touch the bloick. If she doesn't then it's a conerastion. I wouldn't be impressed with her social game. But ?? I'm being devil's advocate too. If she doesn't touch the block tha tmeans she wasn't a threat but to me I'd be more impressed wiht peopel who touched th eblock and survived. Who do you think is a better big brother player? Someone who doesn't touch the block because no one found them threatening and the one veto she did have she took 17 hours to decide on her number one?
laughs
what?! not only 17 hours, she had to consult the whole house
and she wouldn't have even done it if she knew Rylie
and she even said she regretted it
and he said yeah that is something that I'm now taking into consideration
even if she was to sit there, the person that won HOH is in the jury house. She's not gonna forget that you drove fucking crazy trying to figure out whether to use the veto.
as unbiased as I think she will be I don't thinks he would want Lauren to win
I don't thinks he's done game moves that earn her.
yeah I'm talking about ??
every decision you made you regretted after. You regretted Adrian wen thom. You whiffed twice and you sent Will home. Vinny as on th eblock. Everybody knew you were gonna use the veto on vinny but then you have to talk to everyone. I think what realyl ?? her was when she talked to Katherine and Rylie. And that's because after Rylie went up Katherine was like I told you. Me personally if my friend ?? there's no way I would alow someone to speak to me like that. At a veto ceremony
I don't remember her saying it to Lauren. I remember her saying I knew it
No she said I told you. I don't remember but someone said she said I told you
and then Rylie was staring through me. I Was like I didn't ?? It was Rachel
Morgan: ?? me and Mickey. I was like I'm ont he block. You think I want to go ?? next t oyou? Also me and Rachel weren't good at the time. I'm on her block. I didn't know who she was gonna renom. I thought shs was gonna put up Kelley. I was like oh you're gonna put up the blockbuster queen? One of these ?? is definitely going home. I was like maybe Mickey but I don't think so.
They continue talking
Morgan and Keanu continue talking outside
Morgan says if Lauren doesn't talk to her that'll be interesting because she feels like she should. If she's her, she would. She's probably not gonna get Lauren's vote anyway. Even being a Big Brother super fan
Keanu says he doesn't know if she votes for him either. With the peopl ethat are left no. Unless he's sitting nex tto AShley
Morgan says no if she's sitting nex tto Vinny shes' not getting Lauren's vote
Keanu says she doesn't think mrogan would need it
Morgan says she's gonna talk to Vinny to know her decision. For her she's gonna go to the source to know what could potentially happen to her game with the veto. She talked to Lauren when she was on the block. That's the only time she had to go to somebody
They reflect on past events in the season
Morgan says if Lauren doesn't talk to her that'll be interesting because she feels like she should. If she's her, she would. She's probably not gonna get Lauren's vote anyway. Even being a Big Brother super fan
Keanu says he doesn't know if she votes for him either. With the peopl ethat are left no. Unless he's sitting nex tto AShley
Morgan says no if she's sitting nex tto Vinny shes' not getting Lauren's vote
Keanu says she doesn't think mrogan would need it
Morgan says she's gonna talk to Vinny to know her decision. For her she's gonna go to the source to know what could potentially happen to her game with the veto. She talked to Lauren when she was on the block. That's the only time she had to go to somebody
They reflect on past events in the season
Morgan and Keanu come into the kitchen
Morgan: Hey Vince can I steal you for a sec?
Vince follows her into the wine room
so I have this really weird hidden talent. Where I can read lips really well and I know you just told Lauren here she comes
no I did not
mhm
No I did not. I said Jerry Jyler Jalerson. we were making fake names
Okay
I did not say that Morgan
regardless, I uh... (sigh)
I did not say that
I don't like leaving our conersations in uncomfrotable ??
I don't either
Morgan: So I'm really trying to liek leave when I know I'm getting to a place where I could potentialyl say things I don't mean or like make you feel something or make me feel something. So I don't want you to think that I left that conversation liek I was done with you or this is pointless. I still very much wanna hang out with you and discuss. I just stills truggle because the facts at the endof the day regarless of whether it's a nuber for you or not. She wanted me out of this house and she voted me out of this house. Everyone here has not voted you out before.I ahve three peole who voted me out. So it's things liek that hta'ts erally hard for me because there's a chance I wouldn't have been here. so it' slike when I try to talk to you even about her I feel immedately shut down adn rebuttled immediately instead of show me the positives of this. Like the unbiasedpositives of X happening. and it's been like that since week 3. You and Zach always wanted her ot be i jury. One of you untouchables and its really hard to go an entire seaosn knowing that is the case, especially at a point in the game lik ehtis wehre numbres, while it matters, it's gonna come down to winning powers of vetoes nad winning HOHs. So it's realyl difficult to have like my number one back up someone over nad over and over, despite the fact that she's lied hether you wanna see it or nt. It's really difficul tot me because i have never lied to you. I ahve told you everything. THere is not a single thing tha ti'm holding insode to... ther'es not a single thing. I have told you everything. So it's relaly relaly hard for me to know that... if I use this veto becuase it's better fo rmy game you are gonna feel some type of way and that's gonna change it. But if I don't use it I appease you adn it's very hard for me
Yeah. snd it's tough ebcause i feel the opposite. If i do that it' sbecause I appease you and Keanu
which si why ??
Vince: but if you don't use it it's better fo rmy game
which is hwy I know you don't want to do it. So I'm faced with a choice just like you are and I feel like it's unfair because I deserve to make the best choice for my game
of course. We all do. At the end of the day it's what we have to do
yeah but at the same time i feel liek th ebest choices for your game lean more toward being aligned with her than me
that's not true
btu that's how I feel
no
I mean I don't want to talk about this much longer cause I knwo you wanna eat and I need to eat
Nope I'm done eating. I'm ready to go up if you want
that's just kind of where i'm at. It's realyl hard. I don't hold grudges, I have forgiven you but I Don't forget. And it's really hard when I think about hwo I have never in this entire game ever done anything to maek you question me or anything. I know the Keanu thing that you ?? felt it at first, but I have never made you feel like we were never good or your life did not matter. I almost used my veto on yu
I know
because i Did not want you to go home, and i made sure I aksed aroudn to see wehre the votes were. And i knew I didn't have them and that's why I used it. If I guaranteed I had the votes I was gonna put htat veto around your neck
I know
so it's hard. I know soemtimes when I have htese conversatiosn with you it can seem like I'm stern and forward but hat's how I am. I norder to get down to a solution I don't beat around the bush cause it just wastes too much time. And I feel liek ti wastes energy becasue this is important ot both of us that when I get frustrated or overhwlemed it's because i genuinely feel like you don't wnat to see things from my perspective or others' perspective. So I don't want to say it' spointless but he doesn't want ?? He clearly doenst want Lauren to go up so he doesn't want to see or hear the benefits so
Vince: I want to hear them and I wanna hear you out. THer'es just something. At this point if we're looking at ourselve,s don't we all want to have numbers regardless of any scenario? And you want peole who are not going to put you up and intentionally target you or sway votes to get yyou out
Morgan: I"m just saying. There's a lot of. I hear you. I really do. But there are dangers of leaving nominations the same. If Ava is sitting nex tto Keanu, he will go home. And then Lauren is solely focusing on me. She can compete and you cannot. So I dn't know ... I did promise kelley I was gonna go in the jacuzzi with her so I'm gonna do that and then we can talk. It makes me really sad this is how our conversations go becaus eof one person. One person
I don't think we've ever disagreed on anything other than this topic
Lauren
unfortunately. Otherwise it's nothing but liek love and support. Like unconditionally
mhm. And this is hard for me because in the back of my head i feel liek it's two strieks already. It's the maze and it's this,. And I'm scared ??
scared of what? ??
that it's gonna come down to what i hop eit doesn't. that's all
It wouldn't
Lauren: but I don't know that beause it already has twice. And the hardest part is she wants me out of this house, and because I won veto today I shot up in the target list. So I'm gonna need proteciton, and her being here doens't protect me
Vince: I felt the same way when I won my third HOH. That I need all numbers that are gonna keep me at all costs. And I hate the one person that's guaranteed to keep me is the person targeting you
Lauren: It doesn't feel liek you hate it that much. Because to me the way it looks from an outside perspective, you're kind of like welp
Feeds switch
Morgan: Hey Vince can I steal you for a sec?
Vince follows her into the wine room
so I have this really weird hidden talent. Where I can read lips really well and I know you just told Lauren here she comes
no I did not
mhm
No I did not. I said Jerry Jyler Jalerson. we were making fake names
Okay
I did not say that Morgan
regardless, I uh... (sigh)
I did not say that
I don't like leaving our conersations in uncomfrotable ??
I don't either
Morgan: So I'm really trying to liek leave when I know I'm getting to a place where I could potentialyl say things I don't mean or like make you feel something or make me feel something. So I don't want you to think that I left that conversation liek I was done with you or this is pointless. I still very much wanna hang out with you and discuss. I just stills truggle because the facts at the endof the day regarless of whether it's a nuber for you or not. She wanted me out of this house and she voted me out of this house. Everyone here has not voted you out before.I ahve three peole who voted me out. So it's things liek that hta'ts erally hard for me because there's a chance I wouldn't have been here. so it' slike when I try to talk to you even about her I feel immedately shut down adn rebuttled immediately instead of show me the positives of this. Like the unbiasedpositives of X happening. and it's been like that since week 3. You and Zach always wanted her ot be i jury. One of you untouchables and its really hard to go an entire seaosn knowing that is the case, especially at a point in the game lik ehtis wehre numbres, while it matters, it's gonna come down to winning powers of vetoes nad winning HOHs. So it's realyl difficult to have like my number one back up someone over nad over and over, despite the fact that she's lied hether you wanna see it or nt. It's really difficul tot me because i have never lied to you. I ahve told you everything. THere is not a single thing tha ti'm holding insode to... ther'es not a single thing. I have told you everything. So it's relaly relaly hard for me to know that... if I use this veto becuase it's better fo rmy game you are gonna feel some type of way and that's gonna change it. But if I don't use it I appease you adn it's very hard for me
Yeah. snd it's tough ebcause i feel the opposite. If i do that it' sbecause I appease you and Keanu
which si why ??
Vince: but if you don't use it it's better fo rmy game
which is hwy I know you don't want to do it. So I'm faced with a choice just like you are and I feel like it's unfair because I deserve to make the best choice for my game
of course. We all do. At the end of the day it's what we have to do
yeah but at the same time i feel liek th ebest choices for your game lean more toward being aligned with her than me
that's not true
btu that's how I feel
no
I mean I don't want to talk about this much longer cause I knwo you wanna eat and I need to eat
Nope I'm done eating. I'm ready to go up if you want
that's just kind of where i'm at. It's realyl hard. I don't hold grudges, I have forgiven you but I Don't forget. And it's really hard when I think about hwo I have never in this entire game ever done anything to maek you question me or anything. I know the Keanu thing that you ?? felt it at first, but I have never made you feel like we were never good or your life did not matter. I almost used my veto on yu
I know
because i Did not want you to go home, and i made sure I aksed aroudn to see wehre the votes were. And i knew I didn't have them and that's why I used it. If I guaranteed I had the votes I was gonna put htat veto around your neck
I know
so it's hard. I know soemtimes when I have htese conversatiosn with you it can seem like I'm stern and forward but hat's how I am. I norder to get down to a solution I don't beat around the bush cause it just wastes too much time. And I feel liek ti wastes energy becasue this is important ot both of us that when I get frustrated or overhwlemed it's because i genuinely feel like you don't wnat to see things from my perspective or others' perspective. So I don't want to say it' spointless but he doesn't want ?? He clearly doenst want Lauren to go up so he doesn't want to see or hear the benefits so
Vince: I want to hear them and I wanna hear you out. THer'es just something. At this point if we're looking at ourselve,s don't we all want to have numbers regardless of any scenario? And you want peole who are not going to put you up and intentionally target you or sway votes to get yyou out
Morgan: I"m just saying. There's a lot of. I hear you. I really do. But there are dangers of leaving nominations the same. If Ava is sitting nex tto Keanu, he will go home. And then Lauren is solely focusing on me. She can compete and you cannot. So I dn't know ... I did promise kelley I was gonna go in the jacuzzi with her so I'm gonna do that and then we can talk. It makes me really sad this is how our conversations go becaus eof one person. One person
I don't think we've ever disagreed on anything other than this topic
Lauren
unfortunately. Otherwise it's nothing but liek love and support. Like unconditionally
mhm. And this is hard for me because in the back of my head i feel liek it's two strieks already. It's the maze and it's this,. And I'm scared ??
scared of what? ??
that it's gonna come down to what i hop eit doesn't. that's all
It wouldn't
Lauren: but I don't know that beause it already has twice. And the hardest part is she wants me out of this house, and because I won veto today I shot up in the target list. So I'm gonna need proteciton, and her being here doens't protect me
Vince: I felt the same way when I won my third HOH. That I need all numbers that are gonna keep me at all costs. And I hate the one person that's guaranteed to keep me is the person targeting you
Lauren: It doesn't feel liek you hate it that much. Because to me the way it looks from an outside perspective, you're kind of like welp
Feeds switch
Ashley joins Morgan and Vince in the wine room
Morgan: We don't have the conversation yet but I know moving fotward we're just trying to figure out how we can be bets protected and what that looks like
Vince: it's hard to get the perfect result for all three of us. We're closer with different people
Morgan: he's worried baout Ava
Vince: Ava puts me up, evicts me every time. She could not care less
Morgan: yeah. Or Kelley
Vince: It was already admitted that Kelley, Lauren, adn Ava are all
Ashley: their bridge is Lauren. Ava does not really care about Kelley
Morgan: But AVa's gonna take the cover she has with Kelley cause WIll left. If Will stayed she wouldn't have attached with Kelley. She would've dealt with Kelley cause it's a numbere for her. The only reason she didn't renom her, the reason I was her main renom was because she told Kelley I was her renom and Ava didn't want to go back on her word
Vince: so she was probably content with my nominations
Ashley: She is. She was like I Feel happy because ?? I feel kinda good. She did ask me if she would use it on Keanu and I was like no
Vince: I know people started thinking that because he picked you
They continue talking
Morgan says if Kelley wins Blockbuster, and it's Keanu vs Ava. Who goes home? Keanu goes
Vince says what if they keep Keanu, and he'll go after Lauren
Morgan says Ava's not going to win comps. She would never put up Ashley. She'd put up Kelley, Keanu, Vince, and they'd have the votes
Ashley says her ideal person to go would be Kelley or LAuren. Lauren is the one blocking connections. If Lauren's out, Keanu goes to him, Kelley goes to Mrogan. Ava for sure
Morgan says is gonna be attached to Ashley ... Keanu is never gonna touch Vince
Vince says he can't trust that
Ashley says she's not sure about that
Morgan says Keanu has more options before he touches Vince. He wants other people out. Lauren specifically and then he'll come after Vince. But also he knwos that he and Morgna are each others' shields right now. So he's not gonna want to take her out right now
Vince: so if Lauren goes and Morgan is his shield, who does he get out?
Morgan says people like Ava
AShley says she thinks his block is Ava, Kelley, her, with Morgan as the renom. But there's only two of them
Morgan says he told her outside those were his exact noms
Vinc says take things with a grain fo salt, just beause he speaks so passionately. He's had a million real conversations with Keanu and then he changes
,Morgan ssays how he initially feels is what he says. Here's the thing Vince, if he really thinks VInce is locked at second, and he doesn't think Vince gcould beat Morgan, he's gonna come after Morgan
Vince says he would upt all of them up together
Morgan says that's if she doesn't win Blockbuster they can't afford to have Keanu go home
Vince says he wants to make sure whoever's in this house, ?? different people
Morgan says Ava would not ??
Vince says and Lauren would not do that. He wouldn't go up
AShley syas that's true
Morgan says if Ava is up there, it's basically Kelley Keanu
Ashley says she thinks so too
Vince says okay?
Morgan says if Kelley wins they can't afford to have Keanu go home. Ava leaving is bad for AShley's game and her game
Vince says it's good for his game
Morgan says great for him. She'sjust being real. They're having a real conversation
Vince says that's why it's hard. How do they get on th same page
Ashley says she doens't think Ava going is best for him. She'sleast likely to win HOH. The hOH she won was thrown. She's never won HOH. Th eonly comp she'd give her is the maniacal maze. Scatter baord. Versus Kelley, yeah Kelley's gotta go. But now that's Morgan, Keanu. She can see why Lauren is good for his game but she also feels LAuren is gonna be eliminated in the next. Unless she wins
Vince says good. Then he doesn't look like an idiot. She's not gonna win everything
Ashley says she scared her today
Vince says she said she guessed on the lsat one
Morgan goes over Lauren's comp resume
Morgan: We don't have the conversation yet but I know moving fotward we're just trying to figure out how we can be bets protected and what that looks like
Vince: it's hard to get the perfect result for all three of us. We're closer with different people
Morgan: he's worried baout Ava
Vince: Ava puts me up, evicts me every time. She could not care less
Morgan: yeah. Or Kelley
Vince: It was already admitted that Kelley, Lauren, adn Ava are all
Ashley: their bridge is Lauren. Ava does not really care about Kelley
Morgan: But AVa's gonna take the cover she has with Kelley cause WIll left. If Will stayed she wouldn't have attached with Kelley. She would've dealt with Kelley cause it's a numbere for her. The only reason she didn't renom her, the reason I was her main renom was because she told Kelley I was her renom and Ava didn't want to go back on her word
Vince: so she was probably content with my nominations
Ashley: She is. She was like I Feel happy because ?? I feel kinda good. She did ask me if she would use it on Keanu and I was like no
Vince: I know people started thinking that because he picked you
They continue talking
Morgan says if Kelley wins Blockbuster, and it's Keanu vs Ava. Who goes home? Keanu goes
Vince says what if they keep Keanu, and he'll go after Lauren
Morgan says Ava's not going to win comps. She would never put up Ashley. She'd put up Kelley, Keanu, Vince, and they'd have the votes
Ashley says her ideal person to go would be Kelley or LAuren. Lauren is the one blocking connections. If Lauren's out, Keanu goes to him, Kelley goes to Mrogan. Ava for sure
Morgan says is gonna be attached to Ashley ... Keanu is never gonna touch Vince
Vince says he can't trust that
Ashley says she's not sure about that
Morgan says Keanu has more options before he touches Vince. He wants other people out. Lauren specifically and then he'll come after Vince. But also he knwos that he and Morgna are each others' shields right now. So he's not gonna want to take her out right now
Vince: so if Lauren goes and Morgan is his shield, who does he get out?
Morgan says people like Ava
AShley says she thinks his block is Ava, Kelley, her, with Morgan as the renom. But there's only two of them
Morgan says he told her outside those were his exact noms
Vinc says take things with a grain fo salt, just beause he speaks so passionately. He's had a million real conversations with Keanu and then he changes
,Morgan ssays how he initially feels is what he says. Here's the thing Vince, if he really thinks VInce is locked at second, and he doesn't think Vince gcould beat Morgan, he's gonna come after Morgan
Vince says he would upt all of them up together
Morgan says that's if she doesn't win Blockbuster they can't afford to have Keanu go home
Vince says he wants to make sure whoever's in this house, ?? different people
Morgan says Ava would not ??
Vince says and Lauren would not do that. He wouldn't go up
AShley syas that's true
Morgan says if Ava is up there, it's basically Kelley Keanu
Ashley says she thinks so too
Vince says okay?
Morgan says if Kelley wins they can't afford to have Keanu go home. Ava leaving is bad for AShley's game and her game
Vince says it's good for his game
Morgan says great for him. She'sjust being real. They're having a real conversation
Vince says that's why it's hard. How do they get on th same page
Ashley says she doens't think Ava going is best for him. She'sleast likely to win HOH. The hOH she won was thrown. She's never won HOH. Th eonly comp she'd give her is the maniacal maze. Scatter baord. Versus Kelley, yeah Kelley's gotta go. But now that's Morgan, Keanu. She can see why Lauren is good for his game but she also feels LAuren is gonna be eliminated in the next. Unless she wins
Vince says good. Then he doesn't look like an idiot. She's not gonna win everything
Ashley says she scared her today
Vince says she said she guessed on the lsat one
Morgan goes over Lauren's comp resume
Lauren and Ava talk in the bathroom
Ava: she uses it, she's gonna use it on me, and they're gonna put you up. That is so. This is
Lauren: I don't think VInny would but I don't know for sure
Ava: If he does
Lauren: I know. I know
Ava: and then I'm safe beause MOrgan uses the veto on me I'm gonna pop off so hard. ?? compliment Morgan. I'm gonna be like your loyalty to Vinny in this game I admire greatly. You're woried about Keanu not respecting your game. You should worry about me not respecting your game, caus ei Don't
Lauren: I don't think I'm gonna go up (knock on wood) So just hold the popping off for now
Ava: I'm holding it. It's held
Lauren: It's a situation taht could happen. I'm praying that Kelley wins blockbuster. THat Keanu goes home this week. Or you win Blockbuster. Me or you or me or Kelley vote for Kenau to go. And if AShley and Morgan ?? out over Keanu's name and only Vinny votes ?? But I don't know. I have no idea
Ava: This is the stupidest shit ever. ANd you should be the one person who's safe in this house
Lauren: I know
Ava: and if she uses the power of veto
Feeds switch
Ava: she uses it, she's gonna use it on me, and they're gonna put you up. That is so. This is
Lauren: I don't think VInny would but I don't know for sure
Ava: If he does
Lauren: I know. I know
Ava: and then I'm safe beause MOrgan uses the veto on me I'm gonna pop off so hard. ?? compliment Morgan. I'm gonna be like your loyalty to Vinny in this game I admire greatly. You're woried about Keanu not respecting your game. You should worry about me not respecting your game, caus ei Don't
Lauren: I don't think I'm gonna go up (knock on wood) So just hold the popping off for now
Ava: I'm holding it. It's held
Lauren: It's a situation taht could happen. I'm praying that Kelley wins blockbuster. THat Keanu goes home this week. Or you win Blockbuster. Me or you or me or Kelley vote for Kenau to go. And if AShley and Morgan ?? out over Keanu's name and only Vinny votes ?? But I don't know. I have no idea
Ava: This is the stupidest shit ever. ANd you should be the one person who's safe in this house
Lauren: I know
Ava: and if she uses the power of veto
Feeds switch
we need as many pepole as we can who would keep us safe and not put us on the block. You have Ava who would never
I don't know about a renom
Lauren is someone who woul dnever put me up, even if she put you two up. Never cast a vote to evict me. Ava cast a vote to evict me. Kelley cast a vote to evict me. Keanu I don't trust him
?? Keanu would vote to keep you
that's one scenario. hat if eh wants to take you to the end because he thinks he can beat you. Ava to the end becasue he thinks he can beat her. What if he wants to take Kelley
he's already starting to pitch her
he wants to go to the end with her
?? my ideal person to go
that's hwy I'm like maybe she wins, but if it only take sone or two votes to stay it doesn't matter who gives a fuck who targets who. As long as you're here, I'm here, Morgan's here. If we have Keanu on our side. It does not matter.
For whateer reason she really wants Keanu to stay and Kelley wins th eblockbuster. If Keanu goes home, I've been debating is that that bad?
Vince: It would look better on my resume if Keanu went home
Feeds switch
I don't know about a renom
Lauren is someone who woul dnever put me up, even if she put you two up. Never cast a vote to evict me. Ava cast a vote to evict me. Kelley cast a vote to evict me. Keanu I don't trust him
?? Keanu would vote to keep you
that's one scenario. hat if eh wants to take you to the end because he thinks he can beat you. Ava to the end becasue he thinks he can beat her. What if he wants to take Kelley
he's already starting to pitch her
he wants to go to the end with her
?? my ideal person to go
that's hwy I'm like maybe she wins, but if it only take sone or two votes to stay it doesn't matter who gives a fuck who targets who. As long as you're here, I'm here, Morgan's here. If we have Keanu on our side. It does not matter.
For whateer reason she really wants Keanu to stay and Kelley wins th eblockbuster. If Keanu goes home, I've been debating is that that bad?
Vince: It would look better on my resume if Keanu went home
Feeds switch
Morgan talks with Ava
I don't know exactly what I"m doing yet but if I were to use the veto you'd be the only person I'd use it on
Oh. Well awesome
I don't know yet. Since Keanu picked me today I know the perception is we're working together
There's only so much. It's not like if he picked AShley I'd think. I mean if you want to use it on me I'm not gonna tell you no
I"m still weighing it. I know you won't go home. But I also don't want to risk if people would. If I were to use it on anybody, I'm nto using it on Kelley or Keanu. So keep that betwee me adn you
Everything you've said to me has been a vault. But again if you want to use the veto on me I'm not gonna tell you no. However, if you want to keep noms the same I'm also not holding that against you either. vINNY Iis your closest ally and your loyalty to him is something I respect as a player
thank you
?? told me when we were on the hamomck, I was talking about Will, you were like the same way you would never vote WIll out that' sth esame way I am with Vinny. So I understand if he's like don't use the veot, but if that's somethign you want to do for your resume, and for your game, well. I'm not gonna say no
I told you things would shake up
if the power of veto was used on me, technically I Wasn't wrong. THat would make my speech a little less embarrassing. But again, then it would be between LAuren adn Ashley on who goes up. I don't want to se eAshley
That's also why I'm... AShley liek you two are the best, as far as women in the house. I don't want eithe rof you guys to ever go home
thank you Mrogan
just beasue I'm not as close to Kelley and Lauren as you two. And I also know our games have kind of lik ebeen together throughout the season
we've sort of had
we've had Will
yes. I don't want to see ?? go up. I know that what's his face
Keanu?
no o
Vinny
Yeah. I know Vinn is way closer to Lauren than Ashley. So I don't know what that looks lik.e EVen if Ashley was to go up, the chick has votes to stay. Let's be so fuckign real
I know he's close with Lauren but we're also getting to the end where big moves have to be made
okay
I don't know if he'd ever do that
IN my personal opinion is that the move I Would make? I don't know. Just beasue she kept him safe last wek I don't know. However, comma, if the power of veto is used on me, well
ahve a seat
let me sit on this couch over here. So I don't know. It really edepends on what you want to do for your game. I'm not gonan tell you you need to use the power of veto on me. I assuemd when you won the noms were gonna stay the same, but if you wanna use it on me I'm not
I want you and Ashley in this game. Obviously I'm not telling him. If I take hte veto, cause we're talking about it tonight. But if I use the veto on AVa, you have to promise you won't put up Ashley, that implies he'd put up Lauren
that would have ot be a cchoice and the only thign I have to say is you two, just becasue you guys are close allies nad assumedly you guys have a strong respect and game relationship and um... the only thing I"ll say if you use it on me I'm not gonna say no. Woul dlove hta. Obviously. Woul dlove ot make it to top 6 (laugh). Obviously I don't want AShley in any sort of danger
yeah
That's just kidn of wehre I stand with it. That's hwy I Wasn't gonna push you to use it on me.
if I was gonna use it at all, you were my only option
that's good to know
when I saw the noms, I knew if I won the veto today, you were the only person I was gonna sue it on
thank you for lettin gme know. I really appreciate that. And if that's what you want to do, I would love that. Oh, yeah, Morgan, let's fucking go
Let's fucking go?
I'm like well, I may nothave won it but if it gets used on me is it the same thing? I would be extemely grateful. Obviously for me actions go a long way. If I was to be an HOH things of that nature. But that's your prerogative. if you think I'm best for your game and use the power of veto on me. But if you talk to VInny and there's a different decisoin made i'm gonna understand.
While me and Vinny are working together I'm still playin gmy own game
I respect the fuck out of that
you adn Ashley are best for me. I know LAauren is best for me. Lauren put me on th eblock so it's no secret that ?? I was her initial target. I know she put up Keanu beause she wasn't gonna put up Vinny. Will going home, that obviously doesn't make me feel good. Will wa sgood for mine yours and Ashley. I was devastated ?? had the votes between ?? Ashley and you. I would only use the veto if Ashley wouldnt' be in danger. I don't want you to think ?? I want both of you to stya. I want both of you here
Ava: Of course, absoluytely. NO that's why I even, I wa slike veen if I won, there was a part that was like I Don't want Ashley ot go up
right, btugirl you were gonna take yourself down if youw on that veto
don't play with it. NOt wasn't gonnado it, felt very bad
I know you are close iwth Lauren and ??
We have a great personal relationship. I really liek the chick
NO she's so sweet. I think everyone loves her on a personal level for sure
But I undesrtand why you don't care if she goes up on the block for your personal game
But I alo know Vinny is close iwth her so I'm not being like VInny put her up put her up. I knwo she's close iwth him. But would i be said if he put her on th eblock? No
Potato potahto. I would just find it weird if Vinny put her on the block. I think that would be random. Cause I Don't know hat's going on in the house. Cause I'm sleeping in bed. I'd feel like I msised an episode. But again if that's what ahppens if the power of eto is used on me and his decision is his decision. I'm never gonna turn down the opportunity
when I wen toutside to celerbate myself, obviously Keanu came right after. I'm liek I'm sure everyone is thinking like
I was just like... alright
I'm like he picks me and he's first to come talk to me. I can only imagine if I was other people
the same thing happened ot mea t the renom ceremony. He pulls me upstairs. It was just beause he ?? nominate me. I Was like ?? no after he just kept me safe this week? And then I said fuck this house. THat's the part nobody sees until October. But yeah whatever you decide to do I respect. If you use the veto on me that is somethign I aknowledge moving forwardin the game as a, a player. But I'm nto gonna force it or try to to do any shady dealings about it.
OH no for sure. I wasn't trying
Oh no, I'm just letting you know. And I woul d personally love it. But it's up to you
I just wanted you to know cause I know what perception could look like. THat you were the only person I was consdiering. If I was gonna use the veto it would only be on Ava. No one could convince a day in their life to use it on Kelley or Keanu. It's no offense to them
They are ?? comp beasts
but I've also been aligned with you more than with them
let's call a spade a spade. I like Kelley but ?? Ashley ?? come on. But yeah, anyways, that is what it is. You talk to Vinny, thank you for coming to me and talkign to me. The way I see the veto, you won it, it's your choice.I felt the same way with KAtherine. Would I prefer oh my dea rlord that she ?? yes. But it's your veto. Whatever ?? Vinny can't say anything about it. I can't say anything about it. Keanu can't. It's your veto. If they want to say anything about it they should've juggled the balls. But thank you for even considering using it on me. I would be extremely grateful but it's not a enecessity and it won't make me view you as less of an ally if you decide not to
Morgan: I just wanted to squash any presumptions
Ava: squashed
Morgan: cause the only person like I said owuld've been you. So if I use it, then you know it's going to you. If I don't
Okay. Yay. If that's the case. Yay. But if not then, yolo
They do high fives
Morgan: So yeah taht's all. We still have a couple days to figure it out
Ava: figure it out. D o what you're gonna do
Morgan: it's just weird having it and not being on the block. Cause usually i"m like welp I'm gonna take myself of and
Ava: if you're gonna have it might as well. ... and it's like double down
They leave together
I don't know exactly what I"m doing yet but if I were to use the veto you'd be the only person I'd use it on
Oh. Well awesome
I don't know yet. Since Keanu picked me today I know the perception is we're working together
There's only so much. It's not like if he picked AShley I'd think. I mean if you want to use it on me I'm not gonna tell you no
I"m still weighing it. I know you won't go home. But I also don't want to risk if people would. If I were to use it on anybody, I'm nto using it on Kelley or Keanu. So keep that betwee me adn you
Everything you've said to me has been a vault. But again if you want to use the veto on me I'm not gonna tell you no. However, if you want to keep noms the same I'm also not holding that against you either. vINNY Iis your closest ally and your loyalty to him is something I respect as a player
thank you
?? told me when we were on the hamomck, I was talking about Will, you were like the same way you would never vote WIll out that' sth esame way I am with Vinny. So I understand if he's like don't use the veot, but if that's somethign you want to do for your resume, and for your game, well. I'm not gonna say no
I told you things would shake up
if the power of veto was used on me, technically I Wasn't wrong. THat would make my speech a little less embarrassing. But again, then it would be between LAuren adn Ashley on who goes up. I don't want to se eAshley
That's also why I'm... AShley liek you two are the best, as far as women in the house. I don't want eithe rof you guys to ever go home
thank you Mrogan
just beasue I'm not as close to Kelley and Lauren as you two. And I also know our games have kind of lik ebeen together throughout the season
we've sort of had
we've had Will
yes. I don't want to see ?? go up. I know that what's his face
Keanu?
no o
Vinny
Yeah. I know Vinn is way closer to Lauren than Ashley. So I don't know what that looks lik.e EVen if Ashley was to go up, the chick has votes to stay. Let's be so fuckign real
I know he's close with Lauren but we're also getting to the end where big moves have to be made
okay
I don't know if he'd ever do that
IN my personal opinion is that the move I Would make? I don't know. Just beasue she kept him safe last wek I don't know. However, comma, if the power of veto is used on me, well
ahve a seat
let me sit on this couch over here. So I don't know. It really edepends on what you want to do for your game. I'm not gonan tell you you need to use the power of veto on me. I assuemd when you won the noms were gonna stay the same, but if you wanna use it on me I'm not
I want you and Ashley in this game. Obviously I'm not telling him. If I take hte veto, cause we're talking about it tonight. But if I use the veto on AVa, you have to promise you won't put up Ashley, that implies he'd put up Lauren
that would have ot be a cchoice and the only thign I have to say is you two, just becasue you guys are close allies nad assumedly you guys have a strong respect and game relationship and um... the only thing I"ll say if you use it on me I'm not gonna say no. Woul dlove hta. Obviously. Woul dlove ot make it to top 6 (laugh). Obviously I don't want AShley in any sort of danger
yeah
That's just kidn of wehre I stand with it. That's hwy I Wasn't gonna push you to use it on me.
if I was gonna use it at all, you were my only option
that's good to know
when I saw the noms, I knew if I won the veto today, you were the only person I was gonna sue it on
thank you for lettin gme know. I really appreciate that. And if that's what you want to do, I would love that. Oh, yeah, Morgan, let's fucking go
Let's fucking go?
I'm like well, I may nothave won it but if it gets used on me is it the same thing? I would be extemely grateful. Obviously for me actions go a long way. If I was to be an HOH things of that nature. But that's your prerogative. if you think I'm best for your game and use the power of veto on me. But if you talk to VInny and there's a different decisoin made i'm gonna understand.
While me and Vinny are working together I'm still playin gmy own game
I respect the fuck out of that
you adn Ashley are best for me. I know LAauren is best for me. Lauren put me on th eblock so it's no secret that ?? I was her initial target. I know she put up Keanu beause she wasn't gonna put up Vinny. Will going home, that obviously doesn't make me feel good. Will wa sgood for mine yours and Ashley. I was devastated ?? had the votes between ?? Ashley and you. I would only use the veto if Ashley wouldnt' be in danger. I don't want you to think ?? I want both of you to stya. I want both of you here
Ava: Of course, absoluytely. NO that's why I even, I wa slike veen if I won, there was a part that was like I Don't want Ashley ot go up
right, btugirl you were gonna take yourself down if youw on that veto
don't play with it. NOt wasn't gonnado it, felt very bad
I know you are close iwth Lauren and ??
We have a great personal relationship. I really liek the chick
NO she's so sweet. I think everyone loves her on a personal level for sure
But I undesrtand why you don't care if she goes up on the block for your personal game
But I alo know Vinny is close iwth her so I'm not being like VInny put her up put her up. I knwo she's close iwth him. But would i be said if he put her on th eblock? No
Potato potahto. I would just find it weird if Vinny put her on the block. I think that would be random. Cause I Don't know hat's going on in the house. Cause I'm sleeping in bed. I'd feel like I msised an episode. But again if that's what ahppens if the power of eto is used on me and his decision is his decision. I'm never gonna turn down the opportunity
when I wen toutside to celerbate myself, obviously Keanu came right after. I'm liek I'm sure everyone is thinking like
I was just like... alright
I'm like he picks me and he's first to come talk to me. I can only imagine if I was other people
the same thing happened ot mea t the renom ceremony. He pulls me upstairs. It was just beause he ?? nominate me. I Was like ?? no after he just kept me safe this week? And then I said fuck this house. THat's the part nobody sees until October. But yeah whatever you decide to do I respect. If you use the veto on me that is somethign I aknowledge moving forwardin the game as a, a player. But I'm nto gonna force it or try to to do any shady dealings about it.
OH no for sure. I wasn't trying
Oh no, I'm just letting you know. And I woul d personally love it. But it's up to you
I just wanted you to know cause I know what perception could look like. THat you were the only person I was consdiering. If I was gonna use the veto it would only be on Ava. No one could convince a day in their life to use it on Kelley or Keanu. It's no offense to them
They are ?? comp beasts
but I've also been aligned with you more than with them
let's call a spade a spade. I like Kelley but ?? Ashley ?? come on. But yeah, anyways, that is what it is. You talk to Vinny, thank you for coming to me and talkign to me. The way I see the veto, you won it, it's your choice.I felt the same way with KAtherine. Would I prefer oh my dea rlord that she ?? yes. But it's your veto. Whatever ?? Vinny can't say anything about it. I can't say anything about it. Keanu can't. It's your veto. If they want to say anything about it they should've juggled the balls. But thank you for even considering using it on me. I would be extremely grateful but it's not a enecessity and it won't make me view you as less of an ally if you decide not to
Morgan: I just wanted to squash any presumptions
Ava: squashed
Morgan: cause the only person like I said owuld've been you. So if I use it, then you know it's going to you. If I don't
Okay. Yay. If that's the case. Yay. But if not then, yolo
They do high fives
Morgan: So yeah taht's all. We still have a couple days to figure it out
Ava: figure it out. D o what you're gonna do
Morgan: it's just weird having it and not being on the block. Cause usually i"m like welp I'm gonna take myself of and
Ava: if you're gonna have it might as well. ... and it's like double down
They leave together
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